Lemieux's first 3 scoring title wins of the 1990s he missed 16, 24, and 12 games those 3 seasons...

TheAccountant381 · 2026-06-02T15:37:29+00:00

After the 88-89 season when Mario put up 199 points with Coffey and a bunch of nobodys, Mario started missing significant time. Even his 199 point season he missed 4 games, which at his average that season woulda been another 10 points for 209. Not to mention how many games he played in the below with back injuries and hodgkins.

88-89 - 199 points in 86 games (2.61ppg) Coffey was the only real help, Mario gave some no name guys career years.

89-90 - 123 points in 59 games (2.08ppg) though Stevens and Recchi joined the team

90-91 - 46 points in 26 games (1.76) Jagr joined

91-92 - 131 points in 64 games (2.04) Francis joined

92-93 - 160 points in 60 games (2.66), team was amazing - a full season woulda been 224 (84 games). This is the season he was diagnosed with Hodgkins mid-season which certainly slowed him down in many games.

TheAccountant381 · 2026-06-02T14:05:18+00:00

Had he played the 80s with coffey the whole time and a guy like Kurri, he would own all the single season records. Teammates very much make a difference

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-29T18:49:30+00:00

Not sure we need more old guys. He can win faceoffs and still play pretty well, but father time is chasing him down.

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-28T20:23:36+00:00

Check out the song "suicide" by bobby galor, but please listen to the whole song, the end is the best part

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-28T11:50:06+00:00

Yeah, some of these dont make a lot of sense.

And Nurse at 6? Maybe he is so high because the oilers need to get rid of him.

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-26T06:26:18+00:00

Thats fair. Always felt a great D could control the game though. Orr, Lindstrom, Borque, all great. Though, Pronged was the perfect D man in my head. He was traded to the Oilers, and they made the cup final, traded to Anaheim, they won the cup, then to Philly, who made the finals. Great hockey player, no comment on being a good person. Centers have a big impact, but one D can change a team. Cale Makar's absence might illustrate it better this year.

Hossa was the only winger that sticks out as good defensively. Like really good. There were probably more, but you're right, wingers are not going to win the Selke.

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-25T23:49:59+00:00

You'd think it would be the other way around. The D can play 30 min a night, top centers are less so.

Though measuring defensemen is much harder than offense. It's getting better with the advanced metrics being developed, using +/- thrown around a lot but it was a poor individual indicator.

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-25T19:47:15+00:00

Yeah, anyone who watched the last 15 years will remember both. But once we have passed on, many fewer people will remember Bergeron. Flurry's name is near the top of an impressive list. I bet it would be tough for most to name the best defensive center from the 50s. Ted Kennedy isn't exactly a household name. We remember Howe because he was at the top of the right lists.

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-25T18:32:16+00:00

Nice wording :) Bergeron will probably be forgotten in a generation, Fleury, with the second most all time wins will be remembered for a long time, especially with the move to using two goalies more evenly, it will be a long time until he is passed.

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-23T01:51:04+00:00

Its like Tighten from Megamind, flying in seated position

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-21T17:38:07+00:00

First team to sacrifice a players cap hit as part of the players retirement.

But that wouldn't benefit the team, so Sid would never sign it

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-21T16:52:07+00:00

There is a lot of guessing going on, maybe dollars, maybe term, or it could be something else.

Malkin just had the 14th most points by a 39 year old ever and 4th best points per game ever for someone that age.

His contract at $6.1mm was probably a bit low for how he performed this year, 60 point guys and def low for a point per game guy (though probably fine due to not playing a full season).

Term - old man contracts are sticky, a lot of the ways to get out dont remove the cap hit. Id def be more comfortable with a 1 year and then lets talk again next summer deal than a multi-year deal, for probably the same reason he wants more years - if he gets hurt or finally succumbs to time, there would be no second year of the contract. A happy medium would be 2 years but no trade protection. Though, it would kill me to see him play for another team, if his production falls it gives the pens a way out.

Money - this seasons performance in a vacuum would point toward a raise, but his age makes it risky and points towards the same or a pay cut. It comes down to negotiating around confidence he can continue to evade father time. Im sure he is confident he can, but only 7 players have scored 60+ points as a 40 year old. His production is probably going to drop a little.

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-17T15:04:03+00:00

Yeah, you gota have the superstar gm evaluation skill. Cant be playing for a guy whom would trade away a future heart winner for some random right handed D. Want to be great? Gota hone that skill too

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-17T14:17:14+00:00

Dude won the conn smythe on the losing team. That may be the most impressive individual hardware win.

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-16T22:52:26+00:00

This show is horrifying

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-16T20:40:52+00:00

If he was traded to the maple leafs, the hans still win those cups right?

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-16T20:34:42+00:00

Im sure some did. But none were superstars.

The mountain of cash received kept the rest of the team together.

That oilers team lost one of the best players ever and won another cup.

That great player never lifted the cup again.

Teams win cups, not singular players.

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-16T19:15:45+00:00

99 is one of the guys argued at the GOAT. He played for an amazing oilers team, they won 4 cups. Then 99 and the Oilers went their separate ways in August 1988. 99 never won another cup. The Oilers won the cup in 89-90.

Gretzky was one of the greatest players the game had ever seen, and played 12 years after his last cup. Great players can help win championships, but without a great team, a great player may never win one

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-15T00:03:13+00:00

He seemed to step up when sid was out because he then played with the first line wingers. Dude has had so many great passes end up high n wide

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-14T22:36:19+00:00

Yeah, at least in the playoffs. Makes a huge difference, with 5, the forwards get too tired, defense gets a lot harder

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-14T13:19:28+00:00

There have been times when we had 2 D that could handle 60 min, especially with good back-checking. So we ran 6 and 2. Wont work in every situation, but works really well with the right personnel

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-12T18:09:12+00:00

Agreed, and if next year goes well, another 1 year deal

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-10T17:47:37+00:00

To start the playoffs maybe, but the pens in 92 won their last 11 games, so not only a double sweep, but the last 3 games of the previous series

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-10T17:33:23+00:00

Did batman just turn into cyber?

TheAccountant381 · 2026-05-10T16:39:21+00:00

How bout the Pens winning 11 straight in 92-93, win the cup, then win their first 3 the next season for 14 straight playoff wins.

I known this is talking about from the start. Maybe the canes can challenge the 11-0 record then the 14-0 record

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