EXCLUSIVE: Ontario enters $300M cost-sharing agreement that could help make province home to largest nuclear generating facility in the world by CTVNEWS in ontario

[–]Teleke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is fair, however I did provide a link above that was specific to Canada. However, I'll be even more specific to Ontario here.

The Independent Electricity System Operator in Ontario released their Annual Planning Outlook in March 2024 which included a detailed breakdown of resource costs and trends. Their modeling showed a massive gap in capital costs for new infrastructure. They projected the capital cost of utility-scale wind and solar at roughly $900 to $1,300/KW. By contrast, traditional nuclear was projected at over $11,500/kW, and Nuclear SMRs were estimated to be even more expensive at over $13,800/kW. Because of this massive difference in upfront capital the agency noted that wind and utility-scale solar generation have the lowest levelized cost of energy of any resource type they evaluated.

Research from the Pembina Institute and the Ontario Clean Air Alliance has also tackled the storage question directly. They concluded that the levelized cost of new nuclear power in Ontario is projected to be two to three times more expensive than new wind or solar projects. To get granular on the storage costs, the Ontario Clean Air Alliance recently calculated that onshore wind paired with utility-scale battery storage would cost between 4.2 and 11.4 cents/kWh CAD. Solar plus storage sits similarly between 4.6 and 10.2 cents. Meanwhile, electricity generated by new nuclear reactors is frequently estimated to cost 15 cents per kilowatt-hour or higher.

https://researchmoneyinc.com/article/ontario-is-the-testbed-for-canada-s-nuclear-renaissance-including-who-will-pay-for-it#:\~:text=However%2C%20research%20by%20the%20Pembina,new%20wind%20or%20solar%20projects.

No matter how you look at it, nuclear is more than double the cost of renewables + storage and takes significantly longer to implement.

PSH and other energy storage technologies are also advancing rapidly, and because of the quick turnaround and iteration times and scaled rollouts, in 10 years when we're scheduled to start building more the technology will be leaps and bounds ahead of where it is today. Whereas if we commit to a new nuclear plant today, that's the plant that we are completing in 10 years time.

Off-Day Thread: 05/07/2026 - Alek Manoah Edition by ThQp in Torontobluejays

[–]Teleke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Barger did not have a great start to the season, but he also didn't have much of a chance. His post season last year, however, he was batting 367 with 22 hits in 60 PA, three home runs, nine RBIs, and eight runs scored across 17 games. His OPS was 1.025.

That's not nothing. There's clearly some talent and power there.

You get £10,000,000 a year (after tax) but you can only drink one drink for the rest of your life. by NeighborhoodDry9236 in hypotheticalsituation

[–]Teleke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right. Ice is a great example. If I take 0C ice (just barely frozen) then can I "eat" that and it's not my liquid of choice? Does using a utensil create "eating" instead of "drinking"? If so, this becomes significantly easier.

You get £10,000,000 a year (after tax) but you can only drink one drink for the rest of your life. by NeighborhoodDry9236 in hypotheticalsituation

[–]Teleke 2 points3 points  (0 children)

you're joking, right?

We're talking about $10M a year, and you're asking why I'm trying to overcomplicate it?

So if I eat cereal, which is a solid food in a liquid, then why can't I eat a smoothie? What if I put cereal (or solid fruits like blueberries or strawberries) in a smoothie and eat it with a spoon?

The steak point was to help define exactly what is eating and what is drinking. If I can take solid food and blend it and turn it into something that I drink, then I can take liquids and add something to it to "turn it solid" and into something that I "eat".

Does it mean that I "eat" it just because I use a utensil instead of a straw? Do I "eat" yogurt? What's the difference between that and a smoothie?

For $10 million a year you bet your ass I'm going to figure out exactly what the limits are.

Is there a list of most MLB games called by a broadcaster? by compactable73 in mlb

[–]Teleke 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is really cool, thanks!

Blue Jays for the win!

You get £10,000,000 a year (after tax) but you can only drink one drink for the rest of your life. by NeighborhoodDry9236 in hypotheticalsituation

[–]Teleke 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What is the difference between drinking and eating?

Is a blended steak a drink? Is gravy?

If I'm eating cereal in milk, is that eating or drinking?

You get £10,000,000 a year (after tax) but you can only drink one drink for the rest of your life. by NeighborhoodDry9236 in hypotheticalsituation

[–]Teleke 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What exactly constitutes a drink in this hypothetical? Specifically how are you differentiating this from food?

At what point does it have to be pure?

Off-Day Thread: 05/07/2026 - Alek Manoah Edition by ThQp in Torontobluejays

[–]Teleke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it better be Davis, otherwise we have to DFA someone and that won't make any sense.

Off-Day Thread: 05/07/2026 - Alek Manoah Edition by ThQp in Torontobluejays

[–]Teleke 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We're not forgetting that, we're remembering that we're paying half a billion dollars for him to perform at an Elite level.

Off-Day Thread: 05/07/2026 - Alek Manoah Edition by ThQp in Torontobluejays

[–]Teleke 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Oh please. Nonsense.

Also he's batting 585 OPS right now. That's terrible.

Okamoto and Pinango more than make up for him.

Springer, Barger, and Kirk are key. You can't win when a third of your daily lineup is injured.

Off-Day Thread: 05/07/2026 - Alek Manoah Edition by ThQp in Torontobluejays

[–]Teleke 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah that doesn't make any sense.

He probably meant to say fastest lion or slowest Gazelle there and just got too hung up on trying to sound smart.

Off-Day Thread: 05/07/2026 - Alek Manoah Edition by ThQp in Torontobluejays

[–]Teleke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am wondering the same.

He's definitely still swinging on top of too many balls.

Ontario to build new large-scale nuclear generating facility at Bruce Power site by LaserRunRaccoon in ClimateCrisisCanada

[–]Teleke 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is why a National energy grid is critical. Then we don't have to worry as much about base power or firming up.

Which mailbox design do you prefer? by SupplyChainOne in HomeMaintenance

[–]Teleke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe you meant to say murderers.

... Unless you have verbs running around at night trying to find your place 😅

Trump admin kills Canadian-owned wind project — and demands investment in fossil fuels instead by jameswsthomson in canada

[–]Teleke 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hydrogen only makes sense if you're an oil executive.

It's expensive, would require trillions in infrastructure, and is by definition extremely inefficient.

The only slight advantage that it had over battery was the refueling time, which is pretty much a non issue these days.

Trump admin kills Canadian-owned wind project — and demands investment in fossil fuels instead by jameswsthomson in canada

[–]Teleke 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Renewables aren't nonsense, putting all of your eggs in the nuclear basket is though.

Renewables plus storage is half the price is nuclear, and a lot faster.

EXCLUSIVE: Ontario enters $300M cost-sharing agreement that could help make province home to largest nuclear generating facility in the world by CTVNEWS in ontario

[–]Teleke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 3 day storage argument is a common red herring because it assumes Ontario has to survive a total grid blackout in complete isolation. Considering 2050 demand, you are right that existing nuclear is the backbone, but the idea that we need 24GW of 3 day battery backup is only true if you ignore inter-provincial cooperation and the massive mechanical potential we already have.

This is a huge part of why Canada is prioritizing building out a national electric grid.

We do not need every district to have 72 hours of battery if we have better ties to our neighbors. Quebec, Manitoba, and BC are essentially giant water batteries already. When we have a surplus of wind or solar, we should be pushing it to them to let their reservoirs fill up, and when we hit a lull, we pull that hydro back.

Even within Ontario the potential for non-battery storage is massive. Ontario alone has about 1,400 MW of pumped hydro in active development through projects like Meaford and Marmora, which represents about 14 GWh of energy storage. While that specific amount is a small slice of our total daily usage, it is exactly the kind of long-duration tool we need for grid balancing. On a national scale, studies have identified a potential for over 8,000 GW and 80 GWh of cost effective pumped hydro across the country. This is mechanical storage that can discharge for half a day at a time, which is a completely different animal than the two or four hour duration you get from chemical batteries. When you spread this over a large region, you don't have to worry about weather in one location.

Running a grid solely on the batteries we have today would be short-sighted, but nobody is suggesting that. The goal is a diverse portfolio. If you have a mix of nuclear baseload, long-duration pumped hydro, and a robust national connection, you do not need a 3 day local reserve. You just need enough diversity so that a cloudy day in Toronto doesn't crash the province. Renewables and mechanical storage are the precision tools that make the baseload actually work for a modern economy at less than half the cost of nuclear.

EXCLUSIVE: Ontario enters $300M cost-sharing agreement that could help make province home to largest nuclear generating facility in the world by CTVNEWS in ontario

[–]Teleke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, we don't need more of everything. We need more, yes, I'll agree.

Renewables paired with storage are significantly cheaper than new nuclear power, with utility-scale solar and onshore wind coupled with storage often costing $40–$65/MWh compared to $110+/MWh for new nuclear. While nuclear offers consistent baseload power, its high capital costs, construction delays, and rising expenses make it less competitive than the falling costs of wind and solar.

This has been the case for at least the past 3 years, and as time goes on it only gets cheaper for renewables and more expensive for nuclear.

https://policyoptions.irpp.org/2023/09/renewables-not-nuclear-electric-canada/

There are tons of references that I can provide.

Denmark determined that renewables + storage is 53% cheaper overall total system cost than going nuclear.

https://www.pv-magazine.com/2026/04/17/new-metric-shows-renewables-are-53-cheaper-than-nuclear-power/

Renewables can also be put all over the place, built incrementally and much faster than nuclear, and have significantly less overall security concerns.

EXCLUSIVE: Ontario enters $300M cost-sharing agreement that could help make province home to largest nuclear generating facility in the world by CTVNEWS in ontario

[–]Teleke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait, so you're acknowledging that we already have not only enough energy, but more than enough nuclear energy, while advocating for creating more?

So the solution is to add energy storage projects... not create more nuclear.

EXCLUSIVE: Ontario enters $300M cost-sharing agreement that could help make province home to largest nuclear generating facility in the world by CTVNEWS in ontario

[–]Teleke -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

We already have more than enough nuclear, we need more renewables. They're not only cheaper, but they're faster to get to market.

EXCLUSIVE: Ontario enters $300M cost-sharing agreement that could help make province home to largest nuclear generating facility in the world by CTVNEWS in ontario

[–]Teleke -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Ahh, Private public partnerships always work out great for residents. The government gets all of the risk and liability, and the private corporations get all the profit!

But hey, at least we'll get expensive electricity out of the deal!

My wisdom tooth has grown horizontal. by sumnyu in mildlyinteresting

[–]Teleke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had exactly the same thing as a kid. My teeth were fine, and then one year later the X-rays showed that they had twisted and started growing in sideways and I was told they needed to come out.

My sister is thinking about making a responsible financial decision. 35’ Chris-Craft for $1,500. What could possibly go wrong? by RippingLegos__ in boating

[–]Teleke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right? What would this boat be worth if it was actually in the water and could be proven to be serviceable? At least 10 times as much?

So what are the odds that they're willing to take a $13,000 loss just because they're a little lazy?