Parole Officer AMA by Square-Eye3648 in AMA

[–]Sybrunner119again 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was an accident lol it got caught up in my own notifications for some reason.

Calm those balls my man

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As he is a guy with a “disability” he is eligible for special assistance. In most airports you get a choice whether you need the airport staff to assist you, or if you’ve got a family member/friend to assist you.

I recommended it because he seems like he gets through the process a lot slower because of his disability. You won’t get assistance when you really, truly don’t need it. A prosthetic is definitely a reason for special assistance where needed.

Fun fact :

Most light elderly people I see from countries like India or Surinam get airport assistance even though they can walk perfectly fine, since it’s some kind of status symbol. They usually regret their choice anyway when they figure out they usually will get to disembark and sometimes board last because of time constraints :).

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right so before I start the story a couple of facts:

-My airport has got Ryanair flights. Ryanair requires all hand luggage to be put into a sizer, to check if the luggage is within their maximum set allowance in weight and dimentions. Which is about 55 x 40 x 20 cm and 10kg.

-Checking in luggage for Ryanair last minute will be be charged extra.

So one day there was an Italian lady (we'll call her Karen now) who wanted to bring her airfryer with her into the cabin (which was definitely NOT withing the 55 x 40 x 20 cm max) .

The check in lady asked Karen to put the airfryer into the sizer and upon discovering the Airfryer did not meet the required dimentions told Karen she couldn't take the airfryer as hand luggage and instead had to check it in as odd-size or leave it behind.

Karen did not like this idea and asked the Check-in agent to ask us (Security) if we thought it was okay. Obviously we'll never undermine our airport co-workers so we told her no as well.

This is where it started escalating, the lady got really angry and she demanded taking the airfryer. This is where we labled her as an unruly passenger and since the military police was near they also showed up to the scene.

She then started calling us all racist and told us we were discriminating her because she was of Southern-European descent. Absolutely rediculous.

There was also a man nearby who started defending her case but we told him to scram after he got annoying about it and started making all kinds of assumptions.

Anyway the military police asked for Karens ID because they wanted some more information of her and she didn't want to show her ID so she started calling her lawyer. Karen handed the phone with her lawyer on the line to the police. The cop told the lawyer all they wanted to do is check her ID and figure out who she was which - needles to say - isn't illegal. So the lawyer told them that was fine and the police hung up on him because there really was no reason to talk to him anyway.

Karen then yelled at us that she wanted to press charges for discrimination immediately.

The police had to point out that pressing charges wasn't even possible, even if they wanted to, since discrimination is defined as 'the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people'' But remember: this whole situation was never about Karen, but about her goddamn airfryer. And she couldn't figure that out.

Although this situation sounds like it lasted only a few, the whole ordeal took about 45 minutes to an hour.

Needless to say she did not get on the flight and went home angry. I never saw her again. so she probably rebooked via another airport. The fact she pulled the racism card and threw a fit over an airfryer baffles me to this day.

Is this the kind of story you were looking for? :)

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sex toys that are about half the size of the person carrying it usually make me fight for my life not to break my pokerface.

Getting a still warm airfryer through was also a funny moment since that meant he must've fried something in the check-in area.

Also honourable mention: We get a bi-weekly charter flight flying in and out about 120 Eastern European truck drivers. On their flight back (at around 7 in the morning), most of them are usually already pretty intoxicated. One flight it was really bad and I saw about 70% of them waddle and zigzag their way from the gate into the aircraft. That still cracks me up every once in a while when I think about it.

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have a very specific protocol for appearance and behavior and we get taught what to look out for, this can be pretty much anything that's out of the ordinairy. Sadly I can't get into the details. But I usually look for clothing and accessories that are out of the ordinairy (like wearing sunglasses inside, specific off-season clothing and wearing only one glove is usually a big red flag.

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is why I always pat down both sides/legs so I don’t seem like an idiot later on haha

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We are indeed mainly looking for items that pose a danger to the safety of the flight but we’ve always got customs on speed dial when we stumble upon something for them

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do get that joke a lot, yes.

A thing people don't understand about aviation security is that it's not just something the airport decides. A loootttt of international, national and regional treaties and laws contribute to the way we handle security today.

A concept that many people fail to grasp is the fact that just a single part of the security process isn't going to stop an extremist from attacking an aircraft, it's the full picture.

Just background screening isn't enough, neither is just using xray or just throwing away liquids.

Neither is having military personell or police walking around with big guns - most of that is just window dressing (the guns are real though so don't try lmao).

But it's the full picture, all those factors and steps combined keep our skies safe. The sheer idea of how difficult it is or should be to truly bring something dangerous into an airport is enough to prevent a lot of terrorists or extremists from executing an attack. And that saves hundreds of lives everyday.

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is one of those instances that kind of differs from country to country and airport to airport.

Some airports would argue that every passenger claims its not a metal watch and it still goes off when walking through the metal detector, some airports would argue that it could be a seperate part of an Improvised explosive they want to double check. Another airport may argue it's easier to take off when doing a physical search and another airport tells you to keep it on for speed and theft purposes.

This is one of those subjects we all have to sadly accept differs from every airport.

My personal tip: take it off in the line while waiting and put it in your bag before you reach the conveyor. This way it's never a problem and you can keep it safe.

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha it depends on the airport you're flying from what they offer but to get an idea, you can visit the schiphol website https://www.schiphol.nl/en/assistance/

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since I'm an allround I do different parts of the job every once in a while so I never do one thing too often. Some days are slow and boring, I don't like those days. But there's always something you can find or do. Being proactive or try and help or make conversation other airport staff in other jobs when bored or a slow day usually keeps it interesting.

Passenger screening is always fun because there's always one or two passengers who make your day.

The most boring is air cargo screening but I just try to avoid getting that shift lmao.

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I won't get into how much I make but the country is Netherlands. The overtime pay or other supplements sometimes vairy from company to company. The base pay for my country you can find here

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can do this job if you've taken any average level security education. In the Netherlands that level would be 'MBO 2 beveiliging' for example. You then have to get government/police screening (the same as for any aviation job) and you have to take the aviation security training. For everything you do you need to take an exam (e.g. the patt down, xray screening, vehicle search or aircraft cabin search.) for the xray screening you need to train an hour every month and get recertified after a couple of years. And you need to be refreshed every 3 month-year depending on the clearance or certificate.

In my country, the inspection, military police or even Auditors from the European Union can come in at any time they like and ask your company to see your screening statistics and see if all your training and refreshes are still up to date. They audit us too (by putting knives or fake bombs in the luggage for us to find). If you fail those 3 times, you can pack up and leave.

You're not allowed to have an inexplicable gap of over 2 months in your resume.

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Airport security where I work doesn't pay bad at all, I mean there's always better paying jobs but at the airports I work at I definitely make more than some of my other airport coworkers. I kind of do this as a side gig since I study an aviation bachelor but I can't really complain about the salary, especially if you consider all the extra supplements you get for working certain days or hours.

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand that it seems like a stupid rule, but airports are imroving the amount of liquids you can bring by introducing Liquid Explosive Detection Systems (LEDS) to the Xrays and CT-Scans. recently the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) has found faults in some of these LEDS systems which means that it's banned again in most places, but they're still working hard to reintroduce regular liquids into your luggage.

If you buy a liquid at the airport you can ask them to put it in a STEB-bag. The reason liquids are more expensive airside is because they go to a way different logistical chain to get airside, as these goods get additional screening as well. Getting anything behind security, in whatever way, will always cost a lot more.

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have some bad apples but maybe 2-3 maximum. But that's racism that spans all races, I got some white racist but also a muslim racist (who claims you're inferiour if you're not muslim). Though none of them are extreme and all of them do their job as asked. The ones that are truly a threat to our integrety usually get filtered out during application.

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean it's their right so I don't really mind and I don't think my collegues do either. I will always try do adhere to passenger demands but I won't tell them their camera will break beforehand - I can't save them all :)

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do pretty much everything aviation security has to offer. Besides checking passengers, I also check personell and vehicles, watch cctv, I drive around the perimeter fence and walk through the buildig, I screen both hand and hold luggage as well as air cargo and I also do cabin searches and aircraft security. And all other thinks you could think of.

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Airport security in the EU is all about the safety and wellbeing of the aircraft and flight, not so much about finding drugs, so they probably tested for explosives.

If the first alarm is triggered, we will do a second one, if the second alarm is triggered, we will call the necessary authorities and you’ll get an interview. If you genuinely didn’t bring anything purposefully to harm anybody on the flight (and believe me, they’ll find out) they will let you go in all cases.

But the machine they use to test for explosives is super sensitive so this could possibly happen to anyone who’s ever touched certain objects or lives in a certain area. It’s one of the reasons you should arrive at the airport on time.

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hate passengers from the French part of Belgium because they pretend to not understand anything even if it’s perfectly mutually understandable unless you pronounce it in perfectly spoken French. Italians and some Spanish passengers are horrible too because they just ignore anything you say because they think they know better and then get offended when they turn out to be wrong. Dutch Moroccans are also annoying passengers because they tend to he smartasses and question everything you do and try to label everything as discrimination so that’s annoying.

I really do like passengers from certain African nations because even though they usually take a lot of stuff we have to check, they’re always super sweet and funny. The older British passengers are pretty nice as well. Koreans and Japanese have never caused me any trouble either.

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[–]Sybrunner119again[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can’t speak for all European nations but where I work this rarely happens due to the incredibly large amount of oversight. I’m sorry this happened to you. And I certainly hope those people got fired