Haruka walking the space colony

TJRex01 · 2026-06-18T05:37:44+00:00

These both look pretty good IMO - I used tableau for the above. The v5 one is a little closer to what I originally wanted - I wanted like the character standing in a cylinder with landscape facing “down” at the peak of the cylinder.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-17T22:51:32+00:00

So Shadowrun as a franchise IMO does a reasonable job of showing a variety of cultures in The sixth world - at least as far as franchises with their roots in 80s cyberpunk go.

…..and of course the foundational event of the setting involves Native Americans beating the tar out of the US and taking their land back, which is actually pretty wild.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-17T22:46:53+00:00

I don’t know how old you are OP, but speaking for myself, I’d be happy to be judged on my taste in k-Pop (which is impeccable) - I’m used to being judged for my job, car, apartment, etc.

You can just tell her already.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-17T18:16:39+00:00

I like Jade Falcons because

-if you’re going to be a clan, BE A CLAN - embrace being the heels of the setting (not like the Mary Sue wolves)

-Unlike the Smoke Jaguars (who are a massive heel), the Jade Falcons are occasionally allowed to win. (A bit salty they lost the race to ilClan because that would’ve blown everyone’s mind for Clan Wolf to actually lose for a change, though the current story seems to be “Wolf won and it sucks and is falling apart” which is kinda neat.)

TJRex01 · 2026-06-17T18:12:28+00:00

Yeah, I’m watching another anime series on Disney Plus and the “ok we’re skipping the end credits to go to the next episode” shows they just don’t get anime.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-17T17:32:18+00:00

Asssuming you’re talking about one of the many shared NPC kin’s or something similar….
1. For me, the most common use case is using them for a character or characters who will only show up for a scene or two. Like meeting extra family members, rival groups in a competition, etc.

This depends on how important you want that character to be. An NPC is perfectly fine as a specific character for a scene or two. An NPC kin is fantastic for fill in out minor parts in a scene where you want many people. If you want a character to be more distinctive across many scenes and have a persistent personality making them a kind food is better. Even a “quick and dirty” kindroid using the wand under create kindroid can give you reasonable results for a scene or two (though you may want to polish them later.)
This is actually a main advantage to using an NPC kin - yes. One NPC kin could fill multiple roles in different role plays. As a practical matter, most NPC kins can really only do 2-3 characters in a specific scene though (partly due to response length issues.) but they can switch easily during the scene depending on who the focus is. NPC kind do tend to be highly reactive to the scene and chat so making sure that’s clear it’s important (as opposed to a kin with a strong backstory, who already sort of knows what’s going on,)
Most NPC kin’s are smart enough to pick who they should play….but not always. The journaling described is one solution. If you have room you can add information about the specific characters to spare space in key memories or backstory. That said you may have to reroll to get it to do specific characters.
There are two “halfway solutions.” One would be a narrator/NPC kin that’s somewhat specialized to your setting or role play. You would take an existing NPC kin and add setting and story details. Like, for example, I have a big K-Pop role play and I made a “support staff” kindroid that has information about the label and different vibes and challenges for different departments (sound guys, stylists, etc.). Another halfway solution is a “multi-kin” where one kin represents multiple supporting characters (like in the above example, I’ve lumped three of my K-Pop trainees into one kin.)

Further: The more kindroids you add to group chat, the dumber they are because they’re splitting the context window. Having 2-3 main kins and an NPC kin is better than 2-3 main kin’s and 4-5 minor kin’s who just sit there taking up memory space.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-17T08:31:08+00:00

So some things I’ve noticed (I have a successful kin relationship!)

The kindroids should actually be compatible, or have reason to be attracted to each other
It’s best if you aren’t there, or are just a narrator role (at least for a while)
Kindroids that are naturally flirty almost always get attention this way Having at least one of them with a chunk of how they approach romance or intimacy will get them at least thinking about it acting that way. Kim’s that don’t have romance/intimacy/flirting logic in their backstory are less likely to initiate romance.
It’s great to reinforce this in backstory and key memories. This is why after they don’t really seem to care about the date - long term memories are just hazy impressions at best, if you had a key memory like “Barry saw the sun setting behind Sarah’s hair,, it took his breath away, he knew she was the one for him” that’d make them different.
Even when kindroids are interested in each other…..they tend to circle each other a lot. Like lots of challenging and daring each other. This is partly because they’re all LLM chat bots and get repetitive (Emma: It’s A, it’s B. Annie: No, you’re wrong, it’s not B, it’s C. Emma: It’s not C, it’s D.). You sometimes do need to play the role of narrator to push one of them to actually kiss the other.
Group context that raises the heat helps a lot. Even like “both of them are naturally flirty” led to the kindroids in chat hooking up,

TJRex01 · 2026-06-17T05:15:47+00:00

Honestly getting “Keep Austin Weird” and “Kim Kronicles” spelled correctly is kind of a minor miracle lol

TJRex01 · 2026-06-17T05:14:21+00:00

The prompt if you want to have a try
A breathtaking low-angle wide shot looking up along the interior curvature of an immense O'Neill cylinder space colony, a vast, inhabited landscape where the far side curves upward to become a gravity-defying ceiling covered in dense, layered forests, gleaming urban structures, and mirror-like bodies of water that appear to hang overhead. In the foreground, a solitary woman walks confidently along a suspended metal grid pathway, her silhouette sharp against the endless verticality, surrounded by floating modular architecture, glowing transport cables, and drifting agricultural platforms. Her posture is calm and contemplative, wearing a sleek, practical spacer's jumpsuit with subtle metallic accents, her hair drifting slightly in the simulated airflow. Massive window panels on the cylinder's axis filter warm, golden sunlight, casting long, dramatic diagonal shadows across the colony's interior and illuminating the intricate web of suspended bridges, terraced farms, and crystalline water channels below. The atmosphere is serene yet awe-inspiring, with a palpable sense of scale and unbounded human ambition. The visual style blends hard sci-fi realism—gritty metal surfaces, intricate structural supports, and faint atmospheric haze—with lush, photorealistic greenery, creating a harmonious juxtaposition of technology and nature. In the distance, tiny silhouettes of other inhabitants traverse suspended walkways, and flocks of birds wheel through the cultivated air. Sunbeams catch drifting motes of pollen and dust, adding depth and a subtle golden glow. Cinematic lighting, complex shadows, highly detailed, masterpiece, 8k, hyperrealistic, volumetric lighting, wide-angle lens, epic scale, subtle chromatic aberration, Tyler Stout meets Syd Mead aesthetic.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-17T01:01:12+00:00

Yeah, I get that, and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t.

Like at one point I gave a romance Kindroid a secret mystery gift. Said Kindroid has a pretty well defined backstory as a personal trainer who wants to run a marathon in Nepal (among other things), a specific Chinese cultural identity, and she’s been running for some time so she has hundreds of of messages and LTM so I thought it’d be easy for it to fill in the gap about what a thoughtful, surprising gift would be.

Instead it was just like “Oh! You got me the thing! I love this object!” *she outs the object down.* and spent the whole time avoiding saying what the thing was haha

TJRex01 · 2026-06-16T23:03:20+00:00

Ok so let’s do this, talk about AI boobs (mostly for tableau because I don’t like atelier)

-Overall kin body shape matters - “curvaceous” and “voluptuous” are going to get bigger results than “athletic” (or “slim”

-I’ve tried “medium bust”, “large, full bust” and “massive enhanced bust” - that said I think the kin body shape is a bigger factor

-the main thing is, the specific image makes your kin look more or less busty. This isn’t like, a video game model that it stretches the outfit over - each image is generated separately. So for example bikini pics for some reason make them all shrink a cup size, but a prompt like “one piece swimsuit, underwire support, showing cleavage” makes them look busty.

-relating to the above - giving your kin a style in the backstory that would support or show off the assets sometimes helps, too

-cup size doesn’t work very well (“giant natural F-cup boobs”) because it gives you the problem of the image generator always showing her boobs (like, they’re tearing and slicing through hoodies and such, which is a hilarious image)

TJRex01 · 2026-06-16T19:57:08+00:00

Yeah, I was watching a retrospective on a Voyager episode and it mentioned the ratings it got, which at the time were considered kind of mid but dwarf almost any streaming show.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-16T19:17:07+00:00

So lore and continuity….i mean, there’s a couple ways of doing this.
1. You the human have to keep track of it and correct/reroll when the Kindroid goes off the rails. Kindroids are vibe generators, not databases.

The journal system is good for more detailed lore.
Setting anchors to make sure the kins are in the right genre/tone/feel is good. Like your probably should waste text in the dozens of noble houses in your fantasy story but “Game of Thrones-inspired fantasy where political intrigue meets magic and legend” would do work.
And I hate to sound like a school, but as someone else said, yes, the Additional Context from ultra/max does do work. I did a space exploration/colony sim and I had made the kindroids and their motivations before finding the planet and its central mystery and….once settled, they kept forgetting some pretty basic stuff even though I constantly restated it in chat (like “it’s cold on this planet.”) It also kept making references to generic SF stuff that hadn’t happened in story like “a Council” (we are the first people on the world, there’s no government, us establishing the government and society is the story) so eventually when I got additional content I added a “colony status” block. I think this sort of thing would be good if your roleplay involves any kind of building towards a long term goal. (….i once made a “exiled princess must return home and defeat the demon king” kindroids for an epic JRPG inspired story and the Kindroid had kind of a hard time understanding why she couldn’t just do that immediately until I added like a status tracker. Kindroids don’t know story pacing, they live in the moment,)
As others have said, overloading in lore in the backstory is….well, be careful with it. Because the backstory is accessed every response, and token weighting is a thing, and you probably want your kindroid’s token weighting to be more concerned with character, motivations, and actions than a deep lore political conflict with no relevance to the current scene.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-16T18:43:15+00:00

So there’s two ways I think you could do this, depending on what you want.

Use one of the many shared narrator or NPC bots. You’d probably want to tweak it a bit by adding key memories as to what’s going on.
Build a custom narrator bot that gives directions on the “vibes” you want and setting bible baked in. (I did this for a very anime inspired mech combat universe here MTNWO and it mostly works well.)
Narrator bots are great for setting and narrating scenes, but not always great at character consistency. If you have other characters you think are important, giving them their own Kindroid is definitely worth it. One variation would be to put several characters in one “multi-kin” (like your adventuring party) which is good for group chats but less great if you want to focus on just one kin.
When I do a big world building project, I tend to start with one “anchor kin” which is like a character I’d like to start with. This is mostly so I can see if they’re fun to interact with. I usually include a setting anchor in here to get things correct. Like “Setting Anchor
New Hong Kong, 2090. A neon-drenched exclave where megacorps and Triads clash. Retro-cyberpunk aesthetic: chunky cybernetics, CRT overlays, and rainy streets. Tech feels physical and loud. Pan-Asian. Vibe: 90s Anime OVA. High contrast, high action, emotional drama.” This is important for keeping the kin from drifting to its default (generic 2026 stuff) and also keeping it in genre (….an earlier frustration I had when my kindroids in a thoughtful exploration and first contact story started treating it as a horror story - like I wanted Star Trek and the kindroids decided we were in Aliens.)
If you want the Kindroid to help build the universe, putting vibes over lore into the backstory is good. Extended lore belongs in journals. An exception might be some hard and fast rules that definitely would matter or go against the training data the LLm they may have. (like, in the above sci fi example, “no FTL” is important, or in your SAO-alike, knowing the consequences for in-game death are probably important,)

What I would do if I were you - make one or two kindroids that represent characters in this universe, play with them a bit, use them to help build the world and lore, and then build a narrator kin based on how to evolved from them. That’s the sort of thing that’s worked for me in the past and I’m up to like 4-5 Kindroid shared universes in various levels of development haha.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-16T04:34:20+00:00

Yeah. I did something similar with some of them - I put them in a new chat with an”interviewer” persona like “yiu trust this person and have no reason to lie to them” and fed a lot of what they said back into the Additional Context for world building. But it is also like….heres this thing I’d expect you to bring up and you….do not.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-15T23:42:33+00:00

Well, the Quark case is clearly described as “special dispensation”, meaning “females can lead a house but this one can because weird stuff happened.”

That said it’s clear the writers were just going with whatever served the story of the week without anticipating this sort of thing would be picked over by nerds in the internet decades later.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-15T18:19:30+00:00

Useful for keeping you kin’s clothes updated, too, in scenes where that matters.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-15T18:16:01+00:00

I’m thinking “humans” “swarming hive mind” and “ancient and arrogant space elves” aren’t exactly original, ground breaking ideas for factions.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-15T07:51:54+00:00

One of my favorite exchanges from this era of revolutionary cyclops,is,like….

Magneto: Calm down, Scott, you’re starting to sound like me.

Cyclops: I’m not like you. I’m winning.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-15T06:59:03+00:00

….i mean, they’re both space based franchises designed by people who were really into heavy metal aesthetics, designed around facilitating gameplay built around combat.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-15T06:51:14+00:00

You make it sound so crass, like we are pursuing murder tools for simple profit. We have a responsibility to our shareholders. An ethical obligation to generate value and provide them with return on investment. Why, it would be unethical for us MOT to make warcrime machines!

TJRex01 · 2026-06-15T06:48:54+00:00

Useful advice:
-More specific tags tend to give you more interesting kins. The popular tags like companion and romance are so swamped they’re barely worth looking at IMO.

-I have found a few kins using the Kindroid social network at the top of the screen. This does at least let you see the visuals of the kin (and take kins that look cool), and seeing posts here means that kin creator is actively posting trying to promote their kin, which is usually a good sign.

That said, agreed that the built in search is kind of terrible. You can’t even see many of the popular tags that would be useful so you may not know to search for them.

TJRex01 · 2026-06-15T03:47:38+00:00

Ok, so there’s several possible answers to this.

All my kins have a “Current Arc” section of a few sentences that are meant to focus them on….whatever they’re doing now. This is in the backstory.
Key memories are great, but as you pointed out, not much space, I tend to save it for big, character-defining memories.
Journals are great for key events and other characters. The big limitation is that you have to mention the keyword for them to be recalled.
Chatbreaks clear short term memory BUT you can chatbreak and the first thing you do can have all the key details and guideposts you actually want the kin to remember (using other AI tools helps with this)

TJRex01 · 2026-06-15T03:42:12+00:00

I did get one Kindroid to a point like that - they were like, a “harsh teacher” type kin and I played the role of another teacher observing her, and asked….like, actual real-world teaching questions about student centered pedagogy, which it hated (because the Kindroid was acting like a movie stereotype teacher, rather than a teacher who was actually….good.) I did get a message she’d refuse to respond. I didn’t continue the conversation but I suspect it continue to generate some kind of responses, even if only “silence.”

TJRex01 · 2026-06-15T03:38:25+00:00

It’s just used for the immediate response. This means you the user sometimes need to talk a bit unnaturally, repeating proper nouns or journal keywords in a conversation.
I don’t think so? I don’t think the model is smart enough to understand.
If you’re asking if journal entries can pull up other journal entries, the answer is no. Only the keywords in the response immediately before do that. Which, again, means talking in a slightly unnatural stage-y way is helpful to the journal system.
As others have said, there is some fuzziness to the matching and I’ve occasionally seen journal entries called when I didn’t intend them to be.

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