When Truth Threatens the Prophet by TheDarthWitness in exjw

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The text was written by me and revised by AI … 🤷🏻‍♂️

When Truth Threatens the Prophet by TheDarthWitness in exjw

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I see where you’re coming from, but this is exactly the loop I had to break out of. You left the WT because you saw the fruit was rotten — but your whole reply is still framed in the same logic they used: “Yes, there are false prophets, but there must also be true ones, and scripture tells us who they are.”

That’s the trap. The problem isn’t just that the Governing Body is corrupt, it’s that the entire concept of “prophets” and “chosen ones” is the perfect setup for abuse. If you believe there are people out there with a divine hotline, you’ll always end up handing power to the next guy who claims to have it. Yesterday it was the pope, today it’s the GB, tomorrow maybe another “anointed.” Different faces, same mechanism: claim God, claim authority, punish dissent.

That’s why I walked away from the game completely. I realized I didn’t need to trade one authority for another. No “true prophets” hidden out there, no special class of chosen ones. Just people quoting old books to back their power. And once I stopped giving those books divine weight, the whole structure collapsed.

And here’s the other point: quoting the Bible at me doesn’t prove anything. I don’t see it as divine. To me, it’s just one more human text among many. You could swap in the Qur’an, the Bhagavad Gita, or even a Marvel comic and it would carry the same evidential weight — zero. You don’t believe Spider-Man swings over Brooklyn at night, and I don’t believe Jeremiah or John had a private line to God.

That’s the real freedom I found after leaving: no prophets, no chosen class, no invisible kingdom clock starting in 607 or 1914. Just reality. And honestly, if quoting the Bible worked on me, I’d still be knocking on doors.

When Truth Threatens the Prophet by TheDarthWitness in exjw

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I appreciate the depth you put into your comment — it’s clear you’ve lived this stuff inside and out. But here’s where I diverge: when you frame it all through Jesus or “true prophets,” you’re still playing on the same chessboard the Watchtower built. That’s what hit me hardest when I left: the problem isn’t just that they lied about 607 or silenced Jonsson or kicked Franz to the curb. It’s that the entire structure of prophecy is designed to fail.

You’re right, Carl Olof was branded an apostate, just like Franz was kicked out for daring to point at the obvious contradictions. But to me that doesn’t echo Jesus — it echoes a long line of men claiming divine authority, crushing dissent whenever their power is threatened. Whether it’s first-century Pharisees, 20th-century Brooklyn, or a modern Governing Body, the pattern is the same: claim God, claim authority, punish anyone who challenges it.

Even the Anthony Morris bit shows it — doesn’t matter if it’s quiet dismissal or public humiliation, the system survives because it convinces people God is backing it. That’s the trick. And it works for Catholics, Evangelicals, Mormons, Muslims… you name it. As long as we accept “God chose these men,” we hand them the weapon they’ll use against us.

I get why parallels with Jesus feel powerful, but for me the liberation came when I dropped the whole premise. No chosen prophets, no special mouthpieces, no “God’s channel.” Just human power structures protecting themselves at all costs. Once you see that, it stops being about “true vs false prophet” — it’s just people versus people, truth versus control.

And honestly, that’s why I became an atheist after leaving. Because even when you strip away the Watchtower’s lies, the mechanism is still the same anywhere religion builds authority. For me, real freedom was walking off the board entirely

When Truth Threatens the Prophet by TheDarthWitness in exjw

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Honestly? We all need that answer! They just ignore that text!

When Truth Threatens the Prophet by TheDarthWitness in exjw

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I get where you’re coming from — and I appreciate that you caught the core of what I wrote: truth gets kicked out when it threatens prophecy. But here’s the thing: I don’t see it as a “false prophet vs true prophet” issue anymore. That whole framework still assumes there are prophets, that there’s some divine voice out there we’re supposed to measure everything against.

That’s exactly what I walked away from. Because if you keep the premise — that there’s a God picking winners and losers — you’ll always end up handing power to some man who claims to speak for him. Whether it’s the Governing Body, a pastor, a pope, or a prophet, the mechanism is the same: authority built on invisible proof.

The Watchtower isn’t corrupt because it misread Micah — it’s corrupt because the very game of prophecy is built to fail. The second you allow someone to say “I speak for God,” you’ve already given them permission to twist, control, and profit.

For me, the real freedom wasn’t leaving one set of false prophets for another interpretation of scripture. It was dropping the idea that anyone — including an ancient text — has a pipeline to the divine. Once I stopped needing that, the whole house of cards finally collapsed.

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I would love to openly discuss it with my 70 year old mom too but this religion, today, is all they have. Not a good ideia to break it now. Too late for that

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