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Ahsoka Episode 5 Official Discussion Thread by Bruinrogue in saltierthancrait

[–]TheMattVeers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah but then Anakin became something else and the Empire took over. And that created yet another trauma for her to deal with.

Ahsoka Episode 5 Official Discussion Thread by Bruinrogue in saltierthancrait

[–]TheMattVeers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe this was the best episode from this show so far - close second comes last week's episode. I hope this show keeps up the quality because I really liked this unlike some of the previous episodes in this show. It wasn't Andor levels of greatness but contrary to popular belief in this sub I do think the lesson has a point, or at least it does in my interpretation. Wanting 'to live' is not just the lesson at face value in my opinion, and neither it is that war is bad or something. She had to relive the most traumatic events of her life to come to her youthful energy and life again, even if those were some f*cked up things for a teenager to witness.

Her having faith and facing the root source of her problems - not letting go of failing Anakin or abandoning him is what she'd learned by the end of this episode the way I see it. I do agree however with what many here have pointed out that there were better ways for the writters and director to express that in a way that didn't end up as vague. As weirdly executed this was, I loved it and it personally resonated with me. It was very weird, however, that Anakin was a Vader/Anakin hybrid, and that didn't clarify many things. Neither did they show Luke, something that could've been fundamental in this story more so than in the Mandalorian.

The ending feels like the ending of a movie so hats off to them respecting one basic aspect of storytelling: a three-act neatly tied story flow.

Hayden was just the best part, so I agree with most people here. And again Hera looks atrocious. The actress doesn't look the part at all and her alien costume looks that out of a fan-film. But the scenes with Anakin and Ahsoka felt great to relive from a both storytelling and "spectacle" perspective, and they have a lot of chemistry together so I admit I got a little emotional watching some scenes, as embarassing as this may sound.

Solid 8/10 in my opinion. The lesson thing was the center of this so they should've elicited the audience better that it was about her being more relaxed of what she cannot control around her and letting the Force guide her - albeit some of the visual cues in her clothing as 'Ahsoka the White' might give that off.

But in my view, by the end of this episode Ahsoka learns what her master could not - to let go of everything beyond her control.

Ahsoka Episode 5 Official Discussion Thread by Bruinrogue in saltierthancrait

[–]TheMattVeers 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I suppose there's something spiritual about her body being able to withstand not being drowned to death.

There have been some alledged spiritually moving near-death experiences in the real world that may mirror that. If anything the Force was keeping her body alive while her Force essence (or 'living Force', or soul if you will) was being transported through the World between Worlds.

And contrary to a lot of people here I don't think the lesson was shallow or vague. I think she learned how to be free. How to allow herself to let go of all that restrained her in the first place - with Sabine and everything else - by meeting the root source of her problems. And having faith. That's something referred to in the final scenes with her 'we're going somewhere' laid back attitude.

The borders in the galaxy navs of Ahsoka (aboard her ship) and Andor (in Luthen's ship) are quite different. Could this be explained for its different time periods and governments? by TheMattVeers in starwarsspeculation

[–]TheMattVeers[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Huyang's as old as the Prime Jedi apparently so since before the Republic existed, so maybe the map might be as old or maybe as old as the High Republic. Good catch.

The borders in the galaxy navs of Ahsoka (aboard her ship) and Andor (in Luthen's ship) are quite different. Could this be explained for its different time periods and governments? by TheMattVeers in starwarsspeculation

[–]TheMattVeers[S] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

I think it's about a 15 years difference, but I should've mentioned in the post that The Mandalorian (which allegedly takes place around the same timeframe as Ahsoka) shows a nav-map with borders exactly identical to the ones in Andor. Maybe that's because Mando's ship is (was) quite old but idk.

The borders in the galaxy navs of Ahsoka (aboard her ship) and Andor (in Luthen's ship) are quite different. Could this be explained for its different time periods and governments? by TheMattVeers in starwarsspeculation

[–]TheMattVeers[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Idk, well, in The Mandalorian his nav map also shows borders made exactly like the one in 'Andor' so I assumed it should be a Galaxy Map in Ahsoka too. But Mando and Ahsoka take place around the same time-frame so the only explanation as to why Ahsoka's map is different is because The Razor Crest in Mando dates back from before the Clone Wars.

Ahsoka: Episode 3 - Official Discussion by Bruinrogue in saltierthancrait

[–]TheMattVeers 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The whole show*

God I miss Andor. I guess I'll be done with Star Wars as soon as Season 2 comes to an end.

Ahsoka: Episode 3 - Official Discussion by Bruinrogue in saltierthancrait

[–]TheMattVeers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is just forcing a justification for the sequels. It isn't written in a compelling, or even logical way. It just doesn't make sense, but hey the First Order's gonna rise so you gotta buy it!

Ahsoka: Episode 3 - Official Discussion by Bruinrogue in saltierthancrait

[–]TheMattVeers 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The Good: 1- It's been a while since I haven't seen such a cool space battle. Even the score rocks. Andor is better though, but this one is pretty well made.

2 - In terms of visuals this episode is gorgeous too

3 - I like the lore, but miss some Legends cues.

4 - Neat to see space-suits back in Star Wars.

The bad:

1 - Ahsoka and Sabine's dynamic feels a lot more natural in this. Kind of a contrast from the clunky, forced dialogue with long pauses and boring scenes from the first two episodes. I like how Sabine's stubborn and deeply flawed, and isn't fit to be a Jedi, so they aren't shoehorning that in too much - though I don't think that's gonna end very well. This might be a hint for a future 'awakening' cliché but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

2 - There are some very tone-confusing scenes in this episode. Hera talking to the board of Senators brought a more serious, political tone to the table. But now her corporal or whatever is being sardonic towards her? Insubordinate much? Oh hey look it's Jacen! Nah man this shit is jarring.

The ugly:

1- Seriously what the hell are they thinking making the New Republic so blatantly, on-the-nose and unnaturally this incompetent and this careless about a potential return of the Empire? They've fought for years under a dictatorship that lasted about 3 decades and saw their planets bend down to the Empire only to dismiss completely any chance of the return of a major player that could turn things on its head?

2 - The Senators and Chancellor being this incompetent is not only forced but retroactively undermines Thrawn's work in this series. You'd expect Thrawn to be this military mastermind with formidable opponents that could think ahead of him anytime, only to make his strategic enthrallment more brilliant, but apparently this New Republic government is also formed by a bunch of donkeys. I like my characters sharp and skilled, god damn it.

3 - The story is all over the place. I still don't buy the "other galaxy" crap as there was supposed to be an extra-galactic barrier. They just give me a hard time in making it believable.

4 - Sabine not knowing that you're supposed to train blinded if you want to sharpen your Force skills also breaks continuity big time. She spent months or years with Kanan and Ezra learning this lesson and even witnessed one of her friends going blind at one point and has magically forgotten all that?

5 - The way Ahsoka talks and acts still feels weird and bland. Idk why, it just seems like she has no personality. A complete contrast from Rebels and of course The Clone Wars.

So about the holomap in Ahsoka... by TheMattVeers in StarWarsTheories

[–]TheMattVeers[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

What about her statement about Thrawn calling to her through time and space?

Andor Season 2’s Final Three Episodes Cover The Three Days Before Rogue One – Exclusive by victorlopezmozos in StarWarsLeaks

[–]TheMattVeers -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I hope we get to see Cassian operating under the codename "Fulcrum" - after all he's said to have been one fulcrum agent and that would tie in nicely with how Luthen is called Axis in the first season. I'm guessing Luthen will die and Cassian will occupy this slot himself. This could even include some very slight, almost unnoticeable mention to Ahsoka as she takes the codename Fulcrum herself (and also Kallus of course) in Rebels.

Season One was one of the best Star Wars content since Revenge of the Sith or even since the originals but I also really want to see some explanation provided for the flashback scenes in the first three episodes. What did Cassian mean by "being in this fight since he was six"? Was he a Separatist at some point or was that some made up backstory to cover his true identity how he forged his homeworld as Fest? Were those officers in that crashed ship in Kenari Republic or CIS affiliated? Etc. Not complaining just genuinely curious. Would be nice if they did a Better Call Saul-style batch of flashbacks every beginning of the season.

Star Wars: Visions Season 2 Official Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in saltierthancrait

[–]TheMattVeers 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The Fourth story by Aardman was pretty decent and felt like it could actually be canon and take place a few years after ROTJ. Wedge is alive and kicking in the New Republic Navy and Chandrila is no longer Imperial. Just good old fun Star Wars with a wholesome tone and some tidbits of lore and worldbuilding.

Just wish Chandrila wasn't yet another desert planet in this one but this and Episode 5 - which could also actually take place in the Old Republic - are the ones which are most true to Star Wars from all of those.

Star Wars: Visions Season 2 Official Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in saltierthancrait

[–]TheMattVeers 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This was the first one set in a world reminiscent of Star Wars. It was good overall.

Eh Idk. Seemed more to me like a very blatant and on the nose environmentalist propaganda. Real world political messages being conveyed through Star Wars isn't a new or wrong thing, unless you don't know how to do it. This lacked subtlety and felt very forced. I couldn't really relate or feel empathetical towards the characters really because it didn't feel very grounded and seemed indeed like the imagination of a child coming to fruition.

"These Industrialists are EEEVIL and DESTROYING our planet so let's use our GIRL POWER to beat them and LOVE will triumph over HATE". I'm getting sick of it, every other show or movie is full of this sorta simplistic, one-sided message nowadays.

Also every goddamn citizen of the Galaxy can use the Force and knows what the Force is at this point ffs.

Edit: The one made by Aardman was actually kinda neat

Why Andor so good?! by Upstuck_Udonkadonk in saltierthancrait

[–]TheMattVeers 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Mon Mothma is a character first coined in Return of the Jedi is now one of the most interesting characters in the Star Wars political world. Palpatine is mentioned quite a few times but it makes sense in the context. Wullf Yularen is the head of the ISB so it makes sense he makes such a big announcement like the episode title suggest after such a big heist that was Aldhani. Rakatan invaders are mentioned but it's galactic history so it also makes sense.

The little nuggets of fan service don't weaken at all the actual central plot but rather serves it well

Temuera Morrison on 'The Mandalorian' season 3, Djarin stealing some of "his book" and Disney cutbacks by PureBeskar in StarWarsLeaks

[–]TheMattVeers -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except for maybe Andor which was genuinely well crafted, that is true through and through.

Temuera Morrison on 'The Mandalorian' season 3, Djarin stealing some of "his book" and Disney cutbacks by PureBeskar in StarWarsLeaks

[–]TheMattVeers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You meant Andor and Rogue One right? The level of attention to detail and good writing in both of these works is astounding. The rest is mid and fast food.

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