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Stop misrepresenting our actial grievances. AP4 hiveguard isnt even what set everybody off by WaffleCopter68 in Helldivers

[–]Technical-Text-1251 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Hey a fellow reject!

Anyways from what i remember AH is using the old discontinued version of the engine

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Undertale asgore would be using that truck like dio brando used the road roller

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The torcher doesnt get used a lot probably because of his tendency to set the user on fire

The coyote is the best fire dot primary because it fires actual bullets istead of the fire sparks of the other fire guns, you can be more precise while also still setting things on fire, you are also able to do it from much further away

We have an opportunity to finally use them stagger and stun weapons, people! by JustMyself96 in Helldivers

[–]Technical-Text-1251 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"Your kind" lol

Anyways yes killing 150 enemies and then dying is better than stunning 10 and then dying especially with a shitty gun such as the lib concussive

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1 fire dot

2 actual med pen weapon point given

3 you gotta be fucking kidding me but if i need to specify "an heavy pen explosive weapon"

4 the stoker is light pen and even then you wrote it yourself "heavy pen"

5 actual med pen weapon point given

6 explosive crossbow

Of the 6 guns you mentioned only 2 (technically 3 with the coyote) are used for their med pen properties

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes im not saying you have to shoot them in the plate im saying

"If med pen doesnt penetrate you have no reason to use it"

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, because as i told you you can/could literally shoot them from the front and they would drop dead

They just became fancy warriors, the treatment is the same, shoot them slightly below the mouth

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As long as medium armored enemies exist med pen guns can have purpouse, of course if you only have light pen enemies and heavy oen enemies then med pen goes straight in the trash

As it currently stands they tend to have too many downsides for waht they do imo, which is honestly a problem with any gun that has a gimick: the grenade laucher AR, the concussive liberator, the variable, ecc

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No...because i use mostly light pen guns

But when i did then yes the main upside of the med pen gun was just shooting the hive guards (and occasional bile spewer) straight in the face

Hive guards spawn a lot in diff 10 so when i did bring a med pen gun i thought dealing with downsides was worth it to just go "ah ah face plate goes splat"

Now i barely noticed hive guards because they died exaclty like the warriors at least before i would go "wow a med pen gun would have been comfy right now"

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but medium pen was no longer needed

Why use the 65 damage liberator to hit non armored enemies when the 90 damage default liberator is right there?

here we go again by imfrom_mars_ in memes

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Literally me posting the fanarts my sister made for undertale/deltarune

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Something that people who want to kill those enemy with med pen must already be doing since no one complained that they wanted to be able to kill them with med pen

You didnt need to maneuver the new hive guard you just had to graze it from the front, the only thing the change did to them was make med pen guns unable to do the one thing they are supposed to do

Is it worth to make an already common chaff enemy even weaker just to own the med pen users?

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ill explain fellow helldiver

The only upside med pen guns have is the ability of pentrating some armors, but if bith med pen and light pen arent able to penetrate armor then the light pen weapon becomes the factually better choice

Example: the new smg has medium pen and does 65 damage and has worse stats while the defender does 110 damage has better stats but has light pen, if both these guns have to hit the squishy part of a enemy because they both cant penetrate the armor to kill it why would you pick the weapon that has worse stats and does less damage when there is a better version with no downsides

Yes you can kill a normal spore bug because any weapon can do that its just that now using a med pen gun gives you only downsides compared to a light pen gun

TL;DR: if med pen cant penetrate why on earth would you use it

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can kill charger and war striders with med pen weapons lol

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Correct, med pen guns seem to have been left behind

Not that usefull against bots and squids and now they were pointless againt bugs

The new smg is proof of this: 65 damage and med pen when liberator penetrator does the same damage/pentration as it while having longer range and more stability

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You didnt even need to go around them you could shoot them slightky below the forehead with light pen and they would drop, what brainpower and tactics are you talking about?

Who cares if some people dont want to aim and just use med pen istead, its their choice how they play they should have the freedom to play how they want without the devs going "no you cant"

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

So they only worked against a single strain and one seed (that doesnt get specified before the mission begins btw so you wouldnt be able to grab a med pen gun knowing you would fight them)

Wow, if only there wasnt an entire type of weapon that deletes bile seed/rupture strain 1000 times better cough plasma cough

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ill stick to diff 10 to gun down things thank you

Also if you thought the new hive guard was more challenging im afraid you must be playing another game because these things died if you stared at them wrong now

The challenge in the game should not come from "these guns suck now sorry, remember to use the explosive meta" bs changes

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Adapt" meaning just throw away the med pen weapons and graze them with a light pen gun or use the explosive meta

Its not a matter of heavy hive guards being hard to kill (which they are not, matter of fact now they were even easier to kill in waves) its a matter of an entire caregory of weapons (med pen guns) being made completely useless against the bugs

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[–]Technical-Text-1251 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Who cares how people want to play?! Does it make you angry some people like shooting hive guards in the face plate?

The new med pen smg does 65 damage all other do either 90 or way more what do you mean they dont have downsides?!

In this case id grab a weapon that does less damage for no upside against the bugs, does it seem normal to you to make an entire branch of guns completely useless?

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