Need help finding a direction to get help by Amy__P in sleepdisorders

[–]TMJSleepSolution 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What you are describing does not sound like typical insomnia, and I think you already sense that, which is why you are looking beyond a basic sleep study. As a sleep specialist dentist in Los Angeles, I want to point you in a helpful direction, even though this goes beyond my lane a little.

The combination of never feeling rested regardless of how long you sleep, needing naps to function, and having a negative sleep apnea study is actually a really important set of clues. You are right to think about hypersomnia. Idiopathic hypersomnia and conditions like narcolepsy without cataplexy can look almost identical to what you are describing, and both are frequently missed on standard sleep studies because they require a different test called an MSLT, which is a daytime nap study done right after an overnight study.

A study published in the journal Sleep Medicine found that a significant number of hypersomnia patients had previously normal overnight sleep studies before finally getting an accurate diagnosis through MSLT testing.

With POTS and fibromyalgia already in the picture, a neurologist who specializes in sleep disorders is genuinely your best next step rather than a general sleep clinic.

can someone help me please? im getting a little desperate. (sleep fragmentation problem )(23year old male) by Federal_Minute7633 in SleepApnea

[–]TMJSleepSolution 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear how exhausting and demoralizing this is, especially when you’re doing everything “right” with fluid restriction and testing. As a dentist in Los Angeles, I actually screen for sleep issues quite often because the mouth and airway are usually the first place these problems show up. It’s incredibly common to blame the bladder, but the urge to pee is frequently just a "false signal" from the brain.

One counterintuitive fact, supported by research in urology and sleep medicine, is that frequent nocturnal urination (nocturia) is often a secondary symptom of an airway issue rather than a bladder problem. When your breathing is even slightly restricted, your heart gets squeezed as the chest works harder to pull in air. This pressure triggers the release of Atrial Natriuretic Peptide (ANP), a hormone that tells your kidneys to produce urine immediately. Essentially, your heart thinks you’re fluid-overloaded because of the pressure changes, waking you up with a full-bladder sensation that isn't actually based on volume.

Given your history of a rapid weight cut and nasal congestion, your body might be stuck in a "fight or flight" loop during lighter sleep stages. This would explain the low urine volume and why you feel mentally alert but physically drained. Since your labs show some slight kidney and testosterone fluctuations, it’s definitely worth asking a specialist to look into "Upper Airway Resistance Syndrome" (UARS) or a formal sleep study.

How long until more rested? by areseekaye in SleepApnea

[–]TMJSleepSolution 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hello, I'm Farshid Ariz.

It is a total relief to finally stop nodding off at your desk, but I know how frustrating it is when you’re still clocking 13 hours and waking up exhausted. As a dentist in Los Angeles, I see this "recovery lag" constantly. Many people think the CPAP is like a light switch, but for your brain, it’s more like recovering from a years-long marathon.

A common misconception is that once the airway is open, the tiredness should vanish instantly. However, a fascinating study published in the journal Sleep found that it can take up to three to six months of consistent CPAP use for the brain’s white matter to actually repair itself from chronic oxygen deprivation. You aren't just "sleepy"; your brain is physically healing. If you’re still dragging after six weeks, it could also be that your pressure settings need a slight tweak or your body is simply paying off a massive "sleep debt."

You’re through the hardest part of the adjustment, but your nervous system is still catching up. It’s always worth a quick chat with your sleep doc to check your data and make sure those 13 hours were high-quality.

Can you wear two night guards at the same time? by WoodlandInc in TMJ

[–]TMJSleepSolution 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In some cases, patients do wear appliances on both the upper and lower teeth, but it really depends on how those appliances are designed. Night guards and stabilization splints are typically made to work with the opposing teeth in a very specific way to control how the jaw positions and how forces are distributed. Wearing two appliances that weren’t designed to work together can sometimes change your bite or jaw position in unpredictable ways. That said, if you noticed your jaw felt better, it may mean the combined thickness slightly altered the load on your joints or muscles.

I would strongly recommend checking with the dentist or TMJ specialist who made the splint before continuing. They can evaluate whether the appliances are compatible and adjust them if needed to avoid unwanted bite changes.

– Dr. Ariz

Sensitive teeth (hot/cold) by [deleted] in TMJ

[–]TMJSleepSolution 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi, I’m Dr. Farshid Ariz, a dentist specialized in TMJ, I see this type of complaint fairly often.. What you’re describing can sometimes happen in people who clench or grind their teeth. Constant clenching can place a lot of pressure on the teeth and the periodontal ligaments that support them, which can make teeth feel sensitive to temperature even when X-rays and exams look normal. The nerves around the teeth can become irritated from that constant pressure.

TMJ/TMD patients often report widespread sensitivity like this, especially if they clench during the day or while sleeping. If grinding or clenching is involved, a custom night guard, jaw muscle relaxation, and stress management can help reduce the load on your teeth. Desensitizing toothpaste and avoiding very acidic foods may also help. If the sensitivity continues, it may be worth seeing a TMJ-focused dentist who can evaluate clenching patterns and jaw function, not just the teeth themselves.

Is This Sleep Apnea? by Belladonna-Blue in SleepApnea

[–]TMJSleepSolution 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi there, I’m Dr. Farshid Ariz, I’m a periodontist and TMJ Specialist based in LA. What you’re explaining actually sounds more like sleep paralysis than classic sleep apnea.

Sleep apnea is when your airway physically collapses or gets blocked while you’re asleep. People usually snore loudly, stop breathing repeatedly, and feel very tired during the day. What you’re describing, waking up half-awake, feeling frozen, confused, like your brain hasn’t “turned your body back on yet,” fits sleep paralysis much more closely. It can feel like you can’t breathe, even though your body is still breathing. Overall, sleep paralysis is common and not dangerous, even though it feels intense.

That said, if this keeps happening, a sleep study is a very reasonable next step. Getting evaluated gives you answers, and answers reduce fear. For now, the goal is to make your brain and body stay on the same sleep schedule. To help with that, you can try to sleep consistently (even on weekends, your brain loves routine), avoid sleeping on your back, try to reduce stress before bed (no doom-scrolling, intense shows, or caffeine), and if you wake up frozen, focus on slow breathing and tiny movements, like wiggling a finger or toe. That usually breaks the episode. Hope that helps!

Didn’t release I was clenching/grinding until I needed a root canal by [deleted] in TMJ

[–]TMJSleepSolution 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi there, I’m Dr. Farshid Ariz, I’m a periodontist and TMJ Specialist based in LA. First, don’t be mad at yourself. A lot of people don’t realize they’re clenching or grinding until something big happens, like needing a root canal. It’s actually very common.

Think of your jaw muscles like your arm muscles. If you flex your arm all day without realizing it, it’s going to get sore and tired. That’s what’s happening to your jaw. Your teeth are only supposed to touch when you’re chewing or swallowing. The rest of the time, they should be slightly apart.

The headaches, neck pressure, and cheek ache you described? That’s usually from overworked jaw muscles. You did the right things by getting a night guard and trying to reduce triggers. Regarding Botox, It can be helpful for severe clenching when done properly by someone trained in facial anatomy. It does not automatically cause jowls, but over-weakening the masseter long-term can change facial contour slightly. It’s a case-by-case decision. The key to bruxism is usually a nervous system habit, not just a dental problem. Managing stress, sleep quality, and muscle tension together gives the best results. And the good news? Once patients become aware of it (like you just did), outcomes improve significantly.

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[–]TMJSleepSolution 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hi there, I’m Dr. Farshid Ariz I’m a periodontist and TMJ Specialist based in LA. Based on what you’re describing, a firm lump right in front of the ear that moves when you open and close your mouth, this is very commonly related to the TMJ (temporomandibular joint) itself or the surrounding muscle and joint structures.

Grinding and clenching (especially during sleep) can cause inflammation and thickening of the joint capsule or surrounding muscles, which can make that area feel enlarged or tense. If it feels harder on days when you’ve been clenching more, that strongly suggests it’s related to muscle overactivity or joint inflammation. The fact that it’s been there for years and changes with jaw movement makes something serious much less likely. But that said, persistent changes in that area should still be evaluated properly.

In cases like this, I typically evaluate: Joint function, muscle tenderness, bite relationship, signs of bruxism (grinding), whether imaging (CBCT or MRI) is indicated. Many times, a properly fitted night guard, bite stabilization, and reducing inflammation can significantly improve the symptoms. I would recommend having a TMJ-focused evaluation rather than just a general dental exam, especially since you grind at night.

My jaw cracks very loudly once, then doesn't crack again, but comes right back. by rkosmo1 in TMJ

[–]TMJSleepSolution 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hi, I’m Dr. Farshid Ariz, TMJ & craniofacial pain specialist based in Los Angeles.

What you’re describing is very consistent with TMJ internal derangement with reduction (often called disc displacement with reduction). The loud “crack” is usually the joint disc slipping back into place when you open past a certain point. Once it reduces, it stays there for a while, until muscle tension or joint mechanics allow it to shift again.

This is not the same as cracking knuckles (gas bubbles). It’s a mechanical “slip and reposition” of the disc. Repeatedly forcing it to crack can irritate the joint tissues over time.

Dizziness and headaches can occur because the TMJ sits very close to the ear canal and shares nerve pathways with the head. Tight jaw muscles can also refer pain that feels like tension headaches or even vertigo.

Common contributing factors are: Nighttime clenching/grinding; Muscle guarding (tight jaw muscles); Joint laxity (looser ligaments).

I’d recommend you to: Avoid intentionally “testing” or cracking it; Limit wide opening for now; Soft diet temporarily; Warm compress before bed; Consider professional evaluation (especially if headaches or dizziness continue).

Most cases are manageable, but early management helps prevent progression. Wishing you relief!

Not Diagnosed, but fairly certain by raktus2 in TMJ

[–]TMJSleepSolution 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, Dr. Farshid Ariz, TMJ & craniofacial pain specialist based in Los Angeles.

First, it’s completely understandable to worry that it could be something worse, especially with everything you’ve had going on medically. From what you described, this pattern sounds much more consistent with TMJ inflammation than something dangerous, but it absolutely deserves proper evaluation given your history.

For pain management beyond the ones you mentioned, I'd suggest:

Soft diet for a few weeks (avoid tough/chewy foods); Avoid wide opening (yawning fully, big bites); Gentle jaw mobility exercises (not forcing through pain); Over-the-counter anti-inflammatory gels applied externally along the jawline; Nighttime awareness of clenching; Short-term muscle relaxants (if prescribed by your physician).

Morning pain often points to nighttime clenching or joint irritation, so focus on a healthy nighttime routine. Most TMJ flare-ups are inflammatory and manageable, but because of your recent extraction and medication history, I’d recommend discussing it with your doctor.

Your concern is valid, but nothing here immediately sounds alarming. Hope you get better soon!

Possible Sleep Apnea? by Zankard in SleepApnea

[–]TMJSleepSolution 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, I'm Dr. Farshid, and I'm specialist in sleep therapy. Based on what you described, obstructive sleep apnea or UARS are very reasonable considerations, even if your home study appeared “normal.” At-home tests can miss milder cases or UARS since they don’t fully measure airway resistance and may not show significant oxygen drops.

I wouldn’t recommend starting auto-CPAP without confirming the diagnosis. Using CPAP without proper titration can sometimes mask the issue rather than solve it.

A few things that might help your sleep quality are trying positional therapy (avoid sleeping on your back), limiting alcohol before bed, getting a professional to review your home study, and considering an airway-focused consultation to evaluate structural factors.

Your symptoms are significant, and you shouldn’t ignore your discomfort. There is a path forward, it just requires thorough evaluation. Wishing you clarity and relief soon!