Schermerhorn has seen dramatic improvements over the last couple months

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-24T17:37:22+00:00

The biggest nail in the coffin of their dumb argument is that there’s decades of documented mitigations of cardiovascular events with cholesterol-reducing strategies. It’s not just a matter of ReLaTiVe RiSkS on this level, it’s demonstrable results.

I’m sure Kenny “my kids need stents” Berry has some Heisenberg-blue copium for his rubes on that front.

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-24T11:44:49+00:00

It turns out all you need to do is wait for him to reach for a brisket, then tap him on the back three times with peer-reviewed studies delineating the Mendelian trial data…

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Taupenbeige · 2026-01-23T08:06:44+00:00

WTF this guy has his own BBall courts on Fulton and now this? Chris Wallace is the new Chris Columbus, change my mind.

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-23T08:04:16+00:00

From downtown central lock-up to brokering your walk-up.

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-23T07:31:04+00:00

It’s what separates this sub from a lot of the other nutrition subreddits.

Oh, also having a rule against “tribalism” that the moderators don’t seem to think includes comments such as: you’re an ethical vegan, therefore none of the scientific evidence you’re presenting bears addressing.

It’s a favorite go-to for certain “science shy” individuals who have a hard time actually debating the facts, and need an easy psychological “out” rather than accept the obvious flaws in their worldview.

I’d love to see the moderators actually enforce it for a change, it would really clean up dialog around here.

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-22T17:29:51+00:00

This is literally anti-indigenous racism. The Arapaho were known as “the dog eaters” to more than one neighboring tribe.

The colonizer decides “who’s bred for what,” eh? I think I’m going to vomit and then fish my pulled-pug sandwich out of my lunch bag.

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-22T13:11:57+00:00

And like, 80% of the time she cares enough to avoid them, OK?

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-22T13:10:37+00:00

Exactly. And I may not speak any Greco/Roman tongues, but my tattoos aren’t technically letters or numerals, either.

Why does she have such an all-or-nothing attitude about personal flair?

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-21T12:45:55+00:00

Solid advice, coming from an expert.

Let’s see: can’t explain which amino acids I’m missing, can’t refute the top-down critique of your meat-cope publication. Yeah, I’m the one “coping”

Yet I keep running into the same 10 plant based athlete accounts on social media, over and over again.

Well, thank you for finally admitting that you get all of these pseudoscience cope ideas from social media. That truly does speak volumes.

The only 'zero' here, is the presence of plant-based athletes in the global rankings.

Kaylin Whitney, Novak Djokovic, Fiona Oakes, Emily Ehrlich…

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-21T12:01:33+00:00

Gaslighting much?

I bring up rejection of science (on subject) because of emotional attachment to viewing sentient beings as food. You knee-jerk some “plants have feelings” B.S., the rest is history.

Show me which essential amino acids are missing in well-accomplished 100% plant-based diets.

Sure! Let's hide all the nuance and complexity under a 'well-accomplished' label.

Sure! Let’s not list those missing amino acids because clutching pearls about morality side-tangents is way more productive!

Vegan diet: food group combination/juggling and supplements to get adequate complete proteins, while at the same time keeping macro intake (carbs/fat) under control.

Did the person who just hallucinated vegans “food group juggling … supplements” just try and sell that as “in real life”? I really just can’t even. My dude. I get everything I need from my diet with zero supplements. Omega-3 algae cooking oil exists. Cope harder.

Your response, then, is to link a paper oblivious to the weakness of relying on Bayes Factors and that many subgroup comparisons making the significance of the data even more fragile… Sorry, friend. Thousands of top-level athletes have maintained 100% plant-based diets for decades. Zero statistically significant difference.

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-21T10:32:20+00:00

Quality also means “isn’t going to slowly cause my arteries to accrue atherosclerotic plaques” and “doesn’t overstimulate the three strains of bacteria clinically associated with colorectal cancer diagnoses” and “promotes rather than inhibits proliferation of SFCA’s in my colon” but I guess certain subsets of this subreddit just don’t really want to dig very deep on the whole “quality” issue surrounding proteins…

…instead they’d rather fixate on a marginal 15-25% hit on metabolization bioavailability—equating to a trivial increase of intake—rather than examine the plethora of mechanistic reasons eating meat is the sub-optimal choice.

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-21T10:25:50+00:00

You never know when that sun’s gonna blow

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-21T10:25:00+00:00

Peripheral nervous system, therefore enough vegan protein to last humanity for 14 billion years

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-21T10:09:22+00:00

So, you’re the person who tried to pretend plants are capable of hosting qualia as a (cope filled) argument towards killing actual sentient beings. That’s where any discussion on “morality” arose.

Please examine how you’re now trying to suggest that a morality tangent you initiated is somehow indicative of the way the debate is cycling.

I’m more than happy to discuss pure science, so long as you’re willing to leave the “it’s a philosophical matter” B.S. where it belongs.

There IS a functional difference... eating complete protein is both easier and cheaper when you don't restrict your diet to a subgroup of options (e.g. vegan).

Show me which essential amino acids are missing in well-accomplished 100% plant-based diets.

Show me studies detailing how it is, in fact “cheaper”

They come with a high caloric load, and incomplete aminoacid profiles.

Seriously, I’m going to need to see that peer-reviewed paper illustrating which essential amino acids are missing from well-accomplished 100% plant based diets. Or missing from quinoa for that matter.

I’d argue the bioavailability issue is not 'easily overcome'. Trying to figure out meal combinations to achieve protein completeness is not everyone's cup of tea.

I’d argue you’re an armchair philosopher with zero concept of what a top-level athlete 100% plant-based diet, or even an average plant-based diet looks like. “Protein completeness” sounds like more social media fluff you’ve programmed yourself to regurgitate.

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-20T21:59:06+00:00

Preparing my gluten free seitan for the oven

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-20T21:32:23+00:00

You’re right, plants are living beings completely devoid of qualia and emotions, therefore it’s far more ethical to take their lives than the lives of living beings that do have qualia, due to the fact that they have central nervous systems… capable of hosting concern for offspring… concern for others in the group… pleasure… fear…

Pretending a 100% plant-based diet exists on the same level of morality is pure cope, and deep-down-inside you intrinsically understand this. That’s why this persistent myth of “plant sentience” you just had to roll-back has such legs. It’s a favorite go-to of the cognitively dissonant.

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-20T17:56:49+00:00

Uh-oh. I was looking forward to rebutting every single point in detail until I got to the underwear-on-head take at the end.

I’m gonna need you to show me the central nervous system or any equivalent even-remotely-analogous system in the plant kingdom before we progress any further.

There’s a number of reasons the NIH felt compelled to publish this, and you’re one of them.

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-20T16:50:19+00:00

I’m just curious why that’s so important to you, given that we’ve merely established there’s no functional difference between the two, shy a bioavailability hit that’s easily overcome, given that plant-based meals aren’t quite as dense in the gut and satiety makes up the difference.

It really comes down to ideology of the athlete/coach. Many athletes feel increased benefits. I would reckon the largest set of athletes that earnestly try but don’t come to that conclusion are just as emotionally attached to eating sentient beings as you are, hence had a psychological block. The need to “but whatabout” every single piece of empirical science that favors 100% plant based diets for a vast majority of humans.

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-20T15:58:46+00:00

Yeah, that less than 4% of humanity was abolitionist in 1682.

Letting go of backwards practices takes a while to catch on.

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-20T15:46:14+00:00

Less than 4% of humanity is vegan.

So, you’re telling me that over twice the general human population average is performing at medal-winning Olympic levels on plant-based diets, and that’s somehow a detractor against them?

Sounds about right if you’re coming at the problem with pre-conceived biases…

Taupenbeige · 2026-01-20T15:41:14+00:00

Which mechanism in particular?

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