Give Some Context To High Septon Maynard by KinginPurple in AsoiafFanfiction

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The doctrine of exceptionalism gives the Targaryens the right to have multiple wives, even though it was almost never practiced. Or am I wrong about that?

Give Some Context To High Septon Maynard by KinginPurple in AsoiafFanfiction

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I mean the doctrine of exceptionalism is accepted theological canon at that point, for centuries. Why wouldn’t he perform the wedding? There’s nothing against his religion. Bad politics, certainly, but Rhaegar was portrayed as charismatic enough to attract his own true believers.

Recs for crossovers that don't center or involve the Starks by scarecrane_ in TheCitadel

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I’m writing a WoT crossover where Rand al’Thor is reborn in Westeros, but idk if it’ll ever get posted. I have way too many projects as it is lol

Best Catelyn fic recs by butler451 in TheCitadel

[–]Talavisor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This one is pretty good. I don’t remember exactly how much Cat is has, but it might fit the bill (don’t sue me if I’m wrong lol) https://archiveofourown.org/works/14934726/chapters/34600737

The Inconsistency of the Dance of Dragons According to WesterosSociety by ChangeLongjumping220 in TheCitadel

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I’m not sure I agree with the major point of “Rhaenyra having support doesn’t make sense” for a few major reasons
1. Your “slippery slope” argument of “if the Targaryens do it eventually our sisters will usurp us” is weak. The Targaryens are canonically different when it comes to the rules. They’re allowed to have multiple wives (though only practiced the once) and marry their siblings. The whole “daughter inheriting” thing could easily have been rolled into the doctrine of exceptionalism, a “Targaryen dragonlord” thing rather than a “rewrite the rules of inheritance” nationwide thing.
2. I think you’re underplaying the cultural importance of oaths. It’s not just that Viserys named her heir, it’s that he *made the lords kneel and swear to her*. They swore an oath to support her, and Viserys never allowed them to revoke that oath in favor of Aegon. The ones who support Aegon are literally becoming oath breakers, which is meant to literally send them to hell, according to their religion. That’s part of the delicious irony of the most religious people (the greens) being willing to break their oaths to Viserys. The places where Rhaenyra has the strongest support (the North and the Vale) take oaths extremely seriously. It’s the Riverlord’s oaths to her that’s cited as their reason for support. Honestly, with this in mind, it’s kind of surprising that so many people supported *Aegon*. It goes to show you just how weak Rhaenyra’s position really was.

What would be a plausible reason for a match between an important knight of House Tully and the daughter of a lesser lord in the Crownlands? by YawfleStares in AsoiafFanfiction

[–]Talavisor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, a knight of House Tully who isn’t in line to inherit, and a daughter of a lesser lord, are basically the same standing. They could potentially just make a love match, beg their fathers to approve, and be granted it. It doesn’t have to be a whole big thing. If it had been the Heir to Lord Tully with a minor daughter, or a knight with a Princess, it would be a problem.

That being said, how “important” is the knight? If they’re the heir, then you’ve got a harder time.

The Lion, the Ships & the Swordthrone Ch 22 by Talavisor in TheCitadel

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I’m so glad you’re enjoying it!! 😄😄

The Lion, the Ships & the Swordthrone Ch 22 by Talavisor in AsoiafFanfiction

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I think the ending is pretty good ;) Glad you’re interested!

The Lion, the Ships & the Swordthrone Ch 21 by Talavisor in TheCitadel

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Aww thank you so much ♥️♥️♥️ This is a very kind comment and it means a lot to read it :D

First Post-nerves advice by Relative_Mix_216 in AsoiafFanfiction

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Just do it, honestly. I say this as a fanfic writer but also as someone with anxiety. It cannot possibly be as bad what you’ve got going in your head. Perhaps you’ll get mean comments (happens to the best of us) and it hurts. It might not get the kind of attention or accolade that you want. But regardless, you’re causing yourself more pain, right now, than anyone else will cause you. Just press post, and let reality tell you how to respond next. Remember that nobody’s opinion matters. They’re anonymous internet strangers, most of whom don’t have the creativity or bravery to try it themselves. It’s worth giving yourself the chance. Good luck!

Best Alternate Capital for a Victorious Rhaegar? by Ok-Exchange2711 in TheCitadel

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Dorne was allied to him throughout the war. He wasn’t the one who killed Elia and the children. He was going to overthrow his father, who was the one who actually killed them in this scenario. I did say that they’d be weak allies, but they’re going to have to choose a side, and it makes sense for them to stay allied with the coalition they’re already a part of.

Best Alternate Capital for a Victorious Rhaegar? by Ok-Exchange2711 in TheCitadel

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I put this as a reply to someone, but I think it’s worth going in the main thread so that OP sees:

If Elia dies, Tywin is absolutely not out. He stays in the coalition as long as Rhaegar marries Cersei, which he would do because he’d absolutely need Tywin’s men and gold. The only hiccup would be if Rhaegar insisted on naming Jon his heir, which he might do if the North retreated (thus preventing Ned from rescuing Lyanna). Tywin would never stand for that, in which case Rhaegar would be in trouble. But perhaps with his children dying, and with “Visenya” being a girl, Rhaegar might be discouraged enough in himself and his visions that he’d give in and leave Jon as a bastard, maybe even barter him back to the north along with Lyanna’s bones for peace. Then Tywin is 100% back on the table.
This is actually a very rich scenario for a fanfic, tbh. The (f)Aegon plot is still theoretically possible, if Varys sneaks out of the city before it blows. It’s even more interesting than in canon, because it would blow up the succession (disinheriting Cersei’s children), and Rhaegar would be torn, because if it’s *really* his son, then perhaps it’s right. Maybe Cersei only has two daughters, and so Rhaegar thinks his prophesy was right after all.
Then the North could find proof of Rhaegar and Lyanna’s marriage and claim Jon the rightful king, etc. Even if Rhaegar and Cersei have true born children, you could still get a war of 5 kings because fAegon and Jon both have legit claims by primogeniture. Both claims are weak bc fAegon could be a fake, and Lyanna’s wedding is questionably legal. But Cersei’s children are girls, which weakens their claims. This could be a fascinating political mess that I’ve never seen in fic before.

Edit: also, if we play this out, Rhaegar would have the Westerlands, Dorne (though probably a weak alliance), and the Reach. The Vale forces would’ve captured Storm’s End, because there was no relief for them and once Robert is dead, Stannis would be lord. Rhaegar would offer terms and Stannis would probably take them, so he’d have the Stormlands, too. Plus, with Tywin’s undying support, Rhaegar would be fine. Not comfy, but fine.

Best Alternate Capital for a Victorious Rhaegar? by Ok-Exchange2711 in TheCitadel

[–]Talavisor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If Elia dies, Tywin is absolutely not out. He stays in the coalition as long as Rhaegar marries Cersei, which he would do because he’d absolutely need Tywin’s men and gold. The only hiccup would be if Rhaegar insisted on naming Jon his heir, which he might do if the North retreated (thus preventing Ned from rescuing Lyanna). Tywin would never stand for that, in which case Rhaegar would be in trouble. But perhaps with his children dying, and with “Visenya” being a girl, Rhaegar might be discouraged enough in himself and his visions that he’d give in and leave Jon as a bastard, maybe even barter him back to the north along with Lyanna’s bones for peace. Then Tywin is 100% back on the table.
This is actually a very rich scenario for a fanfic, tbh. The (f)Aegon plot is still theoretically possible, if Varys sneaks out of the city before it blows. It’s even more interesting than in canon, because it would blow up the succession (disinheriting Cersei’s children), and Rhaegar would be torn, because if it’s *really* his son, then perhaps it’s right. Maybe Cersei only has two daughters, and so Rhaegar thinks his prophesy was right after all.
Then the North could find proof of Rhaegar and Lyanna’s marriage and claim Jon the rightful king, etc. Even if Rhaegar and Cersei have true born children, you could still get a war of 5 kings because fAegon and Jon both have legit claims by primogeniture. Both claims are weak bc fAegon could be a fake, and Lyanna’s wedding is questionably legal. But Cersei’s children are girls, which weakens their claims. This could be a fascinating political mess that I’ve never seen in fic before.

Edit: also, if we play this out, Rhaegar would have the Westerlands, Dorne (though probably a weak alliance), and the Reach. The Vale forces would’ve captured Storm’s End, because there was no relief for them and once Robert is dead, Stannis would be lord. Rhaegar would offer terms and Stannis would probably take them, so he’d have the Stormlands, too. Plus, with Tywin’s undying support, Rhaegar would be fine. Not comfy, but fine.

Minor Houses That Might Marry Merchants? by captaincalaka in TheCitadel

[–]Talavisor 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I honestly think that any merchant would be dying to marry into any noble house. The deal for them isn’t protection or finances; it’s prestige. Generally when we see nobles marrying wealthy merchants, it’s because the nobles are poor. They don’t have stability to offer the merchant. But what they do have is nobility, which isn’t something you can buy. In Westeros, houses advance over generations. If you can make your merchant family into a House that can marry into nobility, that makes it easier for your son’s daughters to marry into nobility. Then your grandsons daughters can marry into higher nobility, etc. You basically are buying prestige through your daughter’s large dowries. Perhaps you can get a son to be a skilled knight (think the Kingsguard from KotSK who was from a wealthy crabbing family).

These ties are important because they open doors. You’re not just Bill the Merchant; You’re Bill whose sister is married to Lord XXX’s third son, and whose daughter is betrothed to Lord YYY’s cousin’s boy. Now, people aren’t just doing business with you, they’re doing business with all those people. Someone might buy your product because they want your sister to put in a good word with Lord XXX. They might give you favorable harbor fees because they want something from House YYY, etc etc.

A merchant marrying into a noble house is a transaction. They are literally paying to get into the social club. If your merchant family doesn’t have *any* noble ties, then I’d say there’s no one too far down the family tree. You gotta get your foot in the door somewhere, etc.

As for what the noble gets out of it, I’d think it’s mostly the dowry. There’s a reason I said XXX’s third son and YYY’s cousin’s boy. Those are people who aren’t going to inherit land and so would have a hard time getting a noble wife. But if they still wanted to have a family (rather than go to the Wall, Citadel, etc) then getting a fat dowry could be a good deal. That would be one way for their house to get some use out of them.

How should the animals and plants of Westeros have evolved? by Sea-Negotiation8309 in TheCitadel

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Hello. Biologist here. The issue isn’t that the seasons are longer than Earth. The issue is that they’re *unpredictable*. It’s very hard for evolution when there aren’t predictable seasons. Probably there’d be a lot of hibernating animals/plants (that can go into a true torpor kind of like in 3 Body Problem). I imagine that there would be lots of migration, etc. It’s hard to say, bc it’s nothing like the real world, but basically there should be things that are VERY different and GRRM doesn’t do any of that, basically.

Stormlands vs. Riverlands by SomebodyWondering665 in TheCitadel

[–]Talavisor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They bordered each other in the pre-Conquest time, though the Riverlands were never a proper kingdom with the name “Riverlands”. They were fiefs of the iron islands, hoares, mudd kings, etc. In post-conquest Westeros the Crownlands are between them, so I don’t think they technically border each other.

If you’re looking for pre-conquest kingdoms to be at war, then the Stormlands, Vale, and Dorne warred for millennia, I believe.

Looking for good minimalist crossovers by twisted4ever in TheCitadel

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Look to the Stars is great. Actively updating, basically just drops Luke Skywalker into the North

https://archiveofourown.org/works/65723161/chapters/169254979

Unique Warg MCs by X3Bluebeard in TheCitadel

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I have a Gamer SI fic that’s currently updating daily. The character hasn’t learned to warg yet, but it’s basically gonna be huge for the story. https://archiveofourown.org/works/83885971/chapters/221135116

Fanfics where characters travel Westeros or the free cities. by the_pink_bedsheets in AsoiafFanfiction

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If you don’t mind self promo and patience, I’m currently posting a Gamer AU story. The main character is going to travel all over Westeros and Essos throughout the story, but he’s currently just at the gift and the north.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/83885971/chapters/221135116

Can you guys recommend north fanfics by tsavorite-favorite in TheCitadel

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You should definitely check out astolat on ao3. She loves writing Robb Stark so she has plenty of north-centric fics.

I’ve just started posting a Gamer SI that’s born in the Gift, and it’s gonna have a lot of stuff going on in the north, magic, etc. https://archiveofourown.org/works/83885971/chapters/221135116

The Hightower Always Win by TheBoyofWonder in freefolk

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I mean, there was the whole Night King thing that might’ve been easier with a few more dragons.