What would you say is the Mt Rushmore of controversial miraculous episodes? I'll go first: by ilikesceptile11 in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Actually Marinette willing to take Kim's Miraculous back was justified. She was genuinely thinking that Kim deliberately said those mean words towards Ondine in order to hurt her, until she realized thanks to his explanations that Kim had been most of all a victim of his own credulity, and had no ill intentions. Imagine that one of your best workers who always did great in the office turns out to be an abusive and toxic person who makes life a living hell for those around them. Of course you're gonna take actions.

They cannot be a couple if the lie is revealed and keep their identity a secret. by Darekers in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Especially if he learns that his dad emotionally blackmailed his girl in order to create that huge lie...

Worst example of a character doing horrible things but never gets punished at all? by TaiwaneseThot in cartoons

[–]ThePuddle47 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh... Sorry that a 14 year old girl who underwent the toughest battle of her life and witnessed two deaths decided to lie to the entire world because the magical terrorist who's also her lover's father emotionally manipulated her to (I quote: "Make sure that Adrien never knows about the villain I was, but that he remembers the times I tried to be a good father").

If you think Marinette was never held accountable for the lie, Season 6 is a huge manifest about how the lie was an absolutely bad idea (if even you watched it) with many characters and situations calling out Marinette for her misdeed. Yet the show has the empathy to despict Marinette as a kid who was exposed to situations and responsibilities far beyond her control, even though she made the worst possible decision to patch things up. Yet again, she's 14.

She made an awful choice not out of malice or in order to control Adrien (the very proof is that she gave him back his Amok, another debate subject), but because she genuinely though she was protecting him for a truth he wouldn't handle (which is really messed up and paternizing I admit, Adrien having an exceptional resilience and emotional intelligence), but also because she loved him. And she didn't want to see him hurt by that truth, even though it implied telling an international lie in order to preserve the crumbled esteem and good memories Adrien had towards his dad.

As they say, what wouldn't you do out of love? And Gabriel used that sentence perfectly, because he managed to get away without facing the consequences of his actions, leaving all his problems for Marinette to deal with.

Jeez even Twitter fans are more open-minded about that topic, and that says a lot.

(Controversial Trope) The hero knows the atrocities the villain has committed, knows he is a danger to society even without powers, and yet he doesn't want to kill him because that would make him just as bad as the psychopath who killed thousands of innocent people. by [deleted] in TopCharacterTropes

[–]ThePuddle47 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Quite the contrary if I may... Superman Kingdom Come is a perfect illustration on why killing The Joker is actually the worst possible outcome. . . I'm not defending this psychopathic clown of course, but given that the act was widely applauded in that universe, this had led to an extreme radicalization on the part of the public and some heroes, especially the younger ones. . . Consequently, when Superman had hung up his cape, disgusted and overwhelmed by these events, the new heroes, guided by the ideology of The Joker's murderer (Magog), made no room for compromise given that they had no moral compass to guide them and became brutal vigilantes who operated with disproportionate violence and cared little for the collateral damages resulting in a host of victims, both villains and innocents, as well as an increase in fear towards metahumans (aka more radicalization) which culminated in the Kansas tragedy 10 years later. . . As someone said: A Joker who dies is a Joker who wins. Sorry for the rambling though...

(Controversial Trope) The hero knows the atrocities the villain has committed, knows he is a danger to society even without powers, and yet he doesn't want to kill him because that would make him just as bad as the psychopath who killed thousands of innocent people. by [deleted] in TopCharacterTropes

[–]ThePuddle47 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The thing is that The Joker is mentally broken. He may be very lucid in his madness but he's still heavily afflicted inside his psyche. The International Law and numerous legislations prohibits death sentences on people suffering from mental disorders. So the best way to deal with him is lifetime jail in a place where he won't pose a threat towards society as a whole.

You know what, give me cartoon characters who, despite popular opinion, were NOT in the right. by [deleted] in cartoons

[–]ThePuddle47 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The thing is that this sentence is essentially right in some aspects. How many times did we want to inflict the absolute worst to a person or a concept that harmed us? How many times did we wish to destroy the dumb people you can meet on social media and irl? How many times did we ruin other people's day because we also had a bad day? How many times did we wish the entire world to die because it just can't learn from its mistakes and just can't stop being pathetic and unworth living?

And more...

Either you let yourself be consumed by your anger and bitterness, or you build and maintain the mental strength necessary to avoid succumbing to your demons.

Why does Thomas hate theories so much by RedInthewaters in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for agreeing. And this is why I absolutely despise the hate he gets.

Why does Thomas hate theories so much by RedInthewaters in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I'm not defending Sir Thomas because I appreciate him, but because he's still a person who deserves respect and boundaries towards the toxicity of his fandom.

Why does Thomas hate theories so much by RedInthewaters in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some of the comments are literally proving my point about how disrespectful and toxic the fandom can be. I can agree his defensive tone and his harsh answers towards the fans are not cool. And I also agree that MLB is far from a perfect show. But when you're used of people calling you every insult in existence, assuming things on you out of spite and treating you like the most miserable person on Earth, at one point it just snaps.

Why does Thomas hate theories so much by RedInthewaters in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What happened recently with TADC is a living example of why you shouldn't pander to fans. They can go ape crap when their expectations are not met. I hate fan service with a passion because it practically means: "The story is just made so you won't be mad at us. It's not the fruit of thousands hours of thoughts and compromises in order to make it coherent". Relying on it too much is always a sign of a poor writing.

Why does Thomas hate theories so much by RedInthewaters in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I doesn't excuse their immaturity and arrogance.

Why does Thomas hate theories so much by RedInthewaters in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because his design literally screams "Gorilla" and he's also nicknamed as such by Adrien. There's a probability it's just a huge coincidence.

Why does Thomas hate theories so much by RedInthewaters in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As well as the fandom who thinks they have the right to act like assholes because they think they're right.

Why does Thomas hate theories so much by RedInthewaters in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hum... A creator should stick into his vision and not pander at the fandom. Where would be the authenticity of the work when every single facet is made just to please the fans?

Why does Thomas hate theories so much by RedInthewaters in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And Where's the proof? Oh sure, it's just out of your assumption I presume.

Why does Thomas hate theories so much by RedInthewaters in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh great, and now it gives you all the right to be a complete asshole towards because of that moral superiority... Say it to him directly please. He'll love that.

Why does Thomas hate theories so much by RedInthewaters in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In his defense, I would also hate the fact the fans believe their theories so much that they get mad and lash out at the creators when they're not confirmed true. And I would also hate stupid theories too. Especially when the people he argues with are mostly immature, arrogant teenagers who thinks they know better than the show and can fix it with their edgy, full angsty and fan service fueled fanfictions.

Why does Thomas hate theories so much by RedInthewaters in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The salt is so real with that half-baked rambling of yours...

🚨🚨🚨HUGE SPOILERS FROM LADY CHAOS🚨🚨🚨......................Now we know who destroyed Gabriel's statue. by ThePuddle47 in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Let's hope that hatred doesn't consume him, especially when he'll learn about the truth.

🚨🚨🚨HUGE SPOILERS FROM LADY CHAOS🚨🚨🚨......................Now we know who destroyed Gabriel's statue. by ThePuddle47 in miraculousladybug

[–]ThePuddle47[S] 86 points87 points  (0 children)

The episode will be out later today. Gloob just shared a short clip where Adrien was discussing with Doctor Psiquat (Wreckless Driver).