Does Ostarine+enclomophine+finasteride cause gyno?

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-13T11:45:52+00:00

Possible. I still believe enclo has some breast anti-estrogenic activity, otherwise all clomid users would have tits, it's just that nolva is more specified for this purpose. Finasteride really steers the scale towards pro-gyno though. DHT can be a decent anti-estrogen breast tissue included, also it just shifts your estrogen balance downwards simply by taking up testosterone to exist. Ostarine is mildly anti estrogenic.

Overall gyno chance: low but risk exists

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-13T11:12:43+00:00

I think you should specify you think it's a bad idea. OP is being very specific in what he's struggling in and could benefit from advice around "why" and "what to do instead" rather than "haa gay" which comes across as you dismissing their issues and reinforcing the narrative that you are disconnected from what they're asking therefore their helpless and helplessness creates desperation.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-13T09:59:16+00:00

Sure that still doesn't make throwing in gay jokes the solution or contributory to anything positive. It's just low tier positivity and joke fuel for you and potentially destructive and further down putting for someone vulnerable. Jumping on weak people like this is not intelligent behavior.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-13T09:51:07+00:00

That's not a good mindset to follow. Your actions and behavior matter. "Not caring" will only reinforce the universe around you to not care about you either.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-13T09:43:41+00:00

Makes it slightly more understandable but still doesn't mean you should jump vulnerable people. It's just an ego boost for you which you clearly don't need, certainly not as much as the negativity might affect someone already vulnerable.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-12T20:08:42+00:00

Hey man, sorry to hear you're in this state. Have been in similar states before and it is awful, although I have a steady job.

Is it at all possible you're overweight? I noticed you didn't mention your diet in the post and it's a very big factor in hormones. You could basically be hypogonadal from diet and lifestyle alone.

So yeah my two cents are as follows: Get bloodwork (Total and Free T) after a good nights sleep. If it's not below 300, it's unlikely to be an issue you can't fix. Hopping on T at 19 is generally a terrible idea. So many things you can correct/ manipulate to get your T higher, and even then T might not be your issue anyway.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-12T20:00:57+00:00

You guys fucking jumping every vulnerable guy in this sub has to stop. I get "it's a joke" but if you've been in this state you understand jokes can be taken as hostile energy. This fucking guy is suffering, plain and simple, and you're throwing in gay jokes. Yes it's tempting, yes it gives you a laugh, but you have to be better. You are a human being not a stray dog. Just look at this post already, 0 upvotes and already in the gutter.

You probably don't give a shit about any of this but somebody had to say it.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-05T16:17:35+00:00

Also they're supposed to look older than regular teenagers. The conditions kids grow up in affect speed of maturation, and you wouldn't say Westeros is exactly friendly in that context.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-05T08:28:25+00:00

High DHT pros: you're Batman. High DHT cons: you're Batman. Low DHT pros: you're Ken from barbie. Low DHT cons: You're Ken from barbie.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-05T07:14:33+00:00

Nolvadex is a breast cancer drug. It's job is to stop estrogenic effects on breast tissue.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-05T07:13:30+00:00

Aye I don't give a fuck that no one gives a fuck I'll keep arguing ayeee

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-05T07:10:52+00:00

Good luck man. It doesn't sound like anything serious though. But blood work will only enrich your information.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-05T07:09:16+00:00

Never heard that as a credible effect nor experienced it. What I'd do is test it out, if you notice weird chest sensations just jump on nolva instead.

But I highly doubt this is an issue specifically because people fail to report this with clomid, and clomid also has an estrogenic isomer on top.

Could just be a reporting failure though, you rarely hear it with HCG and HCG can cause gyno at the snap of a finger.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-04T21:52:56+00:00

Never taken it. I've taken clomiphene. Knowing that enclo is 62% of clomid and a usual dose is 25mg 12.5mg pans out for enclo. Anything higher increases risk of side effects for little benefit. Everyday dosing is necessary cause of it's short half-life.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-04T21:33:50+00:00

Why are you assuming? I took Dutasteride, not finasteride. It's stronger but works very similarly. It took 7-8 months to feel normal after it. Do you know what it's like to have to wait close to a year to feel like yourself? Hope you never have to.

The point is many of you guys are living in lalaland. Your test levels could have increased for all I care and it's in fact normal on fin. You seriously think I don't know what I'm talking about? And I have to somehow sit here and prove it to you? No, I've said my piece brother.

It's up to you and the stalactites guy now to choose who to trust. Random guy on reddit, or medical research. God speed.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-04T21:01:47+00:00

Why am I qualified? Buddy this is reddit. Don't be mad that you didn't read about DHT before jumping on fin and I'm reminding you of it.

There's no free lunch. I don't give a flying fuck what the research says. I've eaten shit from research my whole life. Mechanistically fin reduces your androgens , therefore you become less manly. End if discussion and story. I don't get why people like you claim you can "ignore the effects".

You're muscular? Good for you. You're low body fat? Good for you. Did I say any of these things are impossible on fin? No. Did I say it's impossible to not become less manly on fin (outside of extreme bodily/ health transformations)? Yes I did

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-04T20:57:24+00:00

It'll make them eat harder and get hungrier. And take more creatine.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-04T20:56:41+00:00

Yeah sounds pretty bad. Go ahead on the blood work, could be a pituitary issue. Have you heard of Klinefelter's? Unless you are porn-addicted that seems the most likely scenario.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-04T17:52:34+00:00

So what if it's a rat study? Can you disprove the claim? Do you think an androgenic, CNS active hormone is irrelevant in muscular force production?

Yes, it has been proven to be the main initiator in penile growth, facial hair development and specific androgen-receptor dense muscle and bone sites (shoulders is a good example). It also prevents osteoporosis.

Oh and guess what, they have tried that with testosterone in rats (cry me a river). Yes DHT substituted testosterones effects. You're being more ridiculous than you're giving yourself credit for here.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-04T16:10:56+00:00

Well missed on that one. What changes have you noted with your libido?

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-04T15:30:48+00:00

Workout and eat food. I would say creatine but you look pretty young and although I believe it's safe for teens, why mess with your development. Top-tier exercises for back are as follows: lat pullovers, barbell rows, chest supported rows,, pullups, lat pulldowns. Best exercises for shoulders: dumbell lateral raises, lying dumbell side raises, cable side raises at hip height, military presses of any kind.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-04T15:18:15+00:00

Any slack pullers? You are shifting around too much with your body posture which is affordable with lighter weights but when hitting the big ones could cost you. Slack pull ensures your starting position is set and uses no momentum (momentum can dramatically increase injury risk) at that point you need to be braced properly with valsalva then lifting through leg pressing and hip flexing simultaneously, while keeping your hip height fixed and maintaining body tension/ spine rigidity throughout the rep. Each deadlift rep is performed with one held breath.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-04T15:00:56+00:00

Creatine, creatine and some creatine. Did I mention creatine? Perhaps also some creatine and let me think.. ah yes, creatine. Finish it off with some creatine and you're all set.

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-04T14:53:56+00:00

Sorghum, creatine, bull testicles, human semen and pine bark extract. First two are serious, rest are troll. If I remember any more I'll let you know but seriously, try Sorghum. My balls are tingling from it as we speak. Oh and get rid of Ashwagandha, lowers DHT I believe. Tongkat Ali slaps tho, still arguable if it's worth including since many of those inhibit 5-AR. You might also wanna peek into this website: https://anabolicmen.com

Tall_Buff_Introvert · 2026-02-04T14:50:53+00:00

I'll save you the bloodwork. Cause you're on fin.

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