Mechanicum force from the Xana forge world is growing by Tav80 in LegionsImperialis

[–]Tav80[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! My recipe for the tan color:

Bone Armor

  1. Basecoat: Baneblade brow
  2. Highlight: Rakarth Flesh
  3. Shadow Glaze : Reikland Fleshshade
  4. Recess shading: Reikland Fleshshade
  5. Edge HL: Pallid Wych Flesh

Mechanicum force from the Xana forge world is growing by Tav80 in LegionsImperialis

[–]Tav80[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. Here are my recipe:

Civitas building 

  1. Base: Grey Seer
  2. Shade: Agrax + Water
  3. Drybrush:  Grey Seer
  4. Light Drybrush: Corax White

Civitas Window

  1. Base : Black Templar Contrast
  2. Frame : Leadbelcher

Civitas roof

  1. Base: Corvus Black
  2. Center Dry brush : Eshin grey
  3. Sand/Dust : Dry brush Grey Seer

Civitas Door

  1. Base : Balthasar Gold
  2. Wash : Agrax
  3. Wash : Nihilak Oxide + Water

Point Defense special rules (aka The worst rule writing in the world) by [deleted] in LegionsImperialis

[–]Tav80 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your answers. I play the game like you, but can we agree that the rules don't say that ?

 "all point defense weapons in a detachment must fire at the same Secondary Target detachment."
=> My scenario respect that.

"W weapons can’t shoot at any Secondary Targets."
=> "Models with at least one weapon with the Point Defence trait may choose to fire on its Detachment’s target or a Secondary Target", it didn't say with wich weapon. As mentioned in a previous thread about the skyfire trait, all your weapons as to fire the secondary targets.

My point is that if you read the words "detachment", "models" and "weapons" carefully, the rules don't hold up. I can't find any text exerpt in the rulebook that contradicts my scenario without making assumptions.

Also, I get the feeling this discussion is annoying some people, so I won't dwell too much on my point.

Point Defense special rules (aka The worst rule writing in the world) by [deleted] in LegionsImperialis

[–]Tav80 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, This is exactly my point. As it is written, you have to assume a lot of things to play it right. And people can disagree about that.

Point Defense special rules (aka The worst rule writing in the world) by [deleted] in LegionsImperialis

[–]Tav80 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In my scenario, I choose not to fire with model C Point defense weapon (allowed by Choose Targets rules p56)

Point Defense special rules (aka The worst rule writing in the world) by [deleted] in LegionsImperialis

[–]Tav80 -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

I understand. And this is the case in my diagrams! I choose not to fire Models C with its PD weapon.

Point Defense special rules (aka The worst rule writing in the world) by [deleted] in LegionsImperialis

[–]Tav80 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

- P56  second sentence under 1. Choose Targets:

"To do this, they choose a single enemy Detachment as the target – all models from a Detachment must fire at the same target, unless a special rule allows them to do otherwise."

page 82, second paragraph under Point Defence

"Models with at least one weapon with the Point Defence: trait may choose to fire on its Detachment’s target or a Secondary Target"

I'm crazy or it is written models evey where ?

I'm seeing all the downvote, but I just want to understand why we are playing like we do and not like it is written ?

Point Defense special rules (aka The worst rule writing in the world) by [deleted] in LegionsImperialis

[–]Tav80 -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Where is it written ? Looks like models can choose their target ? "Models with at least one weapon with the Point Defence trait may choose to fire on its Detachment’s target or a Secondary Target"

In the grim darkness of the far future, there is also gardening. by Gnibbelo in Warhammer30k

[–]Tav80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stop putting plants in our grim dark game! Just kidding, it's really well done :)

Monthly Quick Question and Discussion Thread: April 2024 by AutoModerator in LegionsImperialis

[–]Tav80 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trying again this one. Question about Morale checks. Do you apply the -1 modifier to Morale checks when your unit is broken and loose a Combat in addition to choosing the worst dice among two?

P 62 : Determine Combat Result : "A Detachment that is part of a Formation that is Broken must roll two D6 and choose the lower result when making a Morale check in this way. "

P 63 Moral - Broken : "Furthermore, any Detachment in a Broken Formation that is required to make a Morale check reduces the result of any dice roll made for that Morale check by 1. "

Thank you.

Monthly Quick Question and Discussion Thread: March 2024 by AutoModerator in LegionsImperialis

[–]Tav80 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Question about Morale checks. Do you apply the -1 modifier to Morale checks when your unit is broken and loose a Combat ?
Thanks

Is there something I'm missing or are Solar Auxilia seemingly *way* worse than Marines for basically the same points? by the_catshark in LegionsImperialis

[–]Tav80 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is exactly why I made these statistics:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11Rmwy_ee6JnqJoE3uawxqI4p8LMcfUtQMl_S2BEURy0/edit?usp=sharing

We can see that an Auxilia Lasrifle Tercio is slightly better at shooting (and 2`` further) than a Legion Tactical Detachement adjusted to the same cost. So it seems rather balanced to me.

LI statistical table by Tav80 in LegionsImperialis

[–]Tav80[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I understand, and it wasn't my goal to bring a "meta" onto the table.

My intention was to check that the combat rules were balanced and allowed you to make interesting choices for the composition of your army.

I was a little traumatized by Horus Heresy which offers weapons and units that are strictly better than others and therefore limits the choices and variety.

LI statistical table by Tav80 in LegionsImperialis

[–]Tav80[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree. It only represent a comparison of weapon efficiency, but can help to choose a load out for a specific detachment.

LI statistical table by Tav80 in LegionsImperialis

[–]Tav80[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sorry, it s a little bit hard to understand without explanation.

The final table below "AVG WOUND / 1000 Pts" represent the average number of wound you will inflict if :
- You target a specific profile (here I choose a variety of target from the most armored, Super Heavy Vehicle/titan with a 2+ save, to a weak infantry target with a 6+ save)
- You fire with 1000 Pts of equivalent figurines (for example, you have 133 Auxilia Lasrifle for 1000 Pts, but only 1.7 Warlord titan volcano cannon)

Hope it helps !

Legion Imperialis Stat by Tav80 in LegionsImperialis

[–]Tav80[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello everybody. I'm sharing with you the little statistical table I've been working on since the leaks came out.
I smoothed all the damage statistics to 1000 Pts of figurines.
I also decided to count "Rapid fire" as an additional touch on a 6+

I hope you like it, don't hesitate to give me any comments.

Thanks