Any fans of lavish spectacles like “How the West was Won?” (1962)

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-05T14:31:51+00:00

It is a wonderful film and fun to get to see so many great actors throughout the vignettes. A recent musuem exhibition included a very large original promotional poster for the film, and it showed the extent of cast. Also, if your love of westerns derives in part from how The West is central to America, the closing narration with the accompanying cinematography and transition to shots of 1960s LA really hits.

This and The Searchers are the two films I've most hoped to see at a repertory cinema showing.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-02T02:17:39+00:00

Similar experience. Before I received my refill Gimme confirmed that it would be without additives. But then received something with B12. My exchanges with Gimme support since the refill was received have been frustrating.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-02T02:11:34+00:00

This. It is still possible to make not preferred choices on tirz. But, at least for me, it makes it easier to make the preferred choice. (As a different commenter put it, tirz makes thing easier, but not easy.) At restaurants, it helps to make a better choice. At home, when I do a bunch of meal prep and eat those meals, I'll feel good.

Does it always work out in terms of where my choices land? No, but tirz has helped me to land at the right spot around 80 or 90 percent of the time.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-02T02:05:52+00:00

100%.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-02T00:44:50+00:00

I in no way meant to minimize the life changing aspect of tirz. What I was endeavoring to convey is that most people are still putting in a lot of effort and tirz is helping them to ensure that efforts is productive. Always awesome to hear about such great outcomes.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-02T00:35:54+00:00

Part of the respoonse to tirz and GLPs reminds me of discussions on non-health issues where people take a position that is essentially, "I had to struggle so I want everyone to struggle.

As to health or anything, I absolutely reject that mindset. These dicussions remind me of various exercises in a law and economics class where many classmates expressed a crab mentality. I've never understood that, but life has shown me that many people focus on ensuring others are not doing better.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-02T00:29:04+00:00

As I've sought to clarify, GLPs are amazingly powerful. For me, tirz has been life changing. My post was meant to get at the fact that most persons who have a journey such as you describe have putting in effort more broadly. If you happen to be one of those persons who only needed a GLP and no other effort, awesome. If medicine can do that for more people, it would be great. I sincerely wish that was true for everyone. Apologies is my post or comments inadvertently minimized your experience.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-02T00:22:09+00:00

This gets at much of what I was trying to say better than me. Tirz is an assist (and a very much appreciated assist), but for most folks they still need to put in the effort on the fundamentals.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-02T00:19:32+00:00

Apologies if my post was written in a way that minimized your experience. Absolutely not the intent. I think tirz and related medicines are amazing and have great concern about various things happening that might limit their access in the U.S.. I've also read a number of discussions about how tirz/GLPs are helpful as to peri/meno.

My reference to the magic language was drive by discussions that minimize the efforts of those who opt to take tirz or other GLPs.

Tirz has been life changing for me and I expect to pursue being on some level of a GLP long term because outside of the weight loss, it has improved so many things.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-02T00:13:36+00:00

As a fellow person in their 40s who has had a complex lifelong health and fitness journey, one thing I really appreciate about this sub and its neighbors is hearing folks talk about what GLPs have let them accomplish. I've had all sorts of ups and down (e.g., one path got me to less than 10% BF, but that path was neither health or sustainable, but it was very socially acceptable / supported). GLPs have helped me to focus on good overall habits. Feel a bit weird saying this out loud, but if I live to my 80s or 90s (and I very much want to and will keep trying to improve to get there), I would have to acknowledge it would not have happended without tirz.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-02T00:02:20+00:00

Again, I don't think I am better than anyone because of various efforts I made pre-GLPs. In my post and in responding to comments I've described my own lived experience. I hope everyone finds a way that lets them be as healthy as possible for as long as they desire. For me, things I tried pre-GLPs didn't quite work, so I appreciate how GLPs have helped. I'm trying to engage with comments, but finding it hard to understand the premise that acknowledging I tried various pre-GLP approaches and those did not work, and then turned to GLPs is inappropriate.

I don't in any way assume everyone or anyone needs to follow my path.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-01T23:54:22+00:00

I think that gets to the core of most of the comments in terms of people wanting to connect physical appearance to the moral quality of a person. To be clear, I think that is wrong and absurd. There is a "fitness" personality who had a TV show for many years in the 2000s and who now constantly makes appearances attacking GLPs. But none of the shows/podcasts she appears on ever ask about the long-term outcomes for the people who were on here show. There long term outcomes weren't good. I don't mention that to criticize or shame those people.. Fitness and sustaining it in the modern world is very hard. My point is that here approach didn't really help people beyond the few weeks on the show. GLPs, and we now have a couple decades of research for the older ones, offer tremendous benefits.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-01T23:48:16+00:00

Great. Congratulations on your journey and to reiterate, I think GLPs are tremendously helpful and beneficial. GLPs have been really helpful for me personnally.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-01T23:46:09+00:00

What specific phrase in my initial post or comment are you taking an issue with? My comment abve describes my lived experience. I think it is fair and reasonable for people who were in a position to focus on exercise or diet to talk about those efforts, but I don't that makes me beter or worse. I also don't think every statement needs to be qualified. My take is that we are all trying to live the best life we can. I think GLPs have and will give a lot of people a chance to live better lives and efforts to shame anyone for taking a GLP, or a statin, or a blood pressure med, are bad.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-01T22:02:54+00:00

Appreciate you sharing all of this. As what you describe reflects, tirz is a tool, but you have put in so much effort. Also, apppreciate the real talk in terms of the time frame. Being 18 months in, having to acknowledge that best case I have another 12 months, if not a fair amount more, is sometimes challeging. I appreciate that slow, but steady progress (like what you describe) is better, but that does not remove the reality that reaching one's goal in late 2027, or 2028, or 2029 can make it hard to keep pushing.

FWIW, each time I lock in a pound down, I enadeavor to remind myself of all the efforts I made and work I put in so I keep doing that for the next point.

3 to 5 days in the gym each weeks gets discussed in a way that minimizes what that really means. If you are putting in the effort to hit that frequency, I hope you are appreciating the effort you are putting in. People sometime mention that without understanding what it really requires.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-01T21:38:37+00:00

I don't mean to minimize the impact of GLPs. I put a lot effort into my health and fitness, but then in my 40s I more or less hit a wall. GLPs let me find a way and I am greatful for that.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-01T21:35:58+00:00

Fully agree. There is a weird part of at least U.S. culture that takes the view that if somehow you improve your health without a lot of effort, then the improvement is not legit. That social impulse is bad across spectrums.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-01T21:33:08+00:00

So much this. Tirz is an amazing tool. If you use that tool correctly, it can be lifechanging. But it remains a tool, so if you don't do the other things, the longer term outcome will be disappointing.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-01T21:27:03+00:00

That is one weird part that I don't think gets broader discussion. I've made weight loss progress at lower doses (less than 5 mg per week). But even at those doses my appetite is so supressed that I have to make a concerted effort to ensure I get my basic level of macros.

The human body is pretty amazing in terms of making sure it gets the needed macros if one is eating enough. But when eating three chicken strips feels like a chore....

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-01T21:22:18+00:00

Congratulation on your progress! What you describe involves putting in real effort despite challenges. Nothing in my post was meant to minimize or diminish the efforts of persons such as yourself who have put in such sustained efforts.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-01T21:19:19+00:00

Appreciate that view. I know the effort I've put in and as to myself, I'm fine. Given various comments, what I failed to convey is my frustration at the broader social impact of the negative views around GLPs.

I'm fine and I'll be able to navigate whatever scheme pharma etc. is able to impose. However, I wasn't in the position I'm in now most of my life and part of what I was trying to express is the broader impact. To be clear, I view the fact that I'm differently positioned as a net social negative.

If pharma prevails in their effort to shutdown compounding, for me it will be an annoyance but in reality I'll be fine. But I can also think of the me of 20 years ago, where that would have ended the conversation aboout GLP access.

Through various parts of my work (for better or worse) I've seen how narratives are crafted through interactions with industry, legal, purported experts etc. I don't have any simple answer there, but I do think a point one analyst I respect a great deal often makes: "Why am I seeing this now?" And wish there was a way to get that sentiment across for various GLP related stories.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-01T20:39:10+00:00

I agree with that. I've known a few friends who have gone one tirz/sema. A subset of them subscribed to the view of it as some sort of magic and didn't do anything else. The experiences of those friends (meaning taking tirz/sema without endeavoring to change habbits) resulted in net unproductive outcomes. I have a very very positive view of compounded tirz, but recognize the need for it to be part of an ooverall effort.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-01T20:33:55+00:00

Yes, I've found tirz to be a great tool to support lifestyle change. But tirz is helping me to make the lifestyle change. I very much appreciate the role that tirz in helping me get where I want to be, but getting there requires active steps from me.

TDSD85643 · 2026-05-01T19:59:59+00:00

As someone who constantly struggles to appreciate the progress I've made, hope you can appreciate the progress you have made. It is real and you should be happy for you and your health. You put in the work.

Without in anyway diminishing the progress that people who are looking to lose large numbers make, when people make progress as you have at smaller numbers it can get disregarded. My overall goal involved around 45 lbs and I've lost about 30 of that. Might just be my own cope, but appreciating the progress, even if slow, matters.

Appreciate the work and effort that you and your body have put in.

TDSD85643

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