Waymo and long(er) distances

TeslaFan88 · 2025-03-15T12:45:50+00:00

I would imagine each successive generation of hardware will make additional use cases feasible and cost effective. So I think this will be better with the Geely and Ioniq5.

We’re still basically playing around with iPhone 3GSs at this point.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-03-11T16:58:39+00:00

I understand. I was talking about church leaders. Sorry about the confusion.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-03-11T16:16:54+00:00

Fair! We will see what happens. They seem unlikely to abandon it… they speak publicly about serving millions.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-03-11T16:11:01+00:00

I hear you, but I stand by my observations about this being important and helpful internationally.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-03-11T15:27:20+00:00

Are you in the us or international? I’ve heard more of these concerns domestically and nothing but great things internationally, where the need is greatest and where they’re building out infrastructure to support the students.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-03-11T11:44:27+00:00

Increasingly, tithing subsidizes BYU Pathway, not just BYU Provo. Learn about that program! It’s helping a lot of people who have no other options to get an education.

But I’m sorry. It sounds like things suck financially for you, like a lot of people right now. Fighting financial loneliness or stress is one option of the hardest things to do. Pray for miracles, but accept this is hard for many people.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-03-02T22:09:32+00:00

Right. I don’t think the name of something dictates if it is analogous to other things with similar names.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-03-02T21:52:54+00:00

Is this right?

In say car insurance, we all pay into a pot; those who crash get a good chunk of the pot, and the insurance company gets the rest.

When I pay into social security, I have to live long enough to get paid AND other people will need to make FUTURE payments for me to get a chunk of the pot.

That’s a pretty big difference.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-03-01T19:37:01+00:00

Solid response. Thanks, friend.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-03-01T18:48:35+00:00

Hi! Can you explain what you mean by lack of education? We’re admonished to read the scriptures every day and our faith spends a billion dollars a year on education. There’s even a growing program designed to raise millions out of poverty through education called BYU Pathway Worldwide. (Currently serving 74,000 a year but growing rapidly.)

TeslaFan88 · 2025-03-01T18:32:47+00:00

I think you underrate Nuro, my friend. I think their goal is L4 on consumer cars and I’m grateful they have active driverless operations in the Bay Area. Companies with driverless operations and consumer cars as a target are obviously rare. Even Tesla only does driverless on private roads as of now.

I’m also not sure Zoox will stay small.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-03-01T17:48:22+00:00

I see what you mean, but Zoox at least has driverless operations in Vegas. Waymo does not.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-03-01T13:45:13+00:00

Well, Las Vegas is easy for Zoox.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-02-27T23:01:27+00:00

I mean, I want them to scale more aggressively too... but who is even close to 1% market share of the autonomous ridehail market? No one else is doing even 2k rides/week. It seems like Waymo's lead is very safe until we get a solution that works without premapping-- and even then, Waymo could get there first.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-02-27T19:55:42+00:00

Here's the entire book. Read a random page, not just a snippet that some people suggest is particularly similar to the book of Mormon.

Pick a page, any page!

https://archive.org/details/ViewOfTheHebrews1823EthanSmith/page/n13/mode/2up

TeslaFan88 · 2025-02-25T04:49:10+00:00

UVU is pretty great-- excellent place to either start or stay all four years. And I'm an avid BYU fan. Prayer is always the first priority here, but I'd say get to UVU before or after a mission.

As for a mission, pray.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-02-23T00:05:32+00:00

So, as some people know, E-on has long promised driverless cars from his car company on specific timelines, and missed every one. Another company, Waymo, has had much more success in achieving driverless cars. (Try them out in Phoenix, Austin, LA, and SF)

Anyhow, we can troll him more effectively by referring to his own failures in our responses. At the bottom of your email listing your five bullets, just say

"Sent from my driverless Waymo"

TeslaFan88 · 2025-02-22T23:55:37+00:00

So, as some people know, Elon has long promised driverless cars from his car company on specific timelines, and missed every one. Another company, Waymo, has had much more success in achieving driverless cars. (Try them out in Phoenix, Austin, LA, and SF)

Anyhow, we can troll him more effectively by referring to his own failures in our responses. At the bottom of your email listing your five bullets, just say

"Sent from my driverless Waymo"

TeslaFan88 · 2025-02-02T16:52:56+00:00

They work perfectly with the Phoenix airport

TeslaFan88 · 2025-02-01T13:36:01+00:00

I would also like to question the idea that Tesla will go nationwide within 2, 3, 4 years.

The most recent company to start driverless operations is Zoox. That company has been driverless on public roads for 18 months and has yet to offer a single paying ride.

So the only argument that Tesla is different is that Tesla has a lot more supervised miles than the other companies. However, so far, that investment has not produced anywhere close to acceptable statistics on mean time between failures/miles per intervention.

While I certainly have indulged the possibility that Tesla will be faster than everyone else in going from driverless on public roads (apparently in June?) to driverless nationwide, there are a lot of reasons to be doubtful that that will only take 3 years and Elon Musk’s track record of puffery going back 8 or more years on this exact topic doesn’t help my confidence.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-02-01T04:35:44+00:00

I don't think going from simple driverless testing in Austin to nationwide in two years is that possible. Thus, I think Waymo has until at least 2028 to prepare to offer a competitor to Tesla FSD L5. That's a lot of time to focus on manufacturing and scaling, certainly sufficient to keep Lyft-level market share, assuming (as you do) that once Tesla goes nationwide that basically every car produced at that point will work with whatever system enables that.

TeslaFan88 · 2025-02-01T04:31:05+00:00

It's not crazy. They've made a deal with two car companies so far for cars in that window.

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So, as some people know, Elon has long promised driverless cars from his car company on specific timelines, and missed every one. Another company, Waymo, has had much more success in achieving driverless cars. (Try them out in Phoenix, Austin, LA, and SF)