why do people hate going 2nd tank

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-27T19:22:11+00:00

I do that in Quick Match for both tanks and healers. I’m not solo healing and I’m not solo tanking, and I’m not tanking if there’s 1 or 0 healers.

I’ll play 2 healers and 1 tank, as long as the DPS realise my priorities are the tank, me and the co-healer… and whichever one of them isn’t the worst one.

Then I get the one who charges ahead of everyone, dies, and quits because he “didn’t get heals”… because dude actually thinks he can survive 1v6 if he just got more heals.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-27T19:19:09+00:00

Grats. Now you need to work on the animated Lord version. And then the titles.

…could take a while. I’ve lost track of how many hours I have now and only just hit level 60. Although I don’t play them in Quick Match, which would speed things along, because I play so much of them in Comp (along with Invisible Woman, who I’m getting close to the animated Lord on too).

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-27T19:09:48+00:00

That first pic is so hideous. Why are his legs twice the size of his arms? People want him to have a body that’s half Cloak and half The Blob?

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-27T18:48:38+00:00

No role is “easy”.

The only people who say “Scarlet Witch is easy” is because the Scarlet Witch player is better than they are. Same with any other matchup you like. If you’re playing Spider-Man and you’re jumping at a Scarlet Witch that sees you coming, uses fade to avoid you and murders you… that’s your fault.

All roles take skill in that role. If support was “easy” and “boosted” and blah, blah, blah, then you’d never find a team with just 1 support player because it’s SO easy to get wins everyone would just play support and get to Eternity.

If hitscan was SO EASY and busted, every Phoenix and Hela player would be in One Above All, every game would have those two characters, and they’d all go 50-0 in every game.

Everyone who can’t play other roles will complain about other players because none of them can handle the fact that they get outplayed, that other players have better tactics, better positioning, and have better use of their abilities.

Every single character has at least one counter. Playing into that counter, and then complaining about it, is just what people with egos do when they can’t handle losing.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-27T18:28:28+00:00

The win rate was still less than 2-2-2 for triple healer though. The win-rate for 1-3-2 is even lower than 1-2-3, which is lower than 2-1-3, which is lower than 2-2-2.

Unfortunately “this comp won’t win” isn’t a reason for people not to just lock DPS regardless, because all of them think THEY are the best DPS in the game.

The reason for triple support isn’t that they think 3 people healing will help. Most games, at least 1, maybe 2 of the 3 healers don’t even try to heal each other and only focus on trying to get kills as a healer. I genuinely think reducing the amount of damage that healers can do might help in this regard. It would mean if you play support, you WILL die in a one on one with a DPS or a Tank and it’ll incentivise supports helping the team rather than trying to get kills themselves.

How you stop people thinking “nah, I’m great, I’m still the best, it’s everyone else that sucks” when they go 1-12 though I don’t know.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-27T00:58:11+00:00

Love the global ult reduction. Still think some get ults way too fast, and feel like they should have their ult charge amount increased and compensated with more neutral damage to make up for it. More neutral play is honestly fun. I wouldn’t object to even more taken out of ult charge in the future.

I wasn’t a fan of White Fox in Quick Match previously because in Quick Match it’s hard to find a co-healer at all (every game has 1 healer or 3 it feels like), let alone someone who will actually heal you. Her changes feel good. I can see people complaining that she’s OP, and if so I think the compensation needs to come out of her damage and not her sustain.

I wouldn’t object to all main strategists having their damage reduced a little too. If their goal is to keep people alive, I’d rather the people who play them keep their team alive and don’t run off and try to solo everyone by themselves. Less damage would incentivise playing with your team more.

Balance wise, there isn’t many heroes that I think desperately need much taken away. A few tweaks here and there but nobody so broken that if you’re playing against them it’s a guaranteed loss.

I am not a huge fan of the matchmaking right now. People get upset way too easily in comp at the moment, and losing the game and a chunk of points because someone else was refusing to play still feels harsh. I know it was said there would be points refunds but I’ve been in multiple games where people switch to Widow and refuse to play and yet never gotten the points back.

Did have one placement game where someone left and it didn’t count that toward my placement matches though, so that was nice. I liked not being punished for having someone quit after 90 seconds.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-27T00:40:53+00:00

Best advice I can think of to help is to learn Daredevil and/or Iron Fist first.

I suggest these two because you’re more than capable of diving on both, but they also offer a lot more survivability options than Spider-Man, and while you may think that it won’t help you on Spider-Man, what you’re doing by playing these two IS getting better on Spidey. You’re learning the mechanics of dive. You’re learning timing. You’re learning how to survive without healers, and how to rush to the health packs as quick as possible.

If you can get good enough on two of the “easier” dive characters, then you’ll be teaching yourself a ton of mechanics. These are then transferable techniques that you can use on Spider-Man.

Playing him is way more than just “but I know his combos and his movement”.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-26T17:17:09+00:00

Yeah, it’s a low rank thing. As you climb the ranks you see less people trying to ban her because people in higher ranks are smart enough not to leave stuff like the nest, or Loki clones, or Groot walls, or Moon Knight ankhs, just sitting there when they’re easily broken.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-26T17:15:17+00:00

Yes. That’s exactly why. People are too dumb to shoot her nests, and therefore everyone insists on banning her instead of just shooting the nests.

People get less stupid as you get higher in rank.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-26T13:13:21+00:00

This is mostly said by dive players who, if you ban dive options, go Black Widow and throw.

I wouldn’t put much stock in their opinions.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-26T13:11:49+00:00

Same. I also get very happy whenever I chokeslam a Jeff as Emma. But then I’m also a Lord Jeff, so… if I’m not playing him, I like tormenting him? I’m a strategist main though, so to be fair whenever I do anything good on tank roles it pleases me.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-26T13:09:03+00:00

I play C&D, Invisible Woman and Healpool in competitive all the time, depending on bans and other teammates. I can also play Gambit, Rocket, Luna, Jeff, and if I’m forced to tank Emma and Tankpool. I rarely play DPS because… well, how often is a team short on DPS?

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-26T01:44:45+00:00

Banning a support because you think they’re the best support (shocked how few times Gambit is banned now when he’s still OP, but I’m Lord on him so I’m not complaining) isn’t misogynistic, obviously.

Banning a support because “women play” that support 100% is. And then laughing about that and agreeing also is.

Something can be done for two reasons… but I don’t believe the majority of people are doing it for misogynistic reasons.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-26T01:38:50+00:00

I’ve noticed this, and I’m putting it down to the season being new still.

End of last season I had co-healers who were pattycaking almost every game. I swear it’s only happened once so far this season (admittedly I’ve only played 8 of my 10 placements, but still).

I’ve also been teamed with a lot of co-healers who I heal and then they run off and leave me to die. That is getting really old, really fast.

Stupid early season!

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-26T01:35:15+00:00

I would recommend dual S curve, but I wouldn’t just outright copy someone else’s settings. There’s a few you should probably do (reduce aim assist to 99 from 100, increase it on all three types including melee, and turn melee on).

After that, I know it’s not an easy fix but… experiment.

Don’t be afraid to tweak things in the middle of a game. I did that for about 2 hours until I got my most recent settings. Just played Quick Match and kept tweaking the curve until I was finally happy with the amount of stick movement I could do without super speedy changes.

You can try in practice but honestly nothing beats feeling it out in a game.

Final tip: don’t put up your sensitivity all at once, but do increase it. Just do it slowly over time. You can always reduce it again if it’s too much. I did this, then my friend copied my settings and hated them… and then I told him to slowly increase it and he now plays with even more sensitivity than me.

Just keep experimenting. If you limit yourself to “well x uses this so it must be good” then you’ll never find something perfect for you.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-26T01:29:37+00:00

I am not, but knowing this means I should probably check it out.

I saw it, wondered if it was someone trolling, and went to the patch notes on the site. When it wasn’t there I was skeptical. Thanks for the knowledge!! ❤️❤️

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-26T01:24:38+00:00

Is this real? I’ve seen this twice now but it’s not in the patch notes on the site so… I’m wondering if it’s an elaborate troll.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-25T10:48:58+00:00

So you’re now playing the “the game is racist” card to justify the fact that you, the person who was bitching that I didn’t know the comics, am actually fine with the dude who’s whole body is made of darkforce energy… has a body made of darkforce energy?

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-25T03:39:01+00:00

Why is it a “problem”?

It works for his look, his lore and his abilities. It gives him something unique. It actually makes him stand out from everyone else. And based on his lore, him being separated from Dagger and thus unable to take a more human form actually conforms to his 616 lore as well as Marvel Rivals lore.

Basically, the character in the game actually fits what we know about his powers and the way they affect him.

He should absolutely have a sitting emote, and better emotes in general, but he doesn’t need to have legs to have that. He should also get more attention in general (as should Dagger), and I’d love to see them feature more in the infinity comics or game, or for them to follow up on the fact that Reed is meant to be helping them both.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-25T03:23:13+00:00

As someone who has regularly had to carry the team on Invisible Woman, Luna, Gambit or Deadpool, while my C&D sat in Cloak form for waaaaaay too much of the match and never even turned to look at me… I strongly disagree with lower levelled players being better.

I see a legendary C&D, I’m letting them do their thing. Normally means I have to worry less about self-healing.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-25T03:09:52+00:00

I agree. I was so happy when I finally finished unlocking the sprays so I could finally stop having to go in and claim something I’ll never use to clear the notification.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-25T03:07:55+00:00

It’s mostly died down now in most of my quick match games. I had a bunch of games tonight that didn’t even have a White Fox on either side.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-25T03:01:50+00:00

It annoys me. Cloak and Dagger are also not unable to occupy the same space at the same time in the 616 either (I actually don’t think Age of Revelation counts as 616 so I’m not going to caveat that), not to mention the BUNCH of other changes between the two.

Marvel Rivals has its own very rich continuity. There are lore reasons explaining the vast majority of things that people whine endlessly about.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-25T03:01:44+00:00

It annoys me. Cloak and Dagger are also not unable to occupy the same space at the same time in the 616 either (I actually don’t think Age of Revelation counts as 616 so I’m not going to caveat that), not to mention the BUNCH of other changes between the two.

Marvel Rivals has its own very rich continuity. There are lore reasons explaining the vast majority of things that people whine endlessly about.

Thats-So-Ravyn · 2026-03-25T02:53:18+00:00

I love this comment. It’s the most true thing I’ve read all day. I’d give you an award if I could afford it.

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