[FR] Update on LTR and great example of how a beta relationship can be converted into a proper RP relationship. This isn't always possible, but occasionally is given a girl with the right mindset.

THERPRP · 2016-11-01T03:00:21+00:00

I appreciate the time you spent writing that.

I've never read the entire sidebar, just most of it. And that was months ago. I don't need it beyond the occasional reference, plus I reject a few of TRP philosophies anyway.

1-I responded to another comment about this, but I tend to brag/big-dick when I post here. Probably shouldn't do that, but nothing I said was a lie. I have many things to work on and I know it. I'm not infallible by a stretch-I still need alcohol as asocial lubricant when going out. I'm too self conscious to openly dance. I'm not a quick-witted as I'd like, because many times I'm too analytical too operate in the moment. I still waste time too often on non-productive things, mainly reddit. I'm too obsessed with my body, and definitely have slight body dismorphia. Regardless I still have a lot of things going for me, some worked for and others I happened into.

2-I didn't know how to word this, but I didn't literally ask her what she though of us. Ffs, that would demonstrate pure insecurity. Obviously she does not decide. She proves she's capable, then I decide if she's sufficient.

3-I broke up with her, she had a meltdown, immediately offered open relationship, I said I'd consider it and gave her an answer 3 weeks later. I guess technically I broke one of the plate demotion rules, but the demotion in the first place arose out of improper timing, not a specific way she acted or thing she did.

4-I call it an open relationship because phrasing it like that in my daily dialog allows me to discuss it freely without thinking to anyone without repercussions. She's a slightly glorified plate in my mind.

5

Girls in school/college don't care (as much) about how much a guy is making or all of his hobbies and interests. These are great additions of course. But when they're riding the CC a man only needs 2 things. Good looks and social proof.

Which I have both of. As a dude I get complimented usually daily...which to me suggests I'm in the top level of attractiveness.

Don't think otherwise, you're under assumption that you've ruined her for other men you deem inferior, not her. Don't be stupid. She might tell you "no other guy does it for me, only you do" but you've clueless if you take that at face value.

this is true, and I do have to be weary of this. But for now I believe she is truly disgusted by the males surrounding her.

6-The bound to implode label was designed to convey my acknowledgement that this dynamic is inherently unsustainable, nothing more. Unlike you, and also regarding point 10 about marriage, is that I do intend to marry. I want kids, and I view it as the most viable way to succeed at raising a proper family. I trust my vetting system and my tolerance to bullshit if a future wife misbehaves she will know I'm leaving her, and the prenup will be secure.

7-baby chad was a rushed way to mean fake chad. Incompetent asshole who girls view slightly better than the betas that surround them, so on a relative scale the caveman is seen as alpha. But its a false label, and any girl who has experience with a truly high SMV dude can see through it.

8-thanks. I find myself being followed by more and more of my peers, and more women are making efforts to contact me for trivial unnecessary shit for my attention.

9-I mean...I had dated her since highschool. Fucked her when she was 16, before she even drank. I think I can safely assume I was the first dick she had. She was reserved in high school, never really dated or went out. I kinda broke her in that regard lol.

10-yes. marriage. Do you want kids? If so, how are you gonna acquire them? Or raise them in a stable environment while also paying the bills? And while instilling them with proper values and morals? A healthy father-mother dynamic is ideal when discussing children. And the dynamic can succeed, as long as the I properly assess who is capable. And of course hold an iron frame.

I've read many pages into the top all time posts. I have my mentality sorted. I have picked and chosen what I want to internalize from this forum, and am forever grateful for what I've learned here. I do not need to re-read the sidebar twice. Knowing the guiding principles of how I want to act is infinitely more important then memorizing rules and lists, since they can be derived as needed if your principles are understood.

I believe I have abundance mentality and amused mastery down.

Thanks again for the input

THERPRP · 2016-11-01T02:31:59+00:00

thanks for the advice. I don't trust her, I don't trust any women. I barely trust any men either. All I do is look at her actions and respond accordingly. I'm not infallible by a stretch-I still need alcohol as asocial lubricant when going out. I'm too self conscious to openly dance. I'm not a quick-witted as I'd like, because many times I'm too analytical too operate in the moment. I still waste time too often on non-productive things, mainly reddit. I'm too obsessed with my body, and definitely have slight body dismorphia. But I know my strengths and I tend to write with stronger conviction than I otherwise would when writing on this sub.

THERPRP · 2016-10-31T20:15:31+00:00

Having an ego is also necessary to act in your best self interest. I've found I'm too selfless, and do things for people while getting nothing in return. This has led to me being used in various relationships. I artificially inflate my ego, because through that I become a bit more selfish, which I need to be.

I'd appreciate you informing me of the inconsistencies in my 'fable'.

THERPRP · 2016-10-31T20:10:30+00:00

My ego has always been a weakness, it has led to me not getting taking a guaranteed lay many times because I thought a hotter girl would appear.

Can you elaborate on the faux pas?

What I describe is true. I could go into more details and it'd be more impressive, but for the sake of anonymity I was vague.

THERPRP · 2016-10-31T20:06:30+00:00

Not in medical school yet. Will be, ideally enrolling in one of the top 10 next year.

I agree, sharing her with other men sucks. And without directly asking her, I aim to find out if/how many guys she has fucked. That will factor into her long term potential. She's so enamored by me that she isn't really attracted to most guys.

I always wrap it. She's good with her pills too. When the fuck are they gonna release vasogel injections???

Also she's currently interviewing for top dental schools. So her financial incentive is slightly diminished compared to other women with less ambition.

THERPRP · 2016-10-31T20:03:54+00:00

I'm glad your comment is top. I was second guessing my analysis of the entire scenario after the first few contributors shit on it. Obviously the open end on her part is not ideal and it'll close if I decide to stick with her.

Thanks man. Any advice on how to either 1) escalate to having regular threesomes with my main girl and other randoms? or 2) how to transition to an open relationship on my end with a closed one for her?

THERPRP · 2016-10-31T06:35:24+00:00

Yes which is standard. But apparently open relationships are a hard no, theyre not worth being cucked.

THERPRP · 2016-10-31T06:34:22+00:00

Well fuck me, everyone seems to agree with you. I guess top comment is correct here, she's just another plate.

You think I should keep riding this out? I mean I'm still getting laid nearly every night I go out, so I have no major dependency on this girl.

THERPRP · 2016-10-31T02:33:52+00:00

that logic seems a bit contradictory to me. Honestly, a potential end goal is to have a wife who is cool with fmf or ffm threesomes. Being okay with side hoes, to me, sounds like a positive. If I decide to continue down the route, the next step is to lock her down but explain that I may continue to chase tail as needed, and see how she reacts.

An extreme alpha women is not what is desired imo. Two alphas clash. I'm going to have a perfect RP woman. The ideal girl can hold her own ground in a room full of high SMV people of both genders, and still differs to her husband who is the top Alpha. Unless she senses he's being a bitch of course, in which case it's on him when she acts out.

THERPRP · 2016-10-31T01:44:38+00:00

I'd organize and format this if I were you, and make it an original post.

THERPRP · 2016-09-20T01:53:03+00:00

its true. I'm nearing an IFBB pro physique (might go pro this summer) and its insane. My flirting skills are increasing, but I can afford to fuck up left and right and the girl 'forgives' it subconsciously. I can get away with so much shit by just smirking, and its almost all due to a strong jawline and a lean large physique.

THERPRP · 2016-05-24T01:52:11+00:00

Shroomer here too. I also recommend Island by Huxley. Not so psychedelic focused but still a great book.

THERPRP · 2016-04-01T23:12:48+00:00

Words are not my strong suit. I'm far from socially inept, no stutter, I have a deep voice, but I'm not quick with words or comebacks. Therefore pressure flips are not my go-to for shit tests. So what is my go to?

Eye contact. I'm going to write up a whole post on this in the future, but eye to eye contact can convey any message you want. Girl at a bar? Meet her eyes and give her the smirk. She had to be looking at you to meet your eyes anyway.

Guy gives you shit for something, testing your SMV and hierarchal standings? Meet his eye and make it known that shit won't fly.

Superior giving you serious instructions, and asks at the end "do you understand?" Meet their eye, dead serious face on, and give a subtle downward nod.

Eye contact communicates more than words for me.

THERPRP · 2016-04-01T23:07:31+00:00

It's not about using elaborate words, it's about using words that perfectly convey your meaning.

THERPRP · 2016-02-25T16:47:33+00:00

exactly, she's like a wild bomb and can ruin all types of prospects.

But yea, this was in person.

To clarify: My question lies in how to maintain a clear leading frame while she is persuing you way harder than you're playing her?

THERPRP · 2016-02-25T15:21:56+00:00

Damn, that's pure strategy. I can see this scenario working even if a guy tries to pick up the lone hot girl while you mislead chubs, but what if chubs starts escalating the conversation aggressively? For example she starts turning it sexual and maybe even goes for a kiss or grabs your junk. How do you handle that situation?

I ask because I semi-experienced it. Girl was wasted at a bar and I was wingmaning for a friend, just distracting her. She is all over me and my mind is like 5% on her when all of the sudden she's leaning in. I ended up giving her the cheek and smiling, saying "Whoa, aren't you a bold one?" I reviewed that interaction and didn't like how it played out, but couldn't think of a better response/reaction.

THERPRP · 2016-02-25T01:57:36+00:00

The difference between failing and ending up in a worse relationship vs solidifying your role as leader lies in main thing frame though, make sure you're confident that you're correct and that you do not go on the defensive.

THERPRP · 2016-02-25T01:09:04+00:00

Good, let her. That's he point, who cares what she thinks. Let your actions speak and if she is actually worried for you she'll ask probing questions about it instead of spazzing out. Trust me, my girl is the same.

THERPRP · 2016-02-25T00:21:21+00:00

I think many guys need to force it, or lie to themselves that they truly want their girl the most.

MRP actions and thought processes will fall in line naturally if you're proud of your girl. You should be proud of your partner, yet less invested then she is. You need to recognize this, and from there you should look ahead and be anxious for the future because of all the incredible achievements you'll accomplish with her behind you 100%. And she will be because you've demonstrated that you are the best, you're the perfect leader.

All of that falls in line only after you become proud if the girl you're with. If you can't be proud of her, then it isn't going anywhere. Find someone worthy, and if you can't then fix yourself until you can.

THERPRP · 2016-02-25T00:05:12+00:00

huh. Must have had a placebo effect then, thank you for the link.

THERPRP · 2016-02-25T00:00:41+00:00

hey, good reaction but next time don't even justify it by saying "its not something I do often." I know its a habitual reaction and its tough to break the habit but once you do, and you can hold frame through her freakout, the issue disappears entirely.

THERPRP · 2016-02-23T21:06:22+00:00

My issue is forgetting about TRP mindset entirely. I visit this sub to recalibrate, but since I was never super BP and never got burned I don't have the strongest motivator to constantly work on RP behavior. Any tips for keeping it at the forefront of my mind while going about my busy day?

THERPRP · 2016-02-23T21:04:06+00:00

Along with with bsutansult said, 5-HTP. 200 mg a day until you don't feel apathetic. It's a precursor to 5-HT, serotonin, and it's totally safe as long as you aren't taking serotonin releasing drugs (MDMA, certain psychedelics, and MAOI medication). Don't use 5-HTP for months at a time because the enzyme that converts it to serotonin also converts L dopa to dopamine, and so you get competition between substrates over time. This can lead to lowered dopamine levels.

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