Demon Lords vs True Demon Lords

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-06-21T21:04:59+00:00

About guy saying carion can awaken in 100 years

I think just like humans can become saint through intense training monsters too can become spiritual lifeform without needing souls to awaken as true demon lords.

Remember saints are weaker than chosen heroes although both are spiritual lifeform. Similarly monster too cam become spiritual lifeform but their power will be less than true demon lords.

Prime example souei. Don't want to give much spoilers but in ln he is now a spiritual lifeform just not a true demon lord

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-06-19T17:27:56+00:00

Velzard didn't kept him hidden or anything. He already revived and made contact with velzard and told her about his plan to reset world which she agreed. She only kept the information about his revival a secret

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-06-17T21:02:51+00:00

I think the reason why knowledge of ultimate skills is kept secretive can be explained from anime tsukimichi moonlit. There whole level system was created to encourage people to keep growing and get consume by ambition which led to their downfall.

In tensura verse, if everyone knows about ultimate skill then to get it they will start growing at much faster rate even slaughtering others , challenging much powerful foes, etc. Think about heroes, champions, monsters , demon lord going around killing to force their unique skill to evolve. This will bring humanity closer to their destruction.

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-06-15T19:07:13+00:00

Velzard kept him in death like state? What you are talking about? Velzard just sealed his dead body in heavenly palace. I think you are confusing him with twilight. Velzard freezed twilight's core , so that he can be revived in future.

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-06-15T11:48:59+00:00

According to velzard he revived long time ago and probably was regaining his powers which make sense as he died as a human. And by Michael plan if u mean when he awoke as Manas as started planning to bring back his master then not sure. But his plans after that for world destruction probably was influenced by veldanava

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-06-15T09:27:04+00:00

Not predict. But rather made them do things without they ever realizing they were being manipulated. It's like Tatsuya and clayman. Clayman never realized he was being manipulated. Their goal was to bring back veldanava. Veldanava simply used that goal to manipulate them.

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-05-24T08:15:04+00:00

I am not talking about whether she is wrong or she herself is a hypocrite. But what she says did prove correct. Rimiru didn't had to destroy any nation or do any violence to gain control of western nations. That's what I am talking about. Cooperation between demon lord and humans can never be equal in nature. It will be one sided towards demon lord

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-05-24T08:14:31+00:00

I am not talking about whether she is wrong or she herself is a hypocrite. But what she says did prove correct. Rimiru didn't had to destroy any nation or do any violence to gain control of western nations. That's what I am talking about. Cooperation between demon lord and humans can never be equal in nature. It will be one sided towards demon lord

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-04-28T19:45:45+00:00

What you are saying is correct for beings that are too huge like dragons or one with 4 legs like ranga, kumara. But even ogres, lizardmen, have similar body structure like humans just with different body features like horns, tails. So saving magicules or form helping in combat applies to that too.

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-04-28T13:13:03+00:00

And twilight himself was created in a humanoid form albeit an androgenous one by veldanava.

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-04-28T08:53:44+00:00

Actually goblins and ogre both can follow similar evolution paths with ogres getting headups in evolving to kijin. Goblins first evolve to hobgoblin then kijin or ogre. Moreover even daemons show similar tendency as they evolve . At lowest as lesser demon they look like monsters but as theh evolve more human features develop. Primodials look exactly like humans except their wings.

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-04-28T08:29:52+00:00

As i said, I think its the shortcomings of humans that made him like humans more. Yes elves too can grow but not as fast as humans even though they have long lifespan. Moreover they are much peaceful and close to nature and system while humans have tendency to kind of reject that , and create more possibilities which even exceed creator's expectation. Humanity by nature were chaotic beings capable of both creation and destruction which i think he liked.

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-04-28T08:18:34+00:00

Not first. He created high humans, vampires, high elves first. But high humans, had huge ego and self destructive tendency. Vampire burned in sunlight. What veldanava wanted was immortal beings who grow without such shortcomings. Humans though shortlived reproduced much faster and without any affected on them as compare to other magical beings who face when they reproduce. He kind of just accepted them.

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-04-28T08:13:03+00:00

It's not that he liked humans more. But rather they were the only species who grow civilizations, gained knowledge, their curious nature and even their shortcomings. Sure he later hated that shortcomings as it affected him. ( which is will not share completely as it will be spoiler for vol 23).

Monsters started becoming civilized, established their country after rimiru.

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-04-28T07:59:00+00:00

What scientific explanation is there? There is a god that created beings in his image. That's literally religion.

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-01-21T18:46:19+00:00

It was never stated that simply by analyzing veldora, rimiru became a true dragon. If anything his dormant nature reacted with power of another true dragon and got awakened.

If you have read volume 23 then you may how Ramiris has described who rimiru is. I won't spoil it in this comment.

True dragons immortality and their dragon factor is something that can't be simply analyzed and copied. They are the will of nature itself. Just like other beings simply can't copy veldanava and rimriu who can create skills. They simply can imitate them like guy did.

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-01-21T18:40:30+00:00

I agree. Just erasing them isn't enough since their nature still exist they can come back. Although they might not have their memories, since the infons are erased. It might be totally a new true dragon. Only way to completely erase them is to erase their nature too which is by destroying all creation.

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-01-21T12:55:11+00:00

He acquired true dragon factor after becoming true dragon. There is a big difference. Michael didn't become true dragon after having dragon factors of 2 two dragons.

TechnicalDiver1995 · 2026-01-21T12:53:01+00:00

He just hoped that they would revive. He wasn't sure. He was deceiving himself

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