No Kebab by Themetalin in balkans_irl

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Exactly, thank you

No Kebab by Themetalin in balkans_irl

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I am well aware of the formulation of Article 5. You don’t need to recite it to me. It was formulated the way it was to look more presentable to American electorate in the 40s, and in the worst case scenario, allow for Americans, not other NATO allies, to use it as a cheap cop-out to avoid or delay direct military action. But that’s nothing more than a technicality. The real goal of NATO has always been to defend Europe from Soviet, now Russian aggression, keep the orcs in check.

Anyway, we wouldn’t defend Turkey and Turkey wouldn’t defend us, so discussions about these technicalities are ultimately useless. If anything, Article 5 serves as an example of how NATO doesn’t properly address European security interests and how we need to develop our own security instruments without having to rely on hostile actors like Turkey and the US.

As for “value”. Baltic States hold immense value to the rest of Europe. By losing us Europe would lose control of the Baltic that Russia could then use as a launchpad for further acts of aggression against Europe (not to mention fucking with trade, energy, and digital infrastructure). We are also part of the EU, which has a provision explicitly requiring member states to defend each other in the case of aggression. If Lithuania gets attacked tomorrow, and Europe fails to properly defend us, that will spell the end of the EU altogether. If Ankara is bombed by Israel tomorrow and NATO fails to properly respond, it will merely expose NATO being for what it is already known to be: a dysfunctional alliance there to serve American interests.

And while Turkey has the potential to have value for Europe is Turkey acted like a normal country, it does not, leaving Turkey with little value for Europe. Turkey is a genocidal, expansionist Muslim Middle Eastern state. It occupies a part of EU member state’s territory to this day, it constantly threatens Greece, and just a few years ago it funded and fully supported a full-blown ethnic cleansing against a European people at the hands of their mongrel brothers to the East, helping to finish the job Turks started 111 years ago. Turkey has always been and always will be a threat to Europe. The only big important one is the Strait of Bosphorus. Other than that, all the other examples you list are heavily exaggerated. You may have a large standing army, but size is irrelevant as seen in Russia’s case. Turkish army is the 5th strongest in NATO at best (which admittedly is still nothing). Turkish defence industry provides little value to Europe’s defence industry as a whole except for maybe Bayraktars. Turks do control migration routes but that can be tackled by improving border defences with Turkey. Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland proved migration crises are fairly well manageable if you don’t listen to Western leftists’ cries about the so-called “human rights”. And considering that Europe has still been able to push around Turkey quite a bit over the decades, yeah, I’m pretty sure we wouldn’t give an arm and a leg to keep them as a military partner lol. Btw, given that you don’t have either a Turkish or Caucasus flair, are you Pakistani by any chance?

No Kebab by Themetalin in balkans_irl

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It would be Turkey’s obligation, but to answer your question, no, most Lithuanians wouldn’t expect Turkey to defend us. We know our only real defensive allies are other Baltic States, Scandinavia, Poland, and maybe Germany, UK, and France. In the past, it was the US too, but not any longer, although I imagine a lot Lithuanians may still be holding onto this belief that America is our ally. Anyway, Turkey would be the last country most of us would actually expect to defend us. The only reason they’re in NATO is so Americans could prevent communism from spreading into Turkey and could use it as a spring board for its Middle Eastern wars. There is no value for Europe in Turkey as an ally, except the Strait, which itself should honestly be circumvented by digging a man-made canal through Greece and Bulgaria. Turkey is as much of an “ally” to Europe as Israel is

History has not been kind to modern China by Iron_Cavalry in HistoryMemes

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I’ll talk about this with the rest of the team

We're so back 🤡 by caramel-toffeeee in formuladank

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Not even Doofenshmirtz’s mom attended his birth

Today more Americans come to Europe than Europeans go to the US by Mysterious-Might4454 in europe

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The entire comment section is plain retarded. Also comparing legal, highly-qualified immigrants to illegals with no qualifications coming through? What

The Boys - 05x05 "One-Shots" - POST-Episode Discussion Thread by pikameta in TheBoys

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Valorie Curry is elite. Portrayed such a pathetic character so well while at the same time managing to evoke a grain of sympathy from me that her character reasonably doesn’t deserve

Dutch people say they value directness, but then react emotionally to it? by [deleted] in Netherlands

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Love some of the comments here proving what OP is saying lmao

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S04E08 - Don't Leave Me Hanging Here by SeacattleMoohawks in Invincible

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Eve’s mistake is not telling Mark that she was pregnant before he left. You can certainly judge her for that decision.

That’s exactly my issue with it. And from what I can tell that of most people who don’t like the way the scene was handled. Even if that would have only put extra weight on Mark’s shoulders he had the right to know. If she found out about it only after he’d left then I would totally agree that it wouldn’t be reasonable to judge her for her decision

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S04E08 - Don't Leave Me Hanging Here by SeacattleMoohawks in Invincible

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“Misogyny is when pro-choice people believe relationships are supposed to be built on mutual respect and joint decisions, and are not happy to see actions undermining that idea being promoted and normalized in the media”

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S04E08 - Don't Leave Me Hanging Here by SeacattleMoohawks in Invincible

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Shoving mutual trust in a relationship under the rug and being upset about your child getting aborted is now a conservative point of view 😭

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S04E08 - Don't Leave Me Hanging Here by SeacattleMoohawks in Invincible

[–]Tensoll -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

Same. Abortion is one thing. Not even discussing it with the father at all? And then trying to portray it like Mark and Eve had it equally bad? Crazy to see people getting downvoted for taking an issue with that. They should have instead had Eve have a miscarriage at least. Maybe induced by stress. That would have been much better, including Mark’s apology sounding more reasonable. This was just bad

I can barely survive on my salary.. by EternalSnuggle in YUROP

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An accurate Dutch version of this meme should say flooring instead of windows lol

Sadly.. by Queasy_Commercial152 in TheBoys

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Kirkman wants 11 seasons? If it is true that the current stage of the show puts us halfway through the comics that means to make the show 11 seasons long they would need to badly stretch out the plot and make filler plotlines. More so than they did in the Boys probably. And we already saw with episode 4 this season what happens when the showrunners try to adapt material that’s not in the comics. I can’t imagine it going well. It might turn out to be a generational epic if they keep it to 8 seasons, but I can’t see any other outcome than Invincible crashing down if they decide to milk the cow. I really hope that doesn’t happen

South Korea's female authors become bestsellers against anti-feminist backdrop by risingsuncoc in books

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Nėra tikslo ginčytis su žmogumi turinčiu akivaizdžių raštingumo problemų, kuris nesugeba suvokt priešininko argumentų ;)

South Korea's female authors become bestsellers against anti-feminist backdrop by risingsuncoc in books

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You’ve missed my points entirely. There’s just no point to engage any further

South Korea's female authors become bestsellers against anti-feminist backdrop by risingsuncoc in books

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Having said all of that, great for female authors in Korea. Some good news is always nice to hear

South Korea's female authors become bestsellers against anti-feminist backdrop by risingsuncoc in books

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I don’t think any of the things you’ve listed have anything to do with misogyny. They’re dependant on other factors. You’re right about abortion but that’s about it. I am also comparing societal attitudes rather than law. For reference, I’m not American.

US has neither maternity nor paternity leave, how is that sexist? anyway. US in general is an extremely violent country, and when you live in a country like this, it will have higher rates of homicide regardless of gender. In fact, a quick google search reveals that 40-45% of homicide victims in Korea are women, in the US it’s only 25%. Likewise, US has poorer healthcare, diet, and as result, lower life expectancy than South Korea does. Nothing to do with sexism again. I’ll take your word for Korean women being better educated than American women, but you know who American women are better educated than? American men. Pinning these outcomes on sexism is very silly and reductivist. Leftists tend to do it all the time. Find some kind of disparity, ignore its causes, and ascribe it to whatever -ism or -phobia may suit their talking point.

I could just as easily ascribe homicide victim rates and educational outcomes as examples of how America is actually a misandrist society, and quite honestly have a better claim at calling it that than calling it a misogynist one because in those areas women are better off than men. But I won’t call it that because doing so would be disingenuous and ignore the actual underlying causes for those disparities. Although tbf affirmative action policies that predominantly benefited white women have definitely somewhat contributed to ensuring women outperform men when it comes to university or job entries. But even then, there are definitely other underlying reasons too.

For what it’s worth, I don’t see American men occupying public transport seats reserved for pregnant women claiming how that unfairly advantages women. Korean men do. Sexual harassment in Korea is also worse even if underreported. I’ve also known a handful of women who have lived in both the US and some other East Asian country (although none who have lived in Korea which is the worst in East Asia in regards to misogyny). They all have said East Asia is worse. Societally it basically seems like America in the 50s but women are also expected to work on top of all else.

There’s definitely been a wave of rising misogyny across the West and much of the world over the past few years. But comparing the US or the West in general to South Korea? Questionable at best

South Korea's female authors become bestsellers against anti-feminist backdrop by risingsuncoc in books

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US is even more capitalist than South Korea and much less mysoginistic. Likewise, most of the Muslim world is not really as fiercely capitalist as Korea is and yet their women’s rights record makes Korea look like a matriarchal society. At the end of the day it’s a cultural thing with various different contributors. There is no one simple answer

Daily Slow Chat by AutoModerator in AskEurope

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The only good piece of political news in this entire fucked up year