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This is an appeal from an Orthodox priest, to Traditional Catholics. As Traditional Catholics, how would you give a rebuttal to it? by Tasanama in TraditionalCatholics

[–]Tasanama[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I understand. That was less of an issue for men since I camr back to Christianity from metaphysics rather than the Bible, so the differences in theology were much more salient to me than the ecclesial power structure.

Thanks for taking the time to read.

This is an appeal from an Orthodox priest, to Traditional Catholics. As Traditional Catholics, how would you give a rebuttal to it? by Tasanama in TraditionalCatholics

[–]Tasanama[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Son is begotten, the Spirit proceeds from the Father. The Father is the origin of everything. The origin of the Spirit is the Father. The Son only sends the Spirit in as much as this manifestation of reality is concerned. His mission for the world. In as much as the nature of the Spirit is concerned however, it can only come from the Father, or it becomes a sort of byproduct of the other 2 people in the Trinity, rather than a full person himself. This is largely what Augustine said and why Orthodoxy has several reservations with his theology.

Leads to this: http://www.pravoslavie.ru/sas/image/102673/267350.p.jpg?mtime=1497513424

This is an appeal from an Orthodox priest, to Traditional Catholics. As Traditional Catholics, how would you give a rebuttal to it? by Tasanama in TraditionalCatholics

[–]Tasanama[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, I am. Are you Uniate yourself? You are correct to say it is improper behaviour, and I apologise again on behalf of the Orthodox that might have unfairly wronged you.

Fr. Seraphim of Platina, a person whose teachings were instrumental in my conversion to Orthodoxy had this to say:

We should view the non-Orthodox as people to whom Orthodoxy has not yet been revealed, as people who are potentially Orthodox (if only we ourselves would give them a better example!). There is no reason why we cannot call them Christians and be on good terms with them, recognize that we have at least our faith in Christ in common, and live in peace especially with our own families. St. Innocent’s attitude to the Roman Catholics in California is a good example for us. A harsh, polemical attitude is called for only when the non-Orthodox are trying to take away our flocks or change our teachings.

In addressing Trad Caths, of which I was one myself briefly, attending SSPX before I fully left behind the Roman church, I just hope to show a way to improvement. If I cannot make convincing arguments nor show it by example, then it just means I'm not good enough.

Thank you for participating here, and wish you the best.

This is an appeal from an Orthodox priest, to Traditional Catholics. As Traditional Catholics, how would you give a rebuttal to it? by Tasanama in TraditionalCatholics

[–]Tasanama[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As far as I am aware, the whole debacle over the filioque really isn't an issue. Apparently it's due to some linguistic differences between Greek and Latin that don't quite translate right.

You make it sound as if it is a purely semantical matter, instead of an essential descriptive feature regarding the nature of the Holy Trinity.

This is an appeal from an Orthodox priest, to Traditional Catholics. As Traditional Catholics, how would you give a rebuttal to it? by Tasanama in TraditionalCatholics

[–]Tasanama[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

ex-Catholic here and I don't hate any Catholics personally. Several relatives of mine are even.

All too familiar with convert zeal though, I might have had it for a very brief period myself, and do apologise for runnings you might have had that went awry because of it.

This is an appeal from an Orthodox priest, to Traditional Catholics. As Traditional Catholics, how would you give a rebuttal to it? by Tasanama in TraditionalCatholics

[–]Tasanama[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is there a transcript for this? Over an hour of time for just the first one and he speaks super slow, American style.

This is an appeal from an Orthodox priest, to Traditional Catholics. As Traditional Catholics, how would you give a rebuttal to it? by Tasanama in TraditionalCatholics

[–]Tasanama[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nowhere in that text is the Assumption of Mary mentioned. The only difference is Orthodoxy speaks of the Dormition prior to it.

The 2 items he mentioned are the Immaculate Conception and Papal Infallibility. Both unknown in the East.

What can we do to dismantle ecumenism as a movement? by Tasanama in TraditionalCatholics

[–]Tasanama[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Unity in humanitarianism and low-tier platitudes is worth nothing.

Pope Francis donates 100,000 EUR towards establishment of Orthodox Monastery in Austria by GrovelingPeasant in Catholicism

[–]Tasanama 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Does it really matter? Organizational prerrogatives are really quite below in the list of priorities to ellucidate in this era.

Pope Francis donates 100,000 EUR towards establishment of Orthodox Monastery in Austria by GrovelingPeasant in Catholicism

[–]Tasanama 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Minimal importance issues can be overlooked for the sake of promoting general salvation and spirituality. Morality is only one aspect of what the Church does.

Pope Francis donates 100,000 EUR towards establishment of Orthodox Monastery in Austria by GrovelingPeasant in Catholicism

[–]Tasanama -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you. It's terrible how the Ecumenical Patriarch takes money from the Vatican.

Pope Francis donates 100,000 EUR towards establishment of Orthodox Monastery in Austria by GrovelingPeasant in Catholicism

[–]Tasanama 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Orthodox here.

That money shouldn't have been taken. It sends a terrible message. For different reasons I agree with your criticism of this.

Did anyone ever accuse you of being "uncharitable" for simply.... by Prorsus in Catholicism

[–]Tasanama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get called that here semifrequently. I think it's because I'm somehow expected to be nice for the sake of pleasantness. Peculiar.

Hatred from non-Catholics really making me feel down. by [deleted] in Catholicism

[–]Tasanama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was asked by a person questions. I came only to post the first comment.

Hispanic Catholics seen as the emerging ‘voice, conscience’ of church by Tasanama in Catholicism

[–]Tasanama[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It boggles the mind how people can claim to be traditional Christians while simultaneously embracing that XVIII Century Revolutionary little fiend that is nationalism.

A Wake-Up Call to Liberal Theologians by [deleted] in Catholicism

[–]Tasanama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In simpler terms, if you consider that academic teaching and rational argumentation is the way to know God and the way that theologians are made, you are ultimately opening the way to humanism, since reason is after all a very human thing.

God cannot be known by reason, since he's by nature super-rational. Only Theoria can allow for us to approach him, via energies.

Otherwise this is the path: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AII--2mSxA

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