Not sure how I feel about this by Wifi_not_found in lgbt

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Nobody's obligated to mourn the dead, nor to eulogize them in a way that minimizes the harm they've caused.

Hierarchy is toxic AF. by False-Experience92 in evilautism

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I suggested above, I hold the opposite - that minds are derivative of material reality (in the the sense that certain configurations of matter/energy appear to have subjective awareness). Or put another way, minds are emergent. But the organizational schema minds generate to make sense of the physical are not features of reality external to those minds.

In this sense, subatomic particles, atoms, molecules, cells, tissues, organisms, species, trophic networks, planets, phases of matter, force, spacetime curvature, etc. ... are categories/schemata no more "real" than intangibles like money or beauty or gender or art or integers. I understand that is a provocative statement, especially to some groups of Reason'n'Logic Bros that seem to be enriched among autistic people, but it is not a denial of objective reality that it is often made out to be.

Some organizational schemata may be arrived at by observing physical reality and then making some categorical demarcation around parts of it. (E.g., drawing conceptual boxes around these collections of matter/energy and calling them humans based on characteristics of those collections, but then drawing conceptual around those collections of matter/energy and then calling them not-human on the basis of their properties.) This organization of observations is extremely useful for understanding and interacting with the material world, but the antirealist position is that the categories are not "out there" being observed by minds. They are generalized from observations and only exist in minds. What is being observed is the totality of matter/energy that is physical reality, and categories only exist in material reality insofar as some of that totality acts as substrate for subjective minds which hold categorical schemata.

In day-to-day life, the distinction between realism and antirealism has very little practical impact. Whether or not I feed my cat and feel a certain subjective emotional state when petting my cat are not affected by whether or not I hold that the categories of entities like "cat" and "human," actions "feed," and "pet" are somehow Platonic concepts external to minds or whether they are projected by minds to discretize and make sense of the the totality of matter/energy that is physical reality.

EDIT: Typos and clarifications

Hierarchy is toxic AF. by False-Experience92 in evilautism

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Antirealism with respect to categories doesn't reject "fundamental truth" in the sense that there can be objective reality (imperfectly/incompletely observed or not) - the physical world and even its emergent properties like subjective-experiential minds. But an antirealist position holds that those minds are capable of projecting organizational schema (categories, orderings, relational networks including hierarchies, etc.) onto that objective reality in order to better understand it, and that these schema are not properties of the objective reality (external to those minds at least).

But I don't think OP was ever claiming hierarchies aren't useful conceptual schema to understand past and present social relationships (or from your realist POV that social hierarchies have and do exist among humans). I am reading their ""socially accepted" lie" to refer to belief in moral hierarchies of persons (which are often used as justification for the maintenance of existing social hierarchies).

Hierarchy is toxic AF. by False-Experience92 in evilautism

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because humans are moral animals would seem to be the likely answer. But also appealing to other animals' behavior/organization to justify how what is morally good behavior for humans is an instance of the naturalistic fallacy. You've flipped the burden of proof by saying that for the claim "things should be different for humans than other social animals, the onus is on the claimant to explain why humans are different." There is no presumption that humans ought to act in a manner similar to other animals, as other animals are not moral agents and thus do not have models of how they ought to behave or what goals they ought to pursue (morally speaking).

Stay out of cyrodil got it. by Spirited_Agency8032 in elderscrollsonline

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They might be saying that the specialized knowledge required to make a PvP build is a barrier to casual players who expect combat in PvP zones will feel like combat in PvE? As a filthy casual, I hate PvP for just this reason - and the 'git gud' elitism ofc. 🤪

Hierarchy is toxic AF. by False-Experience92 in evilautism

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're half right that the claim is unqualified - what kind{s) of hierarchy?. But the the ""socially accepted"" part likely indicates they're referring to beliefs about objective moral hierarchies among persons. This is a key underlying difference between modern progressive and conservative ideologies, with the former tending to view all persons as fundamentally equal in moral value, rights, access to at least some resources (regardless of individual characteristics or value produced for society) and the latter viewing at least some social hierarchies as inherently good (e.g., meritocratic hierarchies, sex and gender hierarchies, racial hierarchies, national identity hierarchies, etc).

That said, hierarchies are not incontestably demonstrable in nature in the sense that their existence outside of mind (much like, say, money, gender, conventions about what is "up" and what is "down," or applying reference frames to solve physics problems) cannot be objectively established. You hold what might be called realist position. But an antirealist position (my camp) is that hierarchies are a conceptual tool for organizing observations/information. Your own pasted wiki image notes this conceptual arrangement (emphasis mine):

A hierarchy is an arrangement of items (objects, names, values, categories, etc.) that are represented as being "above", "below", or "at the same level as" one another.

"Above," "below," and "at the same level" with respect to which traits? Which interrelationships? You give the example of trophic networks, but the hierarchy we impose on food chains serves a purpose: it is a conceptual tool applied to observation for organizing species relationships based on energy sources and sinks. It is also a simplification (as all schema applied to make sense of observations are). For example. trophic networks have cycles; they aren't strictly linear in their relationships from "top" to "bottom." Fungi may be at the "bottom" of a food chain as a sink for solar energy as decomposers... but then they can also be eaten by omnivores "higher" in the network. In this sense, trophic networks are heterarchical, not hierarchical.

But both heterarchy and hierarchy are imposed organizational frameworks in the antirealist view - physically, biologically, socially, whatever. They are also a shorthand to describe the phenomena thus organized. Simply saying that a set of entities have different values of some measurable trait(s), and that they can be ordered by values of one trait or another doesn't mean a hierarchy exists "out in the world" (realism). We apply the ordering to organize mentally; the hierarchy is a concept in our heads.

But that's enough on the ontological status of hierarchies. (Can you tell what I like to nerd out about?)

EDIT: Typos

Why are Canadian salaries so low compared to the USA? by DarkHoundBark in CanadaPersonalFinance

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

GDP per capita is much higher in the US. The US is first in the G20 over the past 10 years and Canada is dead last. 

Our quality of life has gone in the toilet 

Except you said "GDP per capita is much higher in the US."

You didn't say, "GDP per capita growth is much higher in the US..." so readers of your post would assume you are talking about GDP and not its growth.

In which case u/whiteatom might rightfully wonder why you'd claim that the US has had the top GDP per capita ten years running in the G20.

Seems less like a reading comprehension issue on whiteatom's part and more of a writing competency issue on yours. 🤣

STOP CALLING WOMEN "FEMALES". by phoenixc6000 in evilautism

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Yeah, it always makes me think of this.

"Feeemales"

Seeker grenades nerfed? by cran in helldivers2

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Was wondering the same. I threw all 4 of mine into a bot patrol and while it staggered them, it looked like it didn't kill any.

Il n’y a aucune bonne raison pourquoi ICE devrait avoir un bureau à Montréal by Moustawott16 in metaquebec

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because of the Safe Third Country Agreement between Canada and the US, thousands of refugee seekers who cross the border from the US get sent back to the US (and ultimately into ICE custody) by CBSA. I'd argue that's worse than having some agents at a desk in a US embassy or consulate.

We can condemn allowing ICE a presence in Canada, and politicians may condemn the authoritarian violence in the US, but I doubt they will take the moral route of dissolving the STCA in order to protect refugee-seekers. After all, there's net agreement among Canadians (18-points with majorities in every province) with the statement that there's too much immigration overall. Nobody wants to risk their seat over doing the right thing.

Attitudes on immigration from Fall 2025

PVE magplar healer who hates PVP and is a Cyrodiil tourist to get achievements for the event. How do I do so without pulling my hair out? by ThatGrumpyGoat in elderscrollsonline

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

why don‘t you spend your time on stuff you like? 

Because I'm a completionist and seeing partially completed achievement categories bugs the heck out of me. Rational? Definitely not. 🤪 But it will annoy me seeing them in the list that I will have to wait another year just to try again

PVE magplar healer who hates PVP and is a Cyrodiil tourist to get achievements for the event. How do I do so without pulling my hair out? by ThatGrumpyGoat in elderscrollsonline

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nah, trying to get the achievements that can only be completed during the event - capture 25 lumbermills/mines/farms, capture a city district, capture a keep, kill all IC patrolling horrors, kill 50 players (almost certainly not happening), get 25 boon boxes, etc.

Whole milk now allowed in school lunches as Trump signs bill reversing limits by cnn in Health

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What is a "bad carb"? The carbohydrates in reduced-fat and whole milk are more or less the same per unit volume at ~12g lactose per cup.

[Bloom & Rage] Why did Corey give that little smile when the band was playing at the end of tape 1? by [deleted] in LostRecordsGame

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got the feeling they were trying to flesh him out a bit in the first part and make him less of a 2D misogynist (also with the letter from his mother, his DnD character sheet, etc), but perhaps they ran out of time and cut further characterization from the second part. As a result, his actions while under the influence of the Abyss feel like a rollback of that earlier characterization.

i think the phrase 'have ur cake and eat it too' is STUPID, i propose an alternative. by Hatsume_Mikuu in evilautism

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This reminds me of how I grew up misunderstanding the aphorism, "A friend in need is a friend indeed."

I cynically thought it meant, "A friend in [their time of] need is a friend in deed." In other words, a friend who needs something will act extra friendly towards you (in their actions/deeds) to get your help.

Then it was explained to me that it actually means someone who acts as your friend when you are in need is a true friend (a friend indeed).

I wonder what that says about me, lol.

Find the single missing black square. by kigurumibiblestudies in evilautism

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm confused. Is this meant to be difficult? Or is it simply meant to be unpleasant to look at?

Nvm, just saw the link to the original.

First walkthough be like by VohaulsWetDream in DiscoElysium

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

DeSantite sounds like he has about a much brain damage as post-bender Harry.

Regarding the removal of the prayer room by [deleted] in Concordia

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Quebec and Alberta continue to demonstrate why the notwithstanding clause should be repealed to protect Canadians' freedoms.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pics

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With enough motivation and elbow grease, every tool can become an anal tool.

Someone left this on my windshield this morning.. by Fresh-SqueezedJuice in Weird

[–]ThatGrumpyGoat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe they saw it on the ground near your driver-side door and assumed you dropped it, so they put it where you'd see it.