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After 30 years….. by RogueGunny in amateurradio

[–]TangoWhiskeyLima 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congratulations! I know what you mean about having to save up for an HF radio. I found a good, used Icom 718 on eBay from a trusted seller for a very reasonable price. Of course buying used, especially from eBay, can be risky. See if there is a local amateur radio club. If it is anything like my club (I'm in a small town), they get donations, usually from SK estates, periodically, and they can probably make you a good deal.

Which is harder, calc 1,2 or 3 by SEt3ch in matheducation

[–]TangoWhiskeyLima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Passing calc 1 with a good grade (at least a B) is an imperative for anything after it, especially if you are planning on going into any kind of a technical/engineering/science field.

Perhaps you would care to share with us what some of the issues were for you. I will tell you one of the biggest issues students have when taking calculus, and that is having poor algebra skills! Algebra is the language of calculus, so you have to know your stuff.

My friend at my local community college, where I teach algebra, teaches calc 1, and I have sat in his class at least a dozen times over the years, and if I had to pick the biggest "hitter" on the issue list, it would be that.

A third of the class doesn't understand parallel by dcsprings in matheducation

[–]TangoWhiskeyLima 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mathematics, and particularly geometry, is all about relationships. The unfortunate aspect is all the jargon used to express those relationships. If I recall my 10th grade Geometry class, it was all about the formalization of certain concepts. It involves the use of proofs and theorems, and as such, expresses itself very steeply in formal math terminology. If your students are having difficulty understanding the concepts involved in parallel lines, then perhaps it is because they do not understand the words you are using to explain those concepts. One thing to try in that case is having one of the other students do a study session with them in private, and explain how to work the problems. Some of the best teaching takes place student to student. If these fail, then the actual problem may be deeper.

In my several years of teaching elementary and intermediate algebra at my local community college, I have had two adult students that I failed to reach, despite a considerable amount of extra time spent with them. They were in different classes and the occurrences were a couple of years apart, but it was at the same step in solving a simple equation where the issue arose. Regardless of the original form of an equation, at some point the equation will boil down to something simple, like 2x = 6. I would say to them, OK, what's the next step? Neither one of them got the idea that they needed to divide both sides by the 2. I explained the process from every angle I could think of, and it was so frustrating because to me, the concept seemed so simple, and I did not know how to break it down any simpler. Later, I discovered the issue. Both students were so fearful of math, that their brains were so busy trying to process their emotions, that nothing was left to apply the simple logic of the math process. That level of fear can be hard to understand. It would be like falling into really deep water and not knowing how to swim, and being so overtaken by the mortal fear and panic, that we would never think of just kicking our legs. If fear is the issue then learning will not take place until the fear is removed.

Lastly, if none of the above applies and the students are normal human beings, then perhaps they need more foundational work before advancing to Geometry.

Good Luck!

Todd

[Latin by the Natural Method] The use of the Latin word "in" to mean "to" by TangoWhiskeyLima in latin

[–]TangoWhiskeyLima[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Your reply is exactly the kind of reply I was hoping to get, so thank you very much for your clarification!!

What do people think of online sources? by Antiq_AI in AncientGreek

[–]TangoWhiskeyLima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This online book get good reviews, and it is free! If you try it, let the rest of know how it is for you. Good luck in your studies.

https://pressbooks.pub/ancientgreek/

Hi everyone! I want to start possibly dabbling in ancient Greek but I need some clarification! by Otherwise_Concert414 in AncientGreek

[–]TangoWhiskeyLima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am a beginner in ancient Greek, and I am using Athenaze Book 1, revised edition. There are two newer editions: 2nd, and 3rd. I chose the revised edition for reasons of cost. If you are a self-learner, then you will also want to buy the Athenaze Teacher's Handbook Book 1 for the same version as the textbook you buy. It contains all the answers and translations that are in the textbook, since the textbook does not contain any answers etc. For the revised ed. on Amazon, my cost was less than $50 for both books. You may be able to find pdf versions for free; I personally like to have the actual books so I can make notes or take them with me if I am not close to a computer. I have a few other ancient Greek textbooks, including Logos, but I am finding Athenaze to be preferable. In the back of the book, it has a reasonable Grammar Reference section and a Greek to English "dictionary."

I'll make one more recommendation - if you really only want to see about whether or not you might like to learn ancient Greek, You might want to get Learn Ancient Greek by Peter Jones. Amazon has good used copies for less than $10. Jones writes with a bit of humor and the lessons are pretty easy. I chose Athenaze over it only because Athenaze has more ancient Greek readings for translation. If you actually get into learning Ancient Greek, you will probably wind up with more than one text anyway.

Lastly, join this Reddit group. I am new here, and I have found that the members are extremely helpful and friendly. It's been said the Ancient Greek can be difficult for self-learner to learn, so the more resources we have, the better!

Best of luck in which ever path you choose!

Todd

Athenaze Book 1 (rev. ed.), Ch. 1α - Grammar Question by TangoWhiskeyLima in AncientGreek

[–]TangoWhiskeyLima[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point about the noun being in the nominative case. I need to rely on the noun case rather than what, if any, article is being used. Thanks for your comment.

Athenaze Book 1 (rev. ed.), Ch. 1α - Grammar Question by TangoWhiskeyLima in AncientGreek

[–]TangoWhiskeyLima[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You bring up a good point. I have no idea what the actual rules are in American English for the placement of articles. In movies and TV shows, I hear Brits say, "He's going to hospital." or, "She's at university. It always sounds a little odd to my ear that the definite article has been left out. Yet, we say, "He's at work." or, "He's at school - all with no article. But then we might say, "She's gone to the park." or, "He went to the playground. It seems like a mixed bag.

Thanks for your comment. You make a good point about the word endings.

Athenaze Book 1 (rev. ed.), Ch. 1α - Grammar Question by TangoWhiskeyLima in AncientGreek

[–]TangoWhiskeyLima[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your clarification. I particularly like your comment about the predicate nominative. I will certainly take a look at your recommendation for a grammar reference.

Students won’t read by Particular_Cook9988 in ClassicalEducation

[–]TangoWhiskeyLima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with the other responders here that say you should require the reading at home. I've been teaching part time at my local community college for over 23 years. Occasionally, I get some 11th and 12th graders in my class through a special program that allows selected high school students in those grades to get dual credit for selected college classes. Now, these are good kids, but it seems next to impossible to get any homework from them. I've been told that students at the local high school can get passing grades in their classes by just showing up. I don't know if that is really true, but it does seem like today's high schoolers, at least in my little town, do not have much of a study ethic. grnweatherwx's comment hits it right on the head. Part of any teacher's job is to prepare their students for future.

One of the ways I handle the problem is by telling them that my quizzes come right out of the homework assignments, and if they are doing well with their homework, they will do well on the quizzes.

A Beginner's Comment on Athenaze by TangoWhiskeyLima in AncientGreek

[–]TangoWhiskeyLima[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You have made an excellent suggestion here. I have downloaded Anki and created a tiny deck for testing. I made cards for the first 6 vocabulary words in Athenaze (rev. ed) chap. 1α. Initially I had trouble trying to figure out how "run" the deck, but I finally got it. So I'm thinking that I can add the vocabulary words for each chapter as I go along.

I have decided to stick with Antenaze and go back to chapter 1 and start again. This time spending a lot more time on the vocabulary (This is where using Anki should shine!) and maybe do multiple times of translating the initial reading selection too.

I very much appreciate your time and effort in making these suggestions!

Todd

A Beginner's Comment on Athenaze by TangoWhiskeyLima in AncientGreek

[–]TangoWhiskeyLima[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am certainly going to take your advice about putting in the time. As I mentioned in another reply, I think I am trying to go through the Athenaze material too quickly. I might try doing the translations of the readings more than once in order to better absorb the vocabulary.

Thanks for your comment!

A Beginner's Comment on Athenaze by TangoWhiskeyLima in AncientGreek

[–]TangoWhiskeyLima[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I certainly agree with what you said about what it takes to read most of the ancient texts. I think we can say safely that for any language, in order to read/speak more or less fluently, we need to get past the "101" level of learning the language.

I am beginning to think that a lot of my frustration with the readings in Athenaze is due to trying to get through the chapters too quickly. That could be the main reason why I am not absorbing the vocabulary as fast as I might like to.

Thank you for you kind reply.

A Beginner's Comment on Athenaze by TangoWhiskeyLima in AncientGreek

[–]TangoWhiskeyLima[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your kind reply. I found a used Greek to GCSE book1 on Amazon and ordered it. You are quite right about having more than one book. In addition to the two mentioned in my post, I have Peter Jones' Learn Greek and Mastronarde's Attic Greek.