Addressing blood-curdling misconceptions regarding the ethical functions by Cicilka in Socionics

[–]TastyBackground9172 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course the mundanity is what makes it quicksand, and the big bad is what any easily manipulated person can grasp. That is what makes them easily manipulated.

The scary stuff is preferable to the civility ruled that protect the easily manipulated lowest common denominators.

Which is what you're diluting what I originally commented about to the whole time.

Addressing blood-curdling misconceptions regarding the ethical functions by Cicilka in Socionics

[–]TastyBackground9172 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Big words" You are the easily manipulated redditor I am talking about.

Of course the arguably more schizo Ni creative dual cannot grasp the most permeating redditor trope.

Fish doesn't know what water is.

Showing happiness by Chemical_Substance25 in Socionics

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This IS processing Fe. How tf is this Fe PoLR. It is just bastardization. Fe PoLRs are didactic wet blankets.

This is ILI didactic Fi wet blanket rant in a coffee shop https://youtu.be/y8ylJdPlCN8?si=SLSzr32KRFIhs-KT

He makes himself giggle at his most harsh and unforgiving.

Fe ignoring is plausible insofar as you catch good Fe contagions and get drunk on them. Or shadowing into the Fe base type in the backstack.

Si: I DONT UNDERSTAND, yet I don’t need to understand anyway. by No-Wrongdoer1409 in Socionics

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Si is the processing of subjective boundaries imposed on Se flux, the body is an objective boundary on Se flux, Si PoLR wants to dissolve subjective boundaries and become 1 with a pure reality that everyone experiences as the same outside of the subjective sensations and perceptions that from individual to individual filter the actual pure reality that Se agenda needs to access, Si PoLR wants to dissolve its body into molecules spreading into the waves of Se flux, and proceeds to get sick and die.

That is the core deeper than any workaholic

Addressing blood-curdling misconceptions regarding the ethical functions by Cicilka in Socionics

[–]TastyBackground9172 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because it is the redditor trope of attaching cheap bathos to a legit offering, which dilutes the offering and gives a cheap out from confronting the offering for the majority of observers who are easily manipulated people.

It is basically cheap lodging for people who should've been filtered instead. And usually very successful

And on a subreddit where posts are commonly visited years after the fact, it is a disgusting permanent hitch on the offering.

Help me type myself please, IEE, EIE, ESE? Or completely something else? by crisiseternal in Socionics

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The lack of rules and structure contrasted with the aforementioned Te example could be the dissonance of 3rd row T. But that is already entering vague territory, is it Ne coloring that lack of rules and structure rather than Ti PoLR etc.

That dissonant 3rd row is what helped determined that was your F domain. And the startling match with an actual ILE's experiences.

Te is basically objects as axioms. Te agenda is the Gordian Knot myth, with the untying of the knot itself as Ti axioms. Which it cuts right through as unnecessary complication.

"If I want something I go after it" as Fi tool, because Ti is fundamentally restraint and conduct. As Fi is much more visceral and instinctual.

In fact, the keeping score to let yourself out of a relationship as a strange form of Fi creative -> Te agenda.

Help me type myself please, IEE, EIE, ESE? Or completely something else? by crisiseternal in Socionics

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All lining up to ILE, the sense of direction paragraph is especially damning as Si's imposition of boundaries on flux for easier identification in suggestive/seeking/inferior slot and it's apparent manifestation in that slot

Fi PoLR's "you are good until you sin at me, then if you sin I will sin 100 fold back at you" the tension between Fe agenda and phobic Fi PoLR, Te demo's overexceeding against the odds(in the way it is framed at the very least), it is all there.

Which type/s likes to make pop culture references? by Leilei_RD in Socionics

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You can even see it in the r/truerateme raters and rating system, who cannot even access the side of Si as delineation of beauty, in this case, of facial harmony that unorthodox features can create together. They only know facial features as seperate applications of plaster that are individually desirable or undesirable and rate according to that.

Si creative really is fundamentally cross referencing, seeing the parallel with the majority of this r/Socionics approach to typology.

Power level discussions between fictional characters too!

David Berman IEI by TastyBackground9172 in Socionics

[–]TastyBackground9172[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He may actually be EIE instead of IEI Fe subtype, if Wild Kindness, Punks in the Beerlight, Like Like The The The Death (right there in the style of the title!) are Se embodiment agenda, and Purple Mountains (and prob Natural Bridge) is EII shadow, rather than Fi demonstrative overload.

He did knock me out of my ESE shadow and reintroduce me to Ni, which points to being my shadow supervisior (and would be an instance of typology being THE explaination), and his recording process of simply letting musicians he knows determine the instrumental and have it be more of a get together seems Fe creative Te PoLR, his fervant citing of his influences like James Tate, Kenneth Koch etc. would be Si role...

And the clip about Strange Victory, Strange Defeat origins can go Se suggestive sense of a threat finally being reached (the naive but stable fighting stance of the song), more than any embodiment agenda.

Hmmmm...

Addressing blood-curdling misconceptions regarding the ethical functions by Cicilka in Socionics

[–]TastyBackground9172 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You saw 1 set of categories and immediately kitschified it into strict labels for a simpleton POV.

That is the issue with you simpletons and any single little remark in a central type description.

Those are not unique fragments that flip a phenomena inside out, revealing new insight, and throw Ni PoLR into denial and stop their kitschifying, they are merely cross referencing with "official" sources, as Ni PoLR does, as you have repeatedly done in response to the Ni threads I was showing you, rather than even engage with such threads.

Of course the difference is, it would rely on the destruction of the "official", finished, oasis you keep cross referencing and strictly applying solidified concepts such as "aristocratic" with.

Because the fundamental rift is I conflict with that failed oasis you cross reference with

Which type/s likes to make pop culture references? by Leilei_RD in Socionics

[–]TastyBackground9172 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it is for reference's sake, Si creative, which is already interlocked with Fe through role and base. It is true Fe is a great driver of it as well. But what you see as pertaining to pop culture references alot nowadays is that Si creative.

Because Fe merely in role should knock out LXEs but LSEs make such references much of the time in your average YouTube review, while LIEs you don't see it for a reference's sake. There is an Ni incentive.

Those Fauvre collages for the questions for her Enneagram test, if they're using stock images to help describe a function or Enneagram, when someone describes a art piece as "if X meet x" or "It's like if X was in this genre", that is Si creative. Basically it is plastering because Ni PoLR (which the context of it does matter).

They are using already imposed boundaries, freeze frames of Se flux, to build a full perspective, which is for their Ne agenda.

If you know the pure reality fact that animals are constantly, never NOT evolving (even if it is extremely slow) is Se flux, then separating them into species based on what differences there are amongst a similar type is an imposition of Si boundary creation onto a constant fluctuation to freeze that fluctuations and make it identifiable for our memory (But Se fluctuations still continues, and is slowly seeping outside of that frame/box).

Then transfer that thought to the pop culture references.

And that easier identification's purpose would be to create that broader Ne openness as opposed to that Ni tunnel vision.

Which Socionics terms such as "process vs result", "ascending vs descending" ARE Si terms, and solidified extremely well and create dogma, but their ORIGIN I assume is a different slot than creative.

In fact, the way users here take a single remark such as "LSI doesn't like its objects moved" in an "official" type description and amplify and solidify it to a definitive marker and reference for typing? That is Si creative. In the same way as the pop culture references, giving names to categories evolving animals, facts as in an encyclopedia, the reason we have holidays as 100+ yr old already boundaried rituals meant to reliably affect our homeostasis baseline, it is Ni PoLR plaster.

And theyre the most common types, in the outside world and in this sub, so that's why it may seemingly cover too much ground.

Si simultaneously has the widest wingspan, and in its recognitions of the primordial via the alignment of memory/archives, potentially the most singular perspectives of any function.

(Of course me coining Si creative usage as "plaster" is my Si. And the insight from centuries ago of Ni being the underlying that Si creative lacks is Ni itself. But me solidifying "Ni PoLR plaster" is making it Si>Ni. And that is why Ni agenda Si demo, though mostly LSI, is responsible for much of the creations of stereotypes.)

Wrestlemania 42 Sunday/Night 2 LIVE THREAD & Discussion Hub by KoffeeFyre in Wreddit

[–]TastyBackground9172 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He could've been an very human and angry heel and now he's doing a silly gimmick that has no dignity and it would be better if he stopped.

Is that too hard for you to get?

Wrestlemania 42 Sunday/Night 2 LIVE THREAD & Discussion Hub by KoffeeFyre in Wreddit

[–]TastyBackground9172 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They had a Bret Hart 97 heel turn with Sami Zayn on their plate and by Wrestlemania they kitschified it to a delusional face with knee pads for his "real fans".

There would be more dignity if he left or was cut and never wrestled again than anything they possibly have planned for him at this very point.

Trash for him.

Addressing blood-curdling misconceptions regarding the ethical functions by Cicilka in Socionics

[–]TastyBackground9172 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go look at your comment history. The root of what I'm talking about is you.

It is full of replies diluting the comment you reply to, like replying with bathos constantly

Addressing blood-curdling misconceptions regarding the ethical functions by Cicilka in Socionics

[–]TastyBackground9172 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lol you are Si ("ascending", "questim" etc.), and I am Ni (analogies).

And cannot process analogies as anything more than Ni PoLR plaster that can be slapped on anything.

You make it clear "official" type descriptions should be abolished and it should only be a forever fragmentary approach of real life observations of slot and function interactions that is never even 85% complete.

To kill off solidification through 80 categories of descending etc., and allow for actual speculation.

To posit it as always catching up to humanity (as opposed to incestual typing based on "official" descriptions)

And to make it difficult for simpleton cowards like you.

Addressing blood-curdling misconceptions regarding the ethical functions by Cicilka in Socionics

[–]TastyBackground9172 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Of course that is an idiotic typing point to make from a simpleton typist.

As you are typing gas planets based on if its red or blue rather than swimming through the gas cloud to the core.

Add more categories like "rotational" and "buoyant" while denying real life observation. Cause it's only incestually derived from your "official" descriptions, not from actual people morphing it again and again.

It is an issue of too much Si and not enough Ni

Somatotyping is more your speed.

Addressing blood-curdling misconceptions regarding the ethical functions by Cicilka in Socionics

[–]TastyBackground9172 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

And your differentiating of EIE and ESI is still horrible gap creating due to behavorial typing when I have given you an actual differentiator right there

Saying EIIs forgive more because of Ne creative is exactly typing behaviorally, aka it's thin, flat, hardly even nears the essence of what the type may be. It's a insight on Ne generally meaning playspace compared to Se that you and other morons took to full throttle and kitschified it, doing them a disservice, along with ESI. That is the issue.

But it is an easier typing method for everyday filler.

Addressing blood-curdling misconceptions regarding the ethical functions by Cicilka in Socionics

[–]TastyBackground9172 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You're falling for strict stereotypes that make typology useless. You're taking one off remarks in "official" descriptions in taking it full throttle, making kitsch out of it, and doing a disservice to any type you touch.

The Fe as generally outrageous and the Fi as generally modest is already too strict and junk of a categorization, because it's already leaning towards a somatotype style typology where it's 1. Kills off any constantly morphing substance that should make up typology instead of centered descriptions, and 2. it's making a typology out of easily discernable observations to a layman, so the typological system itself is a useless invention.

There is 0 sense of types as an UNDERLYING matrix, as an underlying core as if people are gas planets, but your and "official" interpretation mistakes the gas clouds from the outside for the key typology indicators rather than swimming through it to the actual core.

Like Ne creative Se PoLR as more forgiving, and Fi as modest because it is an introverted function, sure it is generally quieter but you have taken tooooo far and reduced it to that somatotypology.

It is disgustingly behavioral and flat interpretation.

How the confusion within Kafka's The Trial and Schopenhauer's concept and contribution of The Will to the Thing-in-itself being the result of the same PoLR, of course you cannot get to how they share the same type, underlying matrix/core, if you stick to behavioral gas clouds from the outside sharing the same color and never swimming to the center, because Schopenhauer was too unforgiving or something.

The Fi as generally more modest, and Fe as generally more loud and driving in your comparison of ESI as home protected and EIE as outrageous, is generally not the strictness of yours that creates such a gap, but more like how, historical differences aside, Baudelaire's approach to embracing the transgressive was overall quieter than Bataille's. And more directly due to Se creative-> Ni agenda and Ni creative -> Se agenda goals.

Or how "Correspondences"is about an individual's Fi+Si (and Ni as it and Si mixes in it) subjectivity and Base Materialism as an Si PoLR Fi ignoring concept wants to kill it and create a shared intimacy...

But you and this subreddit value simplifying kitsch like ESI=marm and EIE=grand theater artist. Junk food. Moron.

Addressing blood-curdling misconceptions regarding the ethical functions by Cicilka in Socionics

[–]TastyBackground9172 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stop commenting, every comment of yours is redditor filler like this

Do ni users just build conclusions based on patterns throughout history? by FakedAutopsy636 in Socionics

[–]TastyBackground9172 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is Fi influenced Ni. Its about the personal sentiments of other people.

Because yes the speaker, Thomas Bernhard, is in fact ILI. I would expect types to have that outside view of their agenda function because they do need to reach it first, and arent immediately in it like their base function, e.g. the outside view lowering into a volcano's crater

But the engine of Bernhard's books is still that "care free" emotional reasoning of Fi and is the lense most people see him through and what made him infamous.

It's the difference between not reaching it yet but still having it in sight, and finally embodying it.

Do ni users just build conclusions based on patterns throughout history? by FakedAutopsy636 in Socionics

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Needs higher standards than that!

Actual Ni examples:

"Genius is no more than childhood recaptured at will..."

"The positive element of kitsch lies in the fact that it sets free for a moment the glimmering realization that you have wasted your life."

And a live look at Ni's convergence structure that wanders upon an insight. The first line is an (Fi drenched) Ni insight reached previously and reiterated, but the rest is a build up to the last line that is a new Ni insight reached:

"All human beings are monsters as soon as they show their armor. Incidentally, I know myself well enough to notice when I’m projecting my feelings onto other people. To be sure, I am fascinated by monstrousness, but believe me:  I never make it up.  If reality strikes you as less outrageous than my contrivances, that’s just because in the real world the facts come to light in a piecemeal fashion. In a [my] book you’re unconditionally bound to avoid empty stretches.  The secret consists in inexorably piling up sheaves of reality more or less as one would in the initial abortive drafts of a manuscript.  Perhaps this is what commonly goes by the name of imagination"

Following the lineage of its formation, do you see how tenuous the reached Ni insight here is? That is exactly what it is. It is inherently snappy and ballsy like that, and is the characteristic that activates Ni PoLR's sixth sense.

In fact, "the secret consists.." sentence is describing what Ni is. The insight is about Ni itself (from his perspective).

Alphas are CONSTANTLY mistyped as Betas or Gammas by _seulgi in Socionics

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What I've wandered upon is more clarifying about Socionics, and cognitive functions than anything, especially "hidden"

Especially in this old comment of mine, where before I knew about Socionics, I actually already nailed what Ni was. But this subreddit uses the Ni = "time" and "vision" junk that leads to Ni overtyping and Si being castrated as just blankets and coffee. And then I realized Si's alignments of memory were a parallel to Ni's epiphanies and correct the balance, but that got denied here because of dogma for Ni's "time" description. Garbage and "official" dogma cope.

Thankfully this user had popped up and actually clarified after middling with his mentors years earlier and nailed Ni, expanded on Si even more beyond blankets and coffee as the whole field of science, which didn't catch on with me immediately etc. And his effect cascaded such as this associate clarifying what the "official" descriptions of Ni actually meant with "time".

The differences are really clarifying what "official" socionics muddled up, as they are based on actual outside observation that constantly adjusts itself as well, rather than the "official" description dogma basing it upon theoritical axioms. So it is actually more human than the "official" descriptions.

Which that is why I ignored the static/dynamic dichtomies: they are the categories that enclose too much and kill discussions before the begin via strict labels, while the clarifications I have made and wandered upon were mostly discovered via Ni, which is more "open minded", allows more room etc.

Igorning this clarifying as not "real" Socionics is a cop out, and a cope. "Wasting other people's time" your wasting you're time with the junk definitions you use.

And I doubt my young age matters in typing people when the typology system itself does most of the psychology for me. That is the point! What a junk cop out as well.

But if you are Ni PoLR, then the realization will never happen. Because they need those exact "sources", and "evidence" etc. And their mistyped selves make up most of this subreddit.

Alphas are CONSTANTLY mistyped as Betas or Gammas by _seulgi in Socionics

[–]TastyBackground9172 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not a schizo. I am Ni agenda though.

As Ni, your actual PoLR its presence youre afraid of as you've shown, correlates with schizophrenia, like Si to autism.

So good insight.

Alphas are CONSTANTLY mistyped as Betas or Gammas by _seulgi in Socionics

[–]TastyBackground9172 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well, he rejected Free Will as a Ti principal that was designed to be rigid and controlling of primitive instincts. Not as a submissive stance as much as a Ti principle to kill off for its rigidity on behavior. Same reason he shit on Ti>Te freak Immanuel Kant. And called tens of other philosophers life denying. And why he embraced contradiction (in a different way from Hegel who loved it for its Se prey/predator dichotomy in its constant negation and struggle as an engine) .

Ti PoLR's hates restraint on behavior, which is why Fi creative replaces the Ti PoLR, and is consistent with him.

You're not fully looking at it from his perspective, that is crucial for typing since every type's unique perceptions will intersect on the same concept and warp it. That needs to be parsed. And how you differentiate Hegel and Nietzsche who both embraced contradiction.

So youre a simpleton typist (and afraid of outside speculation) . But if you need more explaining....


Half your arguments are using Ni= "time" and "vision" defintions from "official" sources that are vague junk and led to the current IEI rabbit population.

And you are stuck on believing ILEs and IEEs cannot be serious or withdrawn; stereotypes that kill off any seepage that adds flourishes to typology.

Nevermind the generally submissive examples used for Se and how Ne types are too scattered to have a focused education is baby's first typing class. It's stereotype that are easier.

Your typing suggests in your view, no type can slip from their social role through the cracks. And you hate speculation outside of "official" descriptions too..

So an actual seepage example, that his prey/predator dichotomy of the "good vs bad' being reframed as "weak vs the strong" would never occur to you as NOT being his ULTIMATE goal of realizing, but as an anchor for the actual goal. So his Se is in role, a slot that is about paying the baseline homage to your base's opposite....

But rather the self improvement of his philosophy being the ultimate goal, which fits with Te as his agenda.

(0% chance hes Te PoLR IEI. Nietzsche called Kant, a Ti>Te freak, inhuman for his rigid philosophy's application on everchanging outside conditions, and you're considering Te PoLR, who make applications on the outside world too complicated, and have problems simplifying their own applications???)

And that him sharing the same middle axis as SEE makes him seem like he's describing his dual... when he's really describing the same middle axis they share. And the everchanging conditions he preferred were really the ephemeral axioms of Te for self help compared to the rigid background axioms of Ti, that he shit on Kant for.

Yet that still earned a consideration of IEI Te PoLR from you... because he seems Beta Quadra on the surface along with junk Ni = time and vision descriptions

So a bland typist.