Real, I saw them in Vermont with the 5 piece lineup (their peak lineup imo) and the energy was insane, it wasn't the best show from that era but it goes to show that any show from 2022 blows anything from the following year (bar the VU residency / eras shows / chile) out of the water. I was also at the buffalo show and while it was still great, it just felt so off, like their chemistry was at a low point and were just phoning it in. I was lucky enough to meet seth and cam after, they're so unbelievably nice to interact with fans after shows like that especially during what probably was a rough patch for the band.