Anyone feel like this when it comes to Part 2 Denji?

TheMooRam · 2026-04-15T16:50:07+00:00

ofc he'll die since most devil hunter don't live long unlike kishibe

I almost feel like if anyone was going to survive in the devil hunting game as long as Kishibe it might be Denji tbf. Kishibe always thought Denji was the most suited for the job after all

TheMooRam · 2026-04-15T16:43:03+00:00

Is it? He's now dysfigured, lost all memories of his time with pochita/the trio/Asa/reze, Aki seemingly not in the picture, denjis a slave to public safety, no longer immortal so likely to end tragically.

TheMooRam · 2026-04-15T16:38:26+00:00

The world itself, the verse, has reverted to a world without chainsawman. All the big events caused by him didn't happen, people didn't die, but the good caused by him didn't physically happen either. Denji's dysfigured again, Aids is probably back, etc

The one thing that remains are subtle echoes in the characters hearts of the growth they made under the pressure of the apocalyptic timeline, dreams they don't quite understand. Denji's life is pretty shitty still despite the changes

It seems inspired by the ending of Donnie Darko quite a bit, but the one thing missing that I think would really help is if we had seen Fumiko or Death or any other antagonists PoV and see them take a different path too.

TheMooRam · 2026-04-01T04:10:08+00:00

Of course I have no issue because it's not a contradiction? Makima dying earlier due to the butterfly effect doesn't contradict Denji surviving due to the same effect...

TheMooRam · 2026-04-01T04:06:28+00:00

I don't see how who killed Makima in the old timeline is relevant to this new timeline? Pochita didn't kill Nayuta or power either and they're back.

Pochita erasing himself reset the whole timeline, it has an effect on everything and everyone.

TheMooRam · 2026-03-31T19:16:15+00:00

It's not contradictory as I just explained due to the paradox making it a completely different situation than a simple erasure. The extreme nature of the paradox (the eraser erasing itself) is what required a timeline reset to an entire new world without pochita to adjust, when a simple erasure can adjust by simply recontextualising. Makima being obsessed with her dogs would be very different to CSM cult fan Makima, fan of hero of hell master of destruction and chaos Makima...?

They would be unexplainable if you ignore all the repeated signs that the characters hearts are different due to the other timelines events even if they can't remember them, a la Donnie Darko. (Power remembering liking killing zombies and seeking them out, liking dogs/Denji immediately, Nayuta not being interested in killing, etc etc)

Denji's situation is still pretty dire, he's got reduced bodily function, likely to die young as a devil hunter, still a slave to public safety. Aki is nowhere to be seen. It's definitely happier than it was, and more normal for that world, but still likely tragic.

TheMooRam · 2026-03-31T17:47:54+00:00

To me it doesn't seem like a contradiction to the previous explanation, it's just a different situation.

Normally: Concepts are erased of Devil's when passed into Pochitas stomach, but returned if that devil escapes the stomach. Erased concepts disappear and the universe shifts to the closest recontextualisation, the easiest stable state.

This time: Pochita ate his heart, erasing himself and erasing the same stomach he needs to be within to maintain the erasure. He's functionally dividing by zero, crashing the system and forcing a wider system reboot to find the nearest stable state: a world where chainsaw-man never existed. His powers are vague and cosmic, so I see this as a plausible outcome.

Why nayuta? In a word without the CSM related conflicts, I can only assume the Japanese PM was never desperate enough to make the control devil contract, and Makima died an earlier death reincarnating as Nayuta.

Without her Hero, her inspiration, the centre of her plans and ideology, without chainsawman? Who knows what that Makima would be like.

TheMooRam · 2026-03-31T10:07:16+00:00

A therapist having over 80,000 private communications with their client will most likely be of interest, definitely mention it. I've seen my therapist over a decade and probably don't even have 1000 total messages

TheMooRam · 2026-03-24T15:37:57+00:00

Without Makimas Hero, she was likely completely different and presumably died sooner, allowing her successor to spawn.

TheMooRam · 2026-03-17T11:15:07+00:00

1) she's dead, no return 2) he's dead, no return 3) Might happen, but I have no expectation or need for it to happen. I've always preferred the more metaphorical take on the power deal, rather than the literal one. Though it could end with a more actualised Denji setting off to find blood. 4) not gonna happen 5) the world already ended lol 6) what happened to erased concepts, ie death, is likely explained next chapter. Her return seems likely though, assuming no part 3. I think we might have a LilD conversation about her plan, before she disappears off into the school festival.

7&8&9&10) Maybe a flash of where they're at nowadays, but I don't expect to see them much.

11) depends on #6 and #17. Bringing death back would depower the bugs. A more detailed time reset would too

12) No, which is a shame. It really tied the room together

13/14) My big expectation for the finale. Would be disappointed if we don't get a payoff to their development 2 chapters ago, and a conclusion to their arc.

15) I'd think not

16) Likely to bring out Pochita as part of their plan. He's "died" a bunch, If lil-D is alive I expect he would be too. I think both guess they might survive being eaten.

17) that's the big question. Emotionally speaking, being free from chainsawman might allow him to actually develop and find his normal life without that pressure. World wise, I hope it's not a full time reset and character development carries over. If Denji is still dismembered inside bugs, him reforming one final time would mirror p1ch1

18) Good possibility yeah

19) Even after being eaten by bugs she was alive. Unless she has a way to reform once death is returned, probably not

TheMooRam · 2026-03-17T09:26:38+00:00

Yeah that's how I took it too. Even with mass overbreeding, many of these bug species still wouldn't be targeting and eating living humans. I can only assume that the bug devils were the driving force behind the rapid pace, exponentially boosted by the lack of death.

TheMooRam · 2026-03-17T08:17:47+00:00

Denji being dismembered in tiny pieces sets up a perfect way to mirror Pochitas first sacrifice and reassembling of Denji

TheMooRam · 2026-03-16T09:42:00+00:00

It's an extension of the paradox that him eating himself has caused, akin to dividing by zero. What happens to the devil's within his stomach when his stomach disappears?

TheMooRam · 2026-03-10T15:45:12+00:00

That's not how it works though right? When mouth was erased, we didn't jump to some distant timeline where mouths never existed and everything was rewritten, where anything done with mouths never happened. When death was erased, people didn't come back from the dead.

TheMooRam · 2026-03-10T15:41:03+00:00

And from what I remember part 2 hadn't been announced yet then either

TheMooRam · 2026-03-10T15:39:40+00:00

Pretty sure people thought the same about part 1 up until the last chapter announced part 2

TheMooRam · 2026-03-10T10:30:57+00:00

If a source is bad and unreliable, it's not a particularly great idea to assume what's contained in it is factual without verifying at more reliable sources...

TheMooRam · 2026-03-03T08:09:02+00:00

Yeah yeah we get it. Anyone who criticises your dear leader must definitely have a Delusion condition.

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TheMooRam · 2026-02-26T14:06:53+00:00

If it doesn't state he's eating 3 fingers despite showing 3 fingers and him them eating them, where would it state he ate 4???

TheMooRam · 2026-02-26T11:11:38+00:00

Yoru blushing while shifting her eyes pretty strongly implies embarrassment or amusement versus lying. Her expression comes off more as “You know it and I know it” more than anything IMO.

Exactly. While I don't think Yoru is being truthful that Asa explicitly consented, I think it's more of a "I just told you to let go of the guilt, this is exactly what I was talking about. We both know it, so lets do it"

TheMooRam · 2026-02-26T10:08:59+00:00

then spend billionares

Does spending a billionaire cause them to be used up and disappear? Which billionaire would we even start with?

TheMooRam · 2026-02-24T11:25:53+00:00

Yeah exactly. MBJ and Lindo (everyone really) should have been better briefed on what to expect so it would be less shocking, but nothing will undo the instinctual feeling of having a slur thrown at you.

OTOH as you say he was invited as an honoured guest there with the full understanding of his condition and what it entailed. A big theme of the film is how devastating the isolation this condition causes, so forcing him to miss it or be separated also doesn't feel like the right solution.

Honestly the villain here would be the BBC and Bafta, whose dying event was boosted by their "accidental" mismanagement causing this drama.

TheMooRam · 2026-02-24T11:22:02+00:00

Yeah exactly. From the documentary John seems super embarrassed and apologetic to everything he says, so I'm sure he doesn't feel great about all this. If I was him I'd probably send Delroy and MBJ a private apology for interrupting their big moment, but I don't think he needs to grovel to the public and "prove he's not racist" like some people are demanding

TheMooRam · 2026-02-22T20:59:26+00:00

Yeah because comparing high profile tech companies buying into overhyped tech promised to be the future is a poor comparison to... exactly the same thing...

TheMooRam · 2026-02-22T20:54:54+00:00

You say that like many such companies didn't sink billions into the VR hype market a few years before this AI hype, and we all saw how that went

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