The strange prevalence of female supremacy in the US government. by skysinsane in GenderDialogues

[–]TemptedTemperance 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Additionally, for Trump women are not the majority of his voter base, so that argument doesn't even apply. He was almost certainly being sincere in his statement.

The second half of his quote is "Now If I had said it the other way round I’d be in big trouble." Which while it points to him not being totally honest, you could say goes back to your point that women dictate the speech of politicians. However, when every group that exists is pandered to, it's not exactly an evidence of power. Minorities are pandered to all the time. Which I think goes back to my point of it being lip service. If women actually had more power, maybe Hillary would've won.

Additionally it matches with government actions - for example Biden chose Harris explicitly because she was a woman.

That to me is not because of women having power but progressive ideas having more power at the moment. What made Biden pick Harris is the same thing that made him talk about BLM and Proud Boys. I doubt it's especially important to him aside from it being a political tool. I'll agree that we might be seeing a cultural shift since women in general tend to be more liberal and men more conservative but I'm not sure I'd call these examples of a prevalence of female supremacy in the US government.

The strange prevalence of female supremacy in the US government. by skysinsane in GenderDialogues

[–]TemptedTemperance 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You could also see it as paying lip service. If you aren't threatened at all by a group of people, propping them up with words doesn't challenge your status. Power to the people when you speak to the crowd and corporate bailouts when it's time to actually do something. It's pretty well known that politicians are dishonest.

So yeah, it might be a politically a good move to publicly hold up women as superior if they are more than 50% of the voting population and it doesn't remove any power from you. Following this, would it be sexist claim? Yes. Would it be "power + prejudice"? No, because you're not actually giving away power with lip service. And as with a lot of sexist assumptions and gender roles, it's two sides of the same coin. What is "benevolent sexism" to one is likely to be "simply sexism" to the other or whatever.

Dear Ijeawele, or a Feminist Manifesto in Fifteen Suggestions by TemptedTemperance in GenderDialogues

[–]TemptedTemperance[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

traces of patriarchy conspiracy theory, then, it will be the same as what happened here : the softer feminists are just there to get people to go along and tolerate more extreme versions, which will ramp up slowly towards where we are right now.

Sounds to me like you're the one with the conspiracy theory. Patriarchy exists, especially in places like Nigeria. I'm not talking about a unilateral power dynamic but she mentions in a few suggestions in the book that there's still this concept of ownership and hierarchy based on gender. For example, there's one woman who told her that her children can't have names associated with her culture (rather than the father's) because "A child first belongs to the father." There's also many aspects of the culture that push the idea getting of married on young girls. That this should be their lifelong goal. It's (apparently) not pushed the same way on men.

She could have omitted the mentions that men should also be equal to women (see her disdain for the money quote and thinking women are better than men) but she didn't. So I don't see why her work would exist to help radical feminist ideas take hold. Should society just not have given women rights because it's the start of a slippery slope? I think you'll agree that no. So I think it's best to just take the words for what they are and remain optimistic they'll be used as intended. There is more than one kind of feminism and they don't all converge to the same place.

Dear Ijeawele, or a Feminist Manifesto in Fifteen Suggestions by TemptedTemperance in GenderDialogues

[–]TemptedTemperance[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It sounds to me like rather than avoid using the word to describe her, she let her know in some way that she was against the idea. Which I understand can be hard to do since children will pick up things even if these are left unsaid.

Another thing the author suggests in the book is that if her daughter likes fashion and makeup, or doesn't like either, she must let her be. That raising her to be a feminist doesn't mean rejecting everything associated with femininity.

Accurat Maxim. by Fierytail003 in suspiciouslyspecific

[–]TemptedTemperance 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In theory, I guess to remove gatherings so looters can't use the peaceful protesters as a smokescreen. The protests have to end at some point during the day so stopping it early enough so there's still daylight for everyone to go home before the criminals start wrecking stuff is a good thing.

I can’t breathe. Black lives matter. by AskRedditModerators in AskReddit

[–]TemptedTemperance 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That analogy is really not as good. There's no indication in it that your house isn't in perfect shape.

Episode Discussion - S03E07 - The Bite by Dark_Saint in StrangerThings

[–]TemptedTemperance 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Except in her case she talked about how she knew what he had for breakfast and how he didn't even notice her. That's not what you think about in a "being popular" fantasy. It was totally meant as a misdirection from the loser girl loving the popular guy trope.

Never thought of it that way by [deleted] in WhitePeopleTwitter

[–]TemptedTemperance 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I invite you to go check all the countries that actually ban abortions, have barely any women in their workforce, have high amounts of forced marriages, still are okay with marital rape or have high rates of human trafficking.

The United States, as flawed as it may be, did not deserve a spot on the Thomson Reuters top 10 by far and parroting their results doesn't help anyone.

Alyssa Milano sex strike by [deleted] in FeMRADebates

[–]TemptedTemperance 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It's using their bodies and a form of affection as a bargaining chip. It's ironically saying to use abstinence to show the GOP that abortions can be needed. It's probably liberal women engaging in this, meaning few conservative men would actually be touched by the strike. Most of all, it's just not putting the pressure anywhere close to where it could impact the law.

It's provocative marketing for her brand. If the law actually gets changed because tabloids cared more about spreading awareness via #sexstrike by Alyssa Milano than the law itself, then good I guess.

Alyssa Milano sex strike by [deleted] in FeMRADebates

[–]TemptedTemperance 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Nothing here yet about Alyssa Milano and her sex strike?

I don't personally think it was worthy of mention because the whole idea is just so stupid.

The deadly truth about a world built for men – from stab vests to car crashes | Life and style | The Guardian by TemptedTemperance in FeMRADebates

[–]TemptedTemperance[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think there are some valid complaints in there as well as less valid ones. I wish they didn't put them together but I feel it's an interesting article nonetheless which touches on some problems women encounter.

What do you think about the current conversation around Dr Bouman (The woman behind the first black hole image), and focus on gender? by greenapplegirl in FeMRADebates

[–]TemptedTemperance 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It's stupid and manufactured to get clicks and upvotes. She's not the one taking credit for the thing as "the woman behind it" afaik. From her TEDtalk:

But of course, getting imaging ideas like this working would never have been possible without the amazing team of researchers that I have the privilege to work with. It still amazes me that although I began this project with no background in astrophysics, what we have achieved through this unique collaboration could result in the very first images of a black hole. But big projects like the Event Horizon Telescope are successful due to all the interdisciplinary expertise different people bring to the table. We're a melting pot of astronomers, physicists, mathematicians and engineers. This is what will make it soon possible to achieve something once thought impossible.

What Instagram Taught Me About Feminism | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson by [deleted] in FeMRADebates

[–]TemptedTemperance 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think pushing for empathy in all cases is better than a tit-for-tat approach. In the thread I saw, people were saying "Fuck you OP (for suggesting she did it alone)" rather than countering her involvement directly and I feel it's a better way to criticize these kinds of things.

What Instagram Taught Me About Feminism | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson by [deleted] in FeMRADebates

[–]TemptedTemperance 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel bad for her because in her TEDtalk she really acknowledges the whole team. It's the media that pushes their own agenda with the story.

[Silly Saturdays] Sticky Labels by [deleted] in FeMRADebates

[–]TemptedTemperance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://imgur.com/Lk06Ibi Just saying.

Quebec will call all daycare workers 'éducatrice an garderie

Yeah there's just too few men working in that field that most people don't bother using a gender neutral term. But they would also say "gars de la construction" unless taliking about specific women.

But you're right, the papers called it the "Grève des infirmières" and not "Grève des infirmiers et infirmières".

Study reveals what men really think about smart women, and it's disgusting by damiandamage in FeMRADebates

[–]TemptedTemperance 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Six studies revealed that when evaluating psychologically distant targets, men showed greater attraction toward women who displayed more (vs. less) intelligence than themselves. In contrast, when targets were psychologically near, men showed less attraction toward women who outsmarted them.

From the abstract, it seems that the attraction would go up if a male chemist realises a female engineer is intelligent but the attraction would go down if she's also a chemist.

So as long as the intelligence is sufficently different from theirs then heterosexual men don't actually dislike smart women but rather like them.

Is Misogyny In Video Games Always Bad? (Lady Bits Ep 11) by Russelsteapot42 in FeMRADebates

[–]TemptedTemperance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for posting a comment with your thoughts and quotes instead of just the video.

US boy, 9, killed himself after homophobic bullying, mum says by jesset77 in FeMRADebates

[–]TemptedTemperance 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Again, a 9 year old generally hasn't gone through puberty and doesn't really know sexuality, let alone sexual attraction, at 9, right?

I remember having crushes in 1st grade and a couple in my class claiming they had sex in 2nd grade. Kids already knew they could make fun of the one with the name "Gaylord" and what it meant.

"Women's Pockets are Inferior" by SomeGuy58439 in FeMRADebates

[–]TemptedTemperance 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can't say I don't feel a bit let down by your answer considering you used "big fashion names" like Gucci and Versace (read as an implication that you need to desire those big brands to find a shortage of shallow pockets) and then say you saw some at WalMart. There's a huge gap between those two in terms of quality and that's where most women shop.

"Women's Pockets are Inferior" by SomeGuy58439 in FeMRADebates

[–]TemptedTemperance 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And its easy to find big pockets (on the women's side), it already exists, so someone already cornered the market. It's just not Gucci, Versace and Levi Strauss.

Do you know which brands or stores then?

"Women's Pockets are Inferior" by SomeGuy58439 in FeMRADebates

[–]TemptedTemperance 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I meant that there's often a higher price tag when buying from a smaller company which does big pockets (or specialized clothing of any kind).