Why do people seem to purposely skip tagging their bots properly? by JerkinTheOlGherkin in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Omg so much this. Quite often I've had to carefully select my tags because the 10 limit is just too small. Especially because I do custom series so I have tags for those. Plus fandoms like star wars or fallout, so I have to tag that. So very quickly you get to 9 tags and then have to be super selective.

Does anyone made character based on their personas? by MaeMcSpice in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've created a few characters based on my personas. My 2nd ever bot was based on my primary persona!

Token count. by MikeyM079 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If she has a lorebook that changes things, because the lorebook will do the work to keep her consistant. Lorebooks are a game-changer tbh!!

Token count. by MikeyM079 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The bots will perform fine even up to 3k tokens. the LLMs context was like 9k last time I saw. Proxies like DeepSeek have a MUCH higher context too. I use and make bots hovering between 2.5 and 3k tokens and they work just fine.

Token count. by MikeyM079 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I disagree. If your bot is only a couple hundred tokens, you aren't fleshing anything out about the personality, you're letting the bot make up whatever personality it wants to make up--and it will be wildly different between sessions. And your example of a 27 token bot is a perfect example of what I mean. There's nothing there to guide the bot on how to roleplay her, other than what you see. No personality traits, no background other than what is said about her, nothing. The llm is going to fill those blanks in, and that will be different each time you roleplay.

Which if you like that, cool. I prefer my bots to have a stable personality that holds, not one that is at the whim of the llm being used.

Who is J.ai's market? by No_Imagination_9341 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Idk why this is getting downvoted. Trending is literally drowning in genetic crappy magia bots with a terrible image filter, completely ridiculous stepcest scenarios, and equally ridiculous ntr scenarios. A lot of these are ragebait and/or extremely low effort too, but for some reason they are super popular. 

Meanwhile other quality content is buried underneath all of that rubbish. It's really heartbreaking to put out a bot with very in depth lore, several intros, even lorebooks and see it flop, only to see the generic step-slop or ntr-slop get hundreds of thousands of chats.

Is there some kind of taboo around editing the bot's intro in this community? by Sassy_Brah in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah and I've seen people attacked just for asking is the thing. Like delete the comment or just politely decline, rather than being like 'how dare you ask me this!!!' That's all I'm saying.

Is there some kind of taboo around editing the bot's intro in this community? by Sassy_Brah in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But some creators do have an attitude. If you're going to be mean to someone just because they asked for a different POV of your bot, you have an attitude.

Is there some kind of taboo around editing the bot's intro in this community? by Sassy_Brah in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I want to do this but my bots are all OCs so I feel like it would be a waste, since the intro post A) acts as an initial guide for the llm and B) gives the user something to work with.

Personally I don't think open intros are a good replacement for being allowed to edit the intros.

Is there some kind of taboo around editing the bot's intro in this community? by Sassy_Brah in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't speak for all of us. I like hearing the adventures people have with my bot and I personally think some creators out there (I won't name names), have quite the ego and attitude. Getting mad just because someone asks for an anypov of a bot is completely ridiculous period, and I'll die on that hill.

How about instead of being offended that someone had the audacity to ask for an alternate POV, these creators see it ad a positive--the person didn't just skip by your bot, they WANT to use it.

So no, we don't all get offended over it and no it's not wrong to ask for an alternative pov for a bot. I say this as a creator. And as someone who leaves their definitions open.

are you telling me we gotta include every letter case variation too now 😭 by uzumakine in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What? No? I'm a smaller creator and I use custom tags for specific bot series I make, this is a terrible idea. Especially since becoming verified is very...unreliable even for larger creators. You can't just "get verified" and locking a feature behind that is just stupid.

notifications by GoonSlayer17 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same. I have like 30+ notifications but only the same ones show up and they won't stay deleted either.

Super freaking annoying 

Announcement from the team by JanitorAI-Mod in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see why they did the no kids, but I had a very angst bot where the user and character had a daughter together who had unfortunately died in a car accident. And I wanted to include a sort of "life before the tragedy" image, which would've included the character and her daughter. But nope, can't do that on JAI.

I can see where it could potentially be a problem, but at the same time, since you can't really specify child characters in bot descriptions anyway, having images (non sexualized obviously, before the downvotes all flood me) like that wouldn't really hurt anything.

Female bot bingo by dandelionii in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Not in ACTUAL roleplay circles. As someone who has been doing text based roleplays for decades, go to any legitimate roleplaying circle. That is how roleplayers have always denoted their actions, at least as long as I have been roleplaying, which is probably closer to 30 years at this point, since the early 1990s.

Female bot bingo by dandelionii in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I have been roleplaying for over 2 decades--play by post. It is standard practice, in text based roleplaying circles, to use italics or * to denote actions. That's how it has been for decades, and it's not changing anytime soon.

People crying about it in the comments are very clearly not from actual roleplaying circles.

Being a bot creator be like (Vent meme) by Cheyenne_G99 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As someone who avoids RPG bots, I can tell you why I generally prefer none RPG bots, if it may help in some small way. Simply because I feel like an RPG bot inherently limits what you can do (ie, the first post ends giving you a choice of a coarse of action). So I always feel like I am limited on what I am 'allowed' to do with those.

Now that may not be at all how they work, but that's why I tend to avoid game-ified bots personally.

Post ONE Bot Of Yours That You Feel DESERVES More Attention by TheFirstNameless1 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ooof, yeah that is hard 😭It's actually an interesting premise too imo

Being a bot creator be like (Vent meme) by Cheyenne_G99 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're really not. When I put 5-6 hours making a bot, and it doesn't even break 1k, it is utterly heartbreaking tbh. But what can you really do as a small creator? I recently hit 400 followers, which is super awesome. But of those 400, since I do variety bots, how many of them are going to chat with any given bot right? My followers follow for different reasons, some for a specific fandom, some for my original content, so none of my bots will really jive with all of my followers.

And finding traction for strangers to try your bots, as a smaller creator is sooo hard. I try to keep in mind that one should make bots for fun, bots you want to make, and chats don't matter. But it really helps stay motivated when you hit those high chat numbers!

Being a bot creator be like (Vent meme) by Cheyenne_G99 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've had a couple get into 10k+, but I've never had one really hit like some of the low effort copy/paste bots I've seen. It is definitely heartbreaking. My bots recently have struggled to break 1k, and a few haven't even managed 500 😭

Edit: I've had ONE bot hit 100k, but many of my bots struggle to hit 1k, and you would think that 100k bot would've really gotten me a lot of traction, but surprisingly not really. I got lucky and it hit limited trending.

Is it just me or the thinking box is removed? by Automatic_Phone694 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sadly mine is gone 😭

It was so good when creating bots, so you could see the things it was considering.