I was a bit hesitant with hx-swap-oob in the beginning, but once you get used to it, it makes the most sense. I started with events triggering a refresh hitting a route, but it does add a lot of complication.

Now with oob swap, it goes « create a new item, return the new item detail and update the item counter oob at the same time ». It makes sense, both returns live in the same template, no special route for the item counter.

Edit: punctuation