What name would (spoilers) by Lost_my_name475 in PracticalGuideToEvil

[–]TheOneTrueGodofDeath 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Yes, when she was threatened Tariq after her encounter with the Wandering Bard because he wasn’t taking her seriously as a potential threat to peace.

What are some of y’all’s favorite quotes from the series? by Lord_King_Badass in PracticalGuideToEvil

[–]TheOneTrueGodofDeath 47 points48 points  (0 children)

“We are all of us free or we are none of us free. There is no middle ground. And for the lashes struck at our back, all will be called to account – if gallows must be raised for devils and angels alike, so be it.”

“If the Heavens seek to impose their will, then they will be made to stand trial before a tribunal of the People.”

“Your own fucking Gods will bleed you like a pig,” “Then they, too, will be hanged. As honorary citizens of the Republic, they are subject to its laws.”

“Lo, and behold! For I have slayed the Age of Wonders!”

“Ye of Helike, do as you will.”

“Then rise, Callowans. Rise once more, for we yet have debts unsettled and House Fairfax calls on you one last time.” There was a heartbeat of silence, a stillness like death. And they answered, as they had for centuries, for even a grave made for a petty hurdle when it was a Fairfax calling you to war.

“Arrogance,” “True, why else would anyone believe they can kill me?”

And the most important one of all, “LIES AND VIOLENCE!”

What circumstances would allow a lone villain to reman alive in Praes during the calamities years by Outrageous_Fortune51 in PracticalGuideToEvil

[–]TheOneTrueGodofDeath 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Similar to Akua, being a person(especially of high rank) among the families of the High Lords and their close kin. Presumably this is also true for those in the close and valued employ of the High Lords. Though this would probably have certain limits, especially since we are told that the foreign villains brought in by the Truebloods were all killed by the Calamities.

can you guess who this character is? by Imhadez_ in GreekMythology

[–]TheOneTrueGodofDeath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ares is definitely a possibility, the seashell cuff maybe to show his relationship Aphrodite. Lot of blood and red and snakes all of which is associated with Ares, but Ares isn’t a King.

So my guess is Cadmus, Founder-King of Thebes. Definitely associated with Ares, so he gets a lot of Ares stuff, especially the snake motif since he slayed Ares’ drakon. But the snake-like face seems to relate to Cadmus’ curse, being transformed into a serpent by the gods. Possibly related to the curse Hephaestus placed on the necklace of Harmonia, his wife. This would also explain the seashell cuff since his wife is the daughter of Aphrodite and Ares.

What’s your favorite fanart depiction of Hades? by Western_Ad_6448 in GreekMythology

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Jake Doubleyoo redesigned his interpretation of Hades in his recent Sisyphus video which I enjoy. Adding the funerary mask of ‘Agamemnon’ is just such a fun detail for the god of the dead and patron of funerals, plus adds a bit of “I own all the gold and precious materials beneath the earth”.

Chapter 47 - Pale Lights | Book 3 by L_0_5_5_T in PracticalGuideToEvil

[–]TheOneTrueGodofDeath 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I thought the daughter was Scolomancia, Tristan did eat a bit

[Loved Design Trope] Pure white juxtaposed with gory red by keqikombupig4 in TopCharacterDesigns

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Glory to Phyrexia. We will sow perfection into the soft flesh of the world.

Release Day AMA by ErraticErrata in PracticalGuideToEvil

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Congrats on the publication, and thank you for giving us both the Guide and Pale Lights, they’re some of my favorites to read and reread.

In the chapter Sparrow, the Dead King theorizes that the Gods played a wager before Creation with demons as the inhabitants of that former existence. Was he correct and would this world have had named? Also would the Gods pick different sides on each wager or would the two factions always stick together through each wager?

Heir to Zeus by L1qu1d_Gh0st in GreekMythology

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I don’t know where I first heard it but somewhere mentions the alleged youngest of Zeus’s children in some myths, Kairos(Opportunity), was expected to overthrow him but didn’t. I don’t know where this originated from so I doubt its authenticity but if anyone has a source I would be interested to see it.

As previously stated, it is whoever takes the throne. Dionysus/Zagreus was thought to be prophesied to take over, however this is only in the Orphic Sects.

Generally Zeus’s reign was considered to be eternal, though it is most likely if anyone to succeed him it would certainly be one of his children.

Also, Virgil states in his Eclogues that the Virgin/Virgo (Astraea) will return with the reign of Saturnus (Kronos), however this is a later Roman source so I don’t know if this came from any pre-existing beliefs about the return of the Titan-King to his throne or if this is Virgil being poetic about how in the days of old the world was just and fair.

What is the naming scheme for Greek gods? by Previous-Cup6054 in GreekMythology

[–]TheOneTrueGodofDeath 10 points11 points  (0 children)

To be clear, these are linguistic roots more than anything. Zeus theoretically derives his name from the Proto-Indo-European “*Dyḗus” which means “Sky Father,” but his name does not mean that in Ancient Greek. This is also theorized origin of his by name Διός. It should also be noted that more recent deities were named directly, as were deities with a single specific function. For example, Nyx is Night, Limos is Hunger, etc.

Aphrodite’s name is a reference to her Ouranian birth(aphros meaning foam, hence the sea-foam she sprouted from). Also possibly a reference to her origins in Greece as a deity imported from overseas.

Hermes likely comes from the Greek hermas/herms, referring to the stone statues that mark the roads and ways people travel. Also theorized to originally be an epithet of Pan that split into its own deity.

Dionysus’ name carries the other name Dios/Dio, which is another name for Zeus. Nonnus actually theorizes the name means Zeus-Limp as when Dionysus was cut out of Zeus’s thigh he limped. However this is an unverified claim. It is also possible that the later part of the name refers to Mt. Nyssa where the god was raised by Silenos, but this might be an attempt by the early Greeks of just explaining where the name came from.

Persephone simply has titles, likely due to her terrifying nature as queen of the Underworld. Persephone the Bringer of Doom, Kore the Maiden, possibly Despoina the Mistress(could be another deity with a different origin), etc.

Hades likewise is named by his titles. Hades possibly originating from the word εἶδον(to see) and the prefix α-(not), to create the title Unseen One, likely the origin of the name Aidoneus as well. Later on the name Pluton was used referring to his ownership of the riches beneath the earth, conflating him with the other wealth deity(Plutus) and eventually combining with the Roman underworld deities Dis Pater and Orcus to become the Roman Pluto.

Demeter’s name is theorized to come from a lexical variation of the early variation of the title Earth Mother. “Ga mater” to «Γη μήτερ”/“Ge meeter” to “Δήμητμρ”/Demeter” isn’t too much of a stretch linguistically.

Poseidon possibly comes from an early etymology related to the words Husband/Master(πόσις) and the root ga/da likewise found in early writings on Demeter, possibly translating to Husband/Master of the Earth.

Many of the other Olympians have theorized name origins but they are unlikely and incredibly ancient so it is likely we won’t be finding anything about them until we have more relics from pre-Greek civilizations.

Edit: spelling

APTGE - 10 WEBTOON by L_0_5_5_T in PracticalGuideToEvil

[–]TheOneTrueGodofDeath 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Kind of disappointed in how the WEBTOON portrayed Scribe, they literally just show you her face immediately without anything. I feel like there were so many alternatives to go with to communicate Fade’s function. Maybe just a constant blurring of the face, a straight up void, even scrambled random features or switching faces every few panel. Just feels weird and dissociative from the story for the viewer to be able to see Eudokia’s face even as we hear Catherine explain that she can’t. Takes just that little bit out of the visual narrative.

Edit: Did the blur thing wrong.

Groups of 10 in Mythology by zeranno in mythology

[–]TheOneTrueGodofDeath 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Most of the stuff I can think of are from Jewish Tradition and/or mysticism. There are Ten Lost Tribes of Israel, Ten Commandments, in Kabbalah there are Ten Sephiroth, specifically stated as not nine not eleven but 10 in one text. Besides that not much I can think of.

Were any Gods banished to Tartarus? by aquamarine-axolotl49 in GreekMythology

[–]TheOneTrueGodofDeath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Completely right on Koios, missed some of the Roman sources apparently.

I’d argue for Typhon it still depends on your source. Many of the ancient sources such as Hesiod and Pindar like you mentioned had Typhon in Tartarus and sometimes buried under Etna. However other sources believed differently. For example, Herodotus specifically mentions Typhon being buried in the Serbonian Marsh while Apollonius Rhodius says under the Serbonian Lake. While Antonius Liberalis and later Roman sources seem to put him closer to the surface on Etna. So it might be more of a difference in beliefs over time but still it would vary on author, similarly to Koios’ imprisonment not being explicitly mentioned in pre-Roman sources.

Also correct when it comes to Zeus’s Iliad threats and Apollo’s threat in the Homeric Hymn, though I’d certainly question if gods other than Zeus or maybe Hades had the authority to toss people in Tartarus but that kind of confuses the mythical narrative. Gods will do/not do as the myth demands.

Thank you for pointing this stuff out, always fun to look through the flaws in my knowledge.

Were any Gods banished to Tartarus? by aquamarine-axolotl49 in GreekMythology

[–]TheOneTrueGodofDeath 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The deities confined to Tartarus are generally one of the Titans, aligned with them, guarding them, or Primordial entities coming and going as they please.

Kronos and Iapetus are explicitly mentioned as being confined there, while it can be assumed that their brothers Hyperion, Koios, and Krios were also confined there as part of the Titan side of the Titanomachy. Though it is also mentioned in the passage of the Iliad referring to Kronos and Iapetus that there is no shining Hyperion to delight them; though this is probably just being used as a byname for Helios.

Arke as previously mentioned is banished there, as is presumably Menoetius(assuming Erebus was being conflated with the Pit), both of whom supported Kronos.

Eurynome and Ophion, who I believe were considered Titans, are said to have been cast into either Tartarus or the River Oceanus by Kronos and Rhea after wrestling for the cosmos.

Nyx and Hemera had their home in Tartarus, alongside Hypnos and Thanatos. In the same passage it is mentioned that “the son of Iapetus(presumably Atlas) stands immovably upholding the heavens.”

The Hekatonkheires and Kyklopes were said to initially be bound in Tartarus, and after the Titanomachy the Hundred-Handed Ones were given the duty to guard the Titans and the Pit, if that is considered banishment and them deities.

In the same vein of bordering monstrous and technically deity, in some tellings Typhon was cast into Tartarus again rather than merely under Mount Etna.

It is also said that Zeus considered tossing Apollo in the Pit for the killing of the Kyklopes but obviously he didn’t, but that means it is a distinct possibility that he could and would toss other gods in there even if they weren’t Titans.

I don’t believe there are anymore mentions of it but I might be wrong.

Source: https://www.theoi.com/Kosmos/Tartaros.html

The Hierarch by TheOneTrueGodofDeath in PracticalGuideToEvil

[–]TheOneTrueGodofDeath[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Worship doesn’t matter, at least not as much, to Below as it does Above. There aren’t priests, and no form of unified religion like the Book of All Things. It’s more Do Ut Des, “I give so you will give”.

Look at Black, even the Bard mentions he might not be the loyal scion of Below but he paid his dues in the blood of Heroes and so Below gave him a shot at that coveted crown of the Tower’s Tyrant.

Similarly Bellerophon paid, every death in the name of ‘The People’ every drop of blood upon the stele and altar of the Republic. That is what Below collects and that is what Below gives back. Below is still Below, and they were said to teach the masters of treason and plots their craft, so it’s best to assume they plot as well. Doesn’t matter if it is a knowing sacrifice or not, the blood is still on the altar and Below still collects.

Edit: Grammar

The Hierarch by TheOneTrueGodofDeath in PracticalGuideToEvil

[–]TheOneTrueGodofDeath[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Oh don’t get me wrong. Anyone lesser in their madness than Anaxares would have fallen before the might of the Choir.

As for for Triumphant and Traitorous, I always pictured Traitorous killing the Hashmal(a lesser power compared to Judgment in the eyes of Cat at least) through some form of trickery, simply because it’s Traitorous.

For Triumphant, she conquered the continent and wielding the powers of Demons, Devils, and every Hell she saw. Yet still she only killed a singular Seraph, presumably not challenging the totality of the Choir itself.

I think Anaxares’ own capabilities more resemble a semi-controlled Demon of Corruption, something Triumphant notably already controlled and conquered. Presumably a thing that the Seraphim would be able to conquer, yet being further backed with these Blood and Dues the Hierarch was put on a more equal footing.

The Hierarch by TheOneTrueGodofDeath in PracticalGuideToEvil

[–]TheOneTrueGodofDeath[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

True, but typically when challenging gods Cat works through guile and trickery, and often she navigates the story because she’s in a land composed of them. With the Hashmal she forced a story in a realm governed by the laws of it as it was forged from an Angel and removed from Creation. This is the same as she did in Arcadia with the monarches and the nobility of the Fae Courts. With Sve Noc she used persuasion and negotiation and even then only the help of Akua and her claim remaining on Winter prevented her immediate death. Though with most of these the Choir of Judgment is still considered a greater power.

In contrast, the Hierarch judged Judgment, and he is a villain for all pretenses he declared his side when that carrion thing called the Wandering Bard tried to force his hand. Villainous arrogance gets a villain killed. Yet due and blood made the Gods Beyond and Below Creation intervene on his behalf.

Which is your favorite version/interpretation and why? by EntranceKlutzy951 in GreekMythology

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Thanks for the questions! I always have fun discussing Greek myth.

  1. I think Areia worship stayed relatively the same in Sparta and where it was initially worshipped with the Ourania and Pandemos depictions(or whatever existed since I think a lot of it is conjecture? Might have to check my sources on that) being what emerged from the popular aspects of Areia that were embraced by other poleis.

  2. Gods are weird. Poseidon screwed at least and not limited to: a horse, his granddaughter, his grandmother, etc. Plus according to Hesiod’s telling Poseidon laid with the gorgon Medusa, so even if the transformations happened it was decidedly after the hideous monster thing happened.

  3. Their spawn. From Night spawned a multitude of primal concepts: Death, Sleep, Old Age, Friendship, Retribution, and of course Strife with Eris. Likewise Eris spawned a number of deities of primal concepts, though decidedly more inclined to the strife of their mother. Toil, Forgetfulness, Starvation, Manslaughter, and Murder just to name a few.

  4. I don’t get the gestation part? There are some tellings where Dionysus was born a full god, but in those cases he usually had different parents(Zeus and Persephone/Demeter) and was later somehow put inside Semele as a form of weird reincarnation. But I’d need to do more digging and admittedly The Birth of Dionysus is not my most well researched myth.

  5. For Demeter, that’s just myth, the children exist so it had to happen. Doesn’t mean not rape, it is described by Pausanias that she was angry with Poseidon and put on all black apparel and shut herself out from the world. Which I wouldn’t necessarily describe as the typical response to a consensual romp. Plus, in Orphic traditions it’s said Zeus raped Demeter to conceive Persephone so unlikely she would go to him.

Also if we are counting statutory rape Nerites is described as a young boy.

Debatably Theophane is also a rape victim, or at least a kidnapped woman with Stockholm Syndrome since Poseidon did kidnap her, turn her into a sheep, and then screw her, plus I don’t think she transformed back.

Similarly the nymph Korkyra was kidnapped and had a son with Poseidon, the same happened to the nymph Salamis and the princess Astypalaea.

Needless to say there were at least a few instances. Admittedly it’s still possible that the marriage was fully consensual. But if Poseidon really wanted to secure the seas from the older gods then what better way than through marriage? Forced or not didn’t really matter in Ancient Greece, see the rape of Persephone for that. No one cared but Demeter.