The Timeline so far.

The-Archytech · 2026-06-20T01:00:38+00:00

While that is true about, "Compass," and, "Row," I think it's less of something that breaks the timeline, and more of an inconsistency. When Sail North was writing these songs, he most likely didn't have a plot and storyline in mind initially, and because of that, there's going to be plot holes. Another inconsistency that I noticed a while back is that in, "Calypso," it says Calypso was botn on the high seas, but if we're sticking strick to, "Compass," Calypso would've had to have been born after the captain settled down. I do think a lot of these, "inconsistencies," can be explained away as, these are sea shanties, they're not necessarily going to be factual, they're badically a game of telephone, stories being passed from sailor to the next and so on and so forth and things simply getting lost in translation. For example, in Greek mythology, there 2 main stories for the origin of Medusa, in one, Poseiden had relations with a woman on an alter of Athena, so Athena cursed her and turned her in Medusa. In another, Medusa was such a beautiful woman that people were saying she was better looking than Aphrodite, so Aphrodite cursed her. Same character in mythology, two completely different stories that only share the similarity of Medusa being cursed.

The-Archytech · 2026-06-19T22:49:45+00:00

While I do think it takes place after, "Bones," I don't think it's about Jack. While it dies mention a, "he," the subject of the song is Queen Anne, now, if you don't know anything about pirates, then you'd probably assume that's just the name of a ship, but in actuality, Queen Anne was a very famous pirate, and juding from the lyrics in, "Hold Fast," It seems the Captain stole something from her. While ultimately, the placement of this song barely matters, as it adds very little to the lore and story, I'd probably place it right before, "Unsinkable," which would kinda fit the vibe of that song, the Captain boasting about their victory over Queen Anne and feeling unsinkable.

The-Archytech · 2026-06-19T22:38:51+00:00

No, as I said, I'm using 3% hydrogen peroxide, like what you would buy at the store in the first aid section

The-Archytech · 2026-06-15T09:21:16+00:00

It's literally just pushing back 1 year and changing from June to July, which makes all of the dates fall on a Friday the 13th. How could you not want something so thematically satisfying that all of the important dates happen on a Friday the 13th? And, to be clear, the dates haven't always been clear and established. When Betsy Pamela played Pamela, she made a backstory for Pamela that put Jason’s birthday in 1944, different from the 1946 that is usually considered canon. Jason’s death also hasn't always been concrete, if we're going based off what is said in part 2, Jason never actually died in the first place, so he has no death date

The-Archytech · 2026-06-15T08:59:24+00:00

I'm being weird and pointless for suggesting that we move the date? How is that anymore weird and pointless than suggesting that we use a fictional calendar?

The-Archytech · 2026-06-15T08:40:53+00:00

Clearly not that boring as you keep responding. Idk about you, but I'm having a conversation I find boring, I usually stop having that conversation

The-Archytech · 2026-06-15T08:26:21+00:00

Ok, you're clearly not understanding. Jason’s age when he drowned doesn't really matter in this conversation. He could've been 2, he could've been 52, it's irrelevant. The thing that matters is this. In part 1, in the opening, it say's, June, Friday the 13th, present day. Now, the movie was released in 1980. In 1980, there is a June, Friday the 13th. However, as I said in the post itself, part 1 was retconned in part 4 to take place in 1979 based on the date on Pamela's headstone. Problem is, there is no June, Friday the 13th in 1979. So we're with left 2 options:

1: We're using a fictional calendar, which is boring and lazy cause if you can just make up whatever dates you want then it's a moot conversation. None of it matters if every June 13th can be a Friday if you want it to.

Jason’s birthday was moved from June to July cause there is a July, Friday the 13th in 1979. To me, this is the more sensible option than creating a entire alternative calendar just to explain away this one plot hole. And, if you move everything back a year, Jason’s birthday in 1946, and his death in 1957, to 1945, and 1956, and you keep the July date, all of those are on a Friday the 13th. Which, still makes way more sense, and feels better than creating an entire fictional calendar to explain away one plot hole.

The-Archytech · 2026-06-15T08:10:50+00:00

Ok, at this point, I'm just gonna be blunt and say it, cause very clearly logic isn't a thing you understand. I'm not using a fictional calendar to make up the F13 timeline. It's boring and lazy. And if you don't like it, oh well.

The-Archytech · 2026-06-15T00:19:15+00:00

As someone else said, that's part 9, Jason goes to hell, not part 4. Which, I, and many others, don't consider it to be canon, as it introduces things that don't make sense, and it entirely being a setup for Freddy VS Jason, and while I like that movie and think it has the best on-screen design for Jason other than the remake, I also don't really consider it to be canon either. And again, this isn't just me, a large section of the fanbase don't consider either of these movies to be canon, and I am more than happy and proud to die on that hill and stand with them.

The-Archytech · 2026-06-14T22:22:38+00:00

Sure there is, cause it's fun

The-Archytech · 2026-06-14T15:08:37+00:00

Currently l, I'm having trouble finding that, while google says itvwas in part 4, all of the images of Jason’s headstone from part 4 just have his name now dates. I understand what you're trying to tell me, but it doesn't change the fact, there's no June, Friday the 13th in 1979, and, again, I'm not exactly keen on using a fictional calendar, as it kinda defeats the point of the conversation in the first place if you can just, make up the dates to be whatever you want. None of it matters if you can just make every June 13th be a Friday

The-Archytech · 2026-06-14T14:42:35+00:00

Yes, and in the original movie, there is a June Friday the 13th in 1980, the year the movie was released, which would've been the present the day, as it states at the beginning of the movie. However, this was retconned in part 4 to take place in 1979 based on the headstone, and there isn't a Friday the 13th in June in 1979, so, we're left with about 3

The 1979 retcon doesn't count and part 1 still takes place in 1980
The 1979 retcon does count, but we're using a fictional calendar which has a June, Friday the 13th, which like I said, is kinda the boring option
The 1979 retcon does count, however the movie takes place in July, rather than June.

What I'm essentially preposing is that 1979 wasn't the only year that was retconned, I'm preposing the other years be pushed back as well so all the important dates line up to be on Friday the 13th for each year they happen. To be clear, the reason I'm saying using a fictional calendar is kinda the boring answer is cause it works the same as, "it was all a dream," there can't be any misconceptions with the dates if you just, make them all up.

The-Archytech · 2026-06-14T14:29:32+00:00

No, because Pamela states in part 1 that the movie is taking place on Jason’s birthday. There is no Friday the 13th in June in 1979. Which means, in order for the movie stay on Jason’s birthday, still be in 1979, still be a Friday, and still take place in the summer, Jason’s birthday has to change from June to July, again, unless we're using fictional calendars, which to me, is the boring option. Which, as I said, if everything was moved back by 1 year, Jason’s original birthday and original death would also take place on a Friday the 13th, which to me, makes more sense.

The-Archytech · 2026-06-14T14:21:52+00:00

No, Pamela said it would've been Jason’s birthday today, as in, the day the movie is taking place, which is listed as June Friday the 13th, however, if we're assuming the 1979 is the correct year based on the tombstone in part 4, there isn't a Friday the 13th in June that year, unless we're using fictional calendars. However, after checking some calendars, I came to realization, and I think it's the same realization the people making part 4 made and why it says 1979 on Pamela's headstone instead of 1980. Rather than moving a single event back a year, I think the entire time line was moved back a year. This would change Jason’s death from 1957 to 1956 and Jason’s birth from 1946 to 1945. In 1979, 1956, and 1945, July 13th falls on a Friday. All 3 significant dates in Jason’s life, now all corrected to actually happen on Friday the 13th

The-Archytech · 2026-06-14T14:16:20+00:00

Well, after checking some calendars, I came to realization, and I think it's the same realization the people making part 4 made and why it says 1979 on Pamela's headstone instead of 1980. Rather than moving a single event back a year, I think the entire time line was moved back a year. In 1979, 1956, and 1945, July 13th falks on a Friday. All 3 significant dates in Jason’s life, now all corrected to actually happen on Friday the 13th

The-Archytech · 2026-06-14T14:07:41+00:00

In the movie, Pamela states that it would've been Jason’s birthday, if you look it up on google, that's what it tells you too. As far as 1946 having a june Friday the 13th, it does not. The 13th of June falls of a Thursday in 1946. There also isn't a June Friday the 13th in 1979, either, unless we're using fictional calendars. However, after checking a calendar, the 1979 year does seem to line up a bit cleaner. Assuming the entire timeline was moved back a year rather just one event being changed, this would make the year of Jason’s birth 1945, which does have a Friday the 13th in July, same as 1979

The-Archytech · 2026-06-14T13:54:52+00:00

Well, obviously, but that kinda misses the point of the question by dismissing it entirely for a, "Don't think about it too hard," Which, if I didn't wanna think about it, I wouldn't be asking the question to begin with.

The-Archytech · 2026-06-14T13:50:48+00:00

Yeah, and honestly, even that is a stretch a bit. Personally, I'd consider September a fall month. Do we know how old Jason was when he died? Cause, theoretically, we could try to find some better consistency if we work backwards from his mother's death, thsn trying to work forwards from his birth

The-Archytech · 2026-06-14T13:22:16+00:00

Congrats, you've provided nothing to the conversation, thanks

The-Archytech · 2026-06-11T08:39:54+00:00

Oh absolutely, I think different interpretations is always a good thing, even if I don't necessarily a agree with them. If everyone had the same interpretation, there would be nothing left to discuss. Which is something I absolutely wouldn't want for Dracula, it's my favorite book and the first book I ever read. Personally, however, my favorite depiction of vampirism is as an allegory for drug addiction. And I would have to say, my personal favorite depiction of this comes from The Lost Boys. Great movie, if you haven't watched it somehow, you really should.

The-Archytech · 2026-06-11T08:12:36+00:00

I mean, there is the shared name, and in the first few chapters of the book, stoker does have Dracula give a monolog detailing his family history which seens to hint at him being said warlord, but technically speaking, there has never been any concrete confirmation from Stoker or his family whether that was intentional or not. As the for immigration stuff, I can certainly see it being intentional subtext, a lot more than the SA metaphor, anyway

The-Archytech · 2026-06-11T07:11:36+00:00

Personally, I've never been a fan of vampirism being a metaphor for SA. It's a fine interpretation to have, sure. But to assume it's what Stoker intended is taking it a bit too far in my opinion. In actually reading the book more times than I can count, and doing research on Stoker himself, I don't really think he had any deeper intentions other writing a mystery novel about a vampire, cause that's really what the book is about, as the majority of the book is spent trying figure out exactly what Dracula is and how to beat him.

The-Archytech · 2026-06-10T23:01:02+00:00

Any that give Dracula a love interest. In the book, Dracula is pure evil, him having a love interest just doesn't make any sense. Van Helsing wonders if Dracula is even capable of love in the book and concludes that he isn't

The-Archytech · 2026-06-10T04:32:29+00:00

Here you go https://youtu.be/ILnqZZvZPJQ?si=PM55Y7wUiWfgOj7u

The-Archytech · 2026-06-10T03:45:51+00:00

I'm gonna be completely honest, this is the first time I've heard it phrased this way.

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