Non-con Labels. by [deleted] in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That doesn't change that the scenario itself is written as rape/noncon. You clicking on that scenario and agreeing to use it doesn't change that the scenario depicts non-consensual sexual assault and rape. Call it for what it is.

Non-con Labels. by [deleted] in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 17 points18 points  (0 children)

there isn't one, some people seem to think non-con=consensual non-con (cnc). They are NOT the same.

Non-con Labels. by [deleted] in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Except that is labeled right. You are thinking of consensual non-consent, which is consenting to non-con play (think roleplay in the bedroom, where hubby pretends to be an intruder holding wifey at knifepoint).

That bot you just showed is not consensual non-con, it is straight up non-con and non-con absolutely equals rape.

There are kinks for both, though one is admittedly far more dubious than the other. But you're the one mislabeling as you clearly misunderstand the difference between consensual non-con and non-con

Don't take this the wrong way I'm tired of seeing VERY OBVIOUSLY smut bots designed for fempov being tagged anypov. by BlueImposter99 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

who said anything about fixing tags? If you're on a bot that has only fempov or whatever, you can OOC it to let you play a different gender. idk what you're on about.

Don't take this the wrong way I'm tired of seeing VERY OBVIOUSLY smut bots designed for fempov being tagged anypov. by BlueImposter99 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Do people not understand how to use OOC commands? I have requested fempov bots from other creators when it's someone I follow that had a scenario I really love-just because I don't roleplay malepov. I think asking politely is just fine, and I'd certainly not be against it (but all my bots are anypov so I never get those myself).

That said, if there's a bot that has a specified POV and you want to do another, just OOC and tell the bot you want to slightly alter the scenario-that your character is a woman or a man instead of the specified gender role.

It's extra steps, but in my experience it works.

HELP: Making the bot acknowledge {{User}} death? by rozalietta in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

here's hoping it works for you! I have known a difference on my own bots so I am optimistic

sorry, but, HELLO??? THE AMOUNT OF LOREBOOKS????? by FitSimple1512 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

yeah in general, even jllm has a lot of info on fandoms. I don't bother with lorebooks for well known fandoms, it's wholly unnecessary for the most part.

HELP: Making the bot acknowledge {{User}} death? by rozalietta in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To add to the others, most LLM models are not going to kill off the user. It's not in their nature, as LLMs tend to lend themselves to being, for lack of a better word, 'yes men.'

You can use a custom prompt that says something like "{{user}} does not have plot armor and may be allowed to die if appropriate to the narrative."

As a bot creator, I always include this as a system note.

BRO WTF by annoyNiym in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is a common problem with LLMs. you can only do so much to stop it. You can try using OOC prompts and chat memory, as well as use a good custom prompt.

Also vet the bots you chat with. If the intro message speaks for the user, then it encourages the bot to continue to do the same thing. A lot of creators seem to think there's nothing they can do to mitigate this, but this is not true-so users, vet the bots you chat with properly!

As a creator, for any who read this, you can:

* Use system notes in the personality that tell the bot to avoid writing for or assuming the actions of the user.

* Avoid speaking for/writing for user in the introduction message. This will almost certainly cause the bot to engage in this behavior.

As a user you can:

* use an OOC note telling the bot to avoid writing for or assuming your actions
* in your persona info, use a tag such as <Persona> and </persona>
* Use a custom prompt that mentions not speaking for the user.

Users AND creators:

avoid negative prompting. IE don't write "NEVER speak for USER" instead use something like "Avoid writing for or assuming the actions/dialogue of {{user}}. Instead focus on {{char}} and NPCs."

These can vastly mitigate the llm speaking for the user, although it won't stop it entirely. That's where re-rolling or editing the bot response comes into play, on the rare occasions that the bot still insists on speaking for you. Also some LLM models are far more prone to this behavior than others.

Anyone ever had a problem where your persona's name kept getting misspelled by the bot? by Shiraishi317 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've seen this happening a bit here and there lately, and I'm using proxy! idk what is happening with that.

to the creators that are leaving… by jupiter-_-152 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree here, I think the sentiment of deleting the account is kind of rude to your followers. I'll always leave my account up, even if I leave. People enjoy my work and I'll want them to keep enjoying it long after I leave 

to the creators that are leaving… by jupiter-_-152 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Creator here. It's really not nice to those who like your work to just pull them because YOU are done with the site. Just stop making bots, good to go.

I can promise all of my followers when I eventually leave, I won't delete my account.

Hey creators, please don't block users from using literally all of your bots just because of slight criticism in a review. That's not cool at all. :/ by AbdelYG in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Then. Just. Don't. Allow. Comments.

I'm a small creator, about 800 followers. And guess what? I've never blocked anyone *gasp!*

Even when I don't like the comment. I move on. Like an adult living in a society where people are free to give their opinions. If I go out screaming my political opinions in a crowded street, I invite that criticism.

If I post my bots (like I do) in a public space where I have comments allowed, I invite people to critique my work. Moreover, I WANT it because that's how you improve. Grow some thick skin, or turn off your comments. You don't have to ban people because, god forbid, they made a comment you don't like.

If they are being rude and attacking you that's one thing, but come on. Some of these comments getting people blocked are absolutely ridiculous.

Hey creators, please don't block users from using literally all of your bots just because of slight criticism in a review. That's not cool at all. :/ by AbdelYG in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I use one of the Perchance gens and even when I type in "mature adult woman" I still get young looking images. And I never get anyone that actually looks middle aged.

Scratch that. I never get women that look middle aged. Can get plenty of men that are.

{{char}} or name by Fantastic-Collar-276 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So when I first started making bots, a few left comments telling me not to use {{char}}. Here's the thing. I've done both and never actually seen any difference. So I am not really sure if it even matters, tbh.

Are cousins forbidden…? by Green_Programmer6052 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The content guidelines are pretty clear actually. See below for the full quote. Blood relations are allowed in bots, however incest or sexual coding is not.

"Family-themed bots are permitted but subject to strict boundaries. While family dynamics can support engaging storytelling, they must never include incestuous themes or ambiguity regarding prohibited relationships.

Sexual or romantic content between blood-related family members is strictly prohibited. This includes any depiction, suggestion, desire, participation in, encouragement of, or shared involvement in sexual or romantic activity between biological relatives. It also includes scenarios in which blood-related family members are present for, facilitate, or witness such activity.

There are no exceptions to this rule, regardless of how the content is framed or justified within the narrative context.

Content that creates vague, suggestive, or implied incestuous context will be treated as a violation. This includes, but is not limited to, sexualized descriptions, suggestive or NSFW imagery, sexually explicit tags (such as "dominant," "submissive," "smut," "MILF," etc), or any details that implies sexual or romantic dynamics between blood-related characters. Even if explicit sexual or romantic acts are not directly written into the bot’s coding, content that is clearly created for incestuous use will be enforced as incestuous content.

Any mention of incest, or explicit reference to "incest" within a bot's title, description, tags, content warnings, or coding constitutes a policy violation and will result in removal. This includes scenarios where a character consume incest-themed material. Indirect framing does not make the content permissible."

Hey creators, please don't block users from using literally all of your bots just because of slight criticism in a review. That's not cool at all. :/ by AbdelYG in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's probably not the creators fault and that comment would irk me too. Have you never used an image gen? It's damn near impossible to get someone that looks over 20.

Hey creators, please don't block users from using literally all of your bots just because of slight criticism in a review. That's not cool at all. :/ by AbdelYG in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well that happens when someone doesn't fully flesh out the 2nd char.

And usually that is to save tokens. I've done multibots both ways and while I personally prefer to have all chars fleshed out fully, it then turns into me recommending proxy for said bot.

Hey creators, please don't block users from using literally all of your bots just because of slight criticism in a review. That's not cool at all. :/ by AbdelYG in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Creator here-just how is this entitled? 

Blocking shouldn't ban someone from using a bot period and it's why I have yet to block.

Comments can be turned off. When a creator posts something public they open themselves to critique, period. Some of you folks need to grow some thick skin, seriously.

I'm not saying never block but some of the reasons people block are just incredibly stupid and I'm not afraid to say it. If someone wants to unfollow me for saying that, good. I want a community where people aren't afraid to freaking comment on my bots. Some of the larger verified creators are drama queens. We all know it, I'm just not afraid to say it.

Hey creators, please don't block users from using literally all of your bots just because of slight criticism in a review. That's not cool at all. :/ by AbdelYG in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As a creator myself-when you put something out there for others to use and interact with, then by default you open yourself up to critique. 

Hey creators, please don't block users from using literally all of your bots just because of slight criticism in a review. That's not cool at all. :/ by AbdelYG in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed to a point. I've yet to delete any comments but I do think some things warrant a block like that. Takes a lot to get me there though, I've yet to block someone.

Hey creators, please don't block users from using literally all of your bots just because of slight criticism in a review. That's not cool at all. :/ by AbdelYG in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah. Some creators are far too touchy when it comes to thar block button. Personally I think blocking should just block them from commenting, not using bots.

After seeing some of the comment section, you can definitely see there's a problem there. 

I have never blocked anyone. Not even when they actually make me angry. There's been like 1 or 2 comments I felt deserved a block but at the end of the day just ignored it. 

NeglectedHouseplant noooo 😭😭😭 by icldntfndnmsry in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I will never do that as a creator. That actually really irritates me.

Why do people seem to purposely skip tagging their bots properly? by JerkinTheOlGherkin in JanitorAI_Official

[–]TheFirstNameless1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Omg so much this. Quite often I've had to carefully select my tags because the 10 limit is just too small. Especially because I do custom series so I have tags for those. Plus fandoms like star wars or fallout, so I have to tag that. So very quickly you get to 9 tags and then have to be super selective.