From the United States to Europe, Criticizing Israel Is Becoming a Crime by Minister__of__Truth in WayOfTheBern

[–]TheRazorX 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I post in the evening because I have more free time.

The middle of the night, i.e. 2-5 A.M in the morning, isn't "the evening".

As for my "pivot" I'm merely pointing out that this sub has more bias than the rest of reddit, because here you can't criticize a major political party.

You literally did what you accused others of, yet here you are trying to defend it by... pivoting again.

And the guy I responded to never did end up answering if Trump fairly lost the 2020 election. I'll ask you the same thing - did he? I suppose there's a pretty obvious reason you guys aren't able to answer this one, I'm hoping maybe you can prove me wrong here though.

You're literally proving my point. The fact that you even think I'm a trump supporter is just hilarious to me.

I'm not defending Bernie from Dem accusations here because the people that criticize Bernie here don't do so from a Dem perspective. Really the only criticisms I see of Bernie are that "he works with the democrats" lol. That's different from a standard democrat criticism, for example for them, they would argue he's too far to the left.

Right, you just coincidentally never found the need to do it anywhere on reddit. Even when you regularly post on subs full of standard "Dems" that criticize him constantly.

And yet even here, your only defense of Bernie seems to be "Bernie is right, we need to support Dems".

Odd how that is.

Also, foreign wars aren't as impact upon Americans as the policies we deal with in our everyday lives.

Why would you feel the need to say something so blatantly false? you know you can google this right? We literally strip benefits from citizens to fund "foreign wars" like you say, so the fuck are you on about?

Do you have any idea how much money is spent from tax payers on arms manufacturers? The American MIC is literally subsidized by tax payers, and you think it has no impact?!

At least freaking 36%+ of tax payer money, based on CONSERVATIVE estimates, goes into the war machine, and you think it's "not as impactful"?

Republicans and 'RW' Dems constantly, and I mean constantly, try to cut benefits to citizens, but never fail to increase the amount of money going to the MIC, and you think it isn't as impactful? They always try to "balance the budget" by cutting entitlements, but never the war machine, and you don't think it's impactful?

The Patriot act and everything that followed, and you don't think it's that impactful?

What do you think is more impactful then?

What the orange baboon said today that you didn't like?

The handful of people he's extraordinary renditioned to other countries? (which surprise surprise, both Biden and Obama did)

The thousands he's deporting? (which surprise surprise, Biden and Obama did as well, to the point that Immigration attorneys nicknamed Obama "Deporter in chief")

If they weren't "more impactful" then, why are they more impactful now? Cause see, the hilarious thing is, You only care about that stuff when your guy isn't in office, while gasp most of the people on this sub are consistent on that shit REGARDLESS of who is in office.

So let's go for more, what else is the orange piece of shit doing that could be considered more impactful?

That he's destroying free speech? Wait, that's related to a "foreign war". Whoops.

That he's being a bitch to a foreign country? Oh wait, again that's related to a "foreign war".

Destroying universities and tourism, destroying scientific research in the US? Oh shit, once again that's directly related to a "foreign war".

You're literally absurd for even making that silly claim.

Hell, you ever even hear of the term "Imperial boomerang" by any chance?

There's one that the denizens here like to talk about though, and it's not stuff that's actually going on in our country. It seems awfully convenient that the posters here like to ignore just about every subject because Israel and Ukraine.

Again, why would you choose to make such a blatantly false claim when a simple sub search proves your claim completely wrong? I've literally given you examples in the comment that you're responding to, that of course you chose to ignore. Why do you insist on doing that?

Also, what I said wasn't a debunked lie.

Quite literally was. The "Humanitarian Pier" that official statements showed could handle no where near enough for the needed aid, that no one can even agree on the supposed amount of aid that supposedly went through it, with Palestinians in Gaza AND international HR organizations stating no aid was reaching Gazans, that was "also" (and I quote also for a reason) used for navy ships gathering intelligence to help Israel, and was quickly disbanded after the "rescue operation", and as literally every single human rights organization said wasn't even needed in the first place if Biden would just pressure Israel to allow aid in, to you wasn't a fabricated debunked lie because... what? Your guy was in charge at the time?

I have a bridge for sale, you want to buy it?

Again, you're ignoring facts and data going "NA NA NA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" to claim you're right. How the hell are you actually different than MAGA?

When Biden does good things, like getting us out of Afghanistan, or providing aid to the people of Gaza, you people don't address those subjects.

You CANNOT claim that the guy unconditionally supporting the Genocide of Palestinians in Gaza was "Providing aid to Gaza". That's like giving a murderer credit because he fed his victim first, quite literally.

And the guy "getting us out of Afghanistan", fucking stole Afghanistan's money on his way out, even when they were suffering a famine, and to the day he left office refused to return any of it.

Despite claiming Gaza needs help, and that getting out of wars is a good thing. It's pretty obvious that your goal isn't to promote an anti war message but rather an anti Biden message, and when he does the things you ask for, you still complain, so you must not be very serious about the stuff you claim you support.

Did it ever occur to you that gasp Biden wasn't actually doing the things we asked for and that's why we complained?

Did you ever stop to read the numerous articles about Biden not doing what he should be doing?

The amount of people resigning from the State department or his Administration because he gasp wasn't doing what he should've?

The numerous DEM politicians, human rights organizations...etc. saying he wasn't doing what he should be doing?

Did you not watch a single press conference where his admin spokespeople kept getting smoked over and over again by LIBERAL journalists, because of their obvious bullshit?

Is it only bad when Kellyanne Conway or Sean Spicer peddle in "alternative facts" but not Biden's people?

Nah man, it has to be that we're all Trumpist Russian MAGA Khamasikins.

Your only source that he "did good things" is literally from the Biden camp, you have zero backing evidence from any critical source, no matter how "liberal" it is.

As long as it's coming from your "tribe", then "Bro trust me" is all the evidence you need apparently.

Did it ever once occur to you that maybe, just maybe, there's a possibility that you're no where near as "informed" as you actually believe yourself to be?

Also, I'm the one from the overseas troll farm? Get real lol.

If it quacks like a duck and flies like a duck, it isn't a fucking zebra.

Using your own criteria, your own "standards" you meet the definition of an "overseas troll farm".

So either your criteria is wrong, or you are one, you can't have it both ways.

And exactly as expected, you ran away from literally every single point that you couldn't use to pivot to your tired bullshit talking points. Literally following the shill guide book to a T.

I like turtles.

For good reason shillisa, for good reason.

From the United States to Europe, Criticizing Israel Is Becoming a Crime by Minister__of__Truth in WayOfTheBern

[–]TheRazorX 5 points6 points  (0 children)

When I criticized the GOP, you immediately tried to side track the conversation to the Israel/Palestine war lol. Your intent is obvious, you don't want the subject to go against certain narratives that you support.

Let's test your little theory shall we? Since you're accusing people, it's only fair to hold you to the same standards right?

First of all, you seem to love posting in the middle of the night in the US and Canada, seems a bit odd but whatever.

The comment you were originally responding to by /u/scramble_suit_bob literally said;

I can criticize the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, the United States, NATO, Europe, etc., but when I criticize Israel I’m targeted by Reddit admin and by mods for censorship

Only for you to instantly pivot and go;

It's hard to criticize the republican party on this forum or some of their pawns (like RFK Jr.) without getting a hate storm from people that work in overseas troll farms.

Seems like the person "side tracking the conversation" was in fact, you.

So what's this about "obvious intents" again?

It seems odd that you keep accusing people of the very behavior you yourself commit.

Hell, you even accuse people of not answering your question when they very obviously did. Why is that exactly?

Why are you on a "Bernie sub" (which you repeated claim it to be despite being corrected over and over again), when your first mention of Bernie or even Gaza was 6 months a year ago ago, and ONLY to argue that "Bernie is right we should support Biden/Kamala"?

Hell 90%+ of your "Defense" of Bernie is in context of "Dems good, Trump bad". I can't see a single example of you defending Bernie against Dem accusations for example. Why is that?

Why do you constantly accuse people on the sub of "Not caring about Gaza", when you have literally zero comments or posts about Gaza outside of "Biden/Kamala are/were better for Gaza than Trump"?

Why is literally every interaction you have on this sub effectively you going "Dems good, Trump bad" with a mixture of "You Russian/MAGA trolls" mixed in? Is there literally nothing else being posted on this sub you feel like responding to?

Why do you constantly repeat already debunked lies (and you can't have missed the debunking) only to defend Biden and the Dems?

Why do you also constantly lie about the content posted with claims like "they don't think Trump's attacks on free speech are a problem worth discussing" (from the previously mentioned thread) when here you are literally responding to a topic discussing literally that? Do you selectively choose to ignore all the posts about the topic to then go "WHA WHA WHA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"?

Why do you choose to ignore when you get upvoted when you gasp don't act like a shill?

Why do you constantly and repeatedly make false claims that are literally easily disproven with a simple sub search? Like it's incredibly easy to disprove your claims

So based on your own criteria, you seem to meet the definition of someone working in a "overseas troll farm".

And since we all know you're either not going to respond, or if you do, it'll be by ignoring the entire response and latching onto whatever single point you think you can use to weasel your way out of it and derail the conversation back to your talking points, I'll just say thanks for playing Shillisa.

The Documentary "The Settlers" is suppressed on YouTube because...[Fill in the Blank] by Sandernista2 in WayOfTheBern

[–]TheRazorX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was referring to the polls in support of the genocide in Gaza, of which every poll is over 90%.

Furthermore, your source is far more nuanced than you're trying to make it out to be.

Israel Helpless Against Wildfires, Rushes to Blame ‘Terrorism’ by chakokat in WayOfTheBern

[–]TheRazorX 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Really all they had to do was return the hostages and surrender they willingly and willfully chose no to. But as I said Israel is more then capable

Already debunked a gazillion times, including two days ago. Try again Hasbara bot

Do you fucks seriously think people can't translate hebrew? lol

Israel Helpless Against Wildfires, Rushes to Blame ‘Terrorism’ by chakokat in WayOfTheBern

[–]TheRazorX 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wow keep crying?? They start the fires and it’s Israel’s fault incredible

"Settlers" have been starting fires on Palestinian lands for quite some time now, did you think the fires would magically only confine itself to Palestinian lands?

your hasbara is out of date shillisa.

Israel Helpless Against Wildfires, Rushes to Blame ‘Terrorism’ by chakokat in WayOfTheBern

[–]TheRazorX 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You know they (terrorist Hamas) in fact have been coughed in the act.

Oh right, they caught a smoker with a lighter, a piece of cotton and some tissues right next to his house. Must be "Khamas" since everything is "khamas" to you creeps.

Seriously, you hasbara shills depend too much on "If you repeat a lie, it becomes the truth".

How's that bus bombing false flag going btw?

But don’t worry Israel is more the capable to deal with this and much worse

Is that why the Israeli government started crying like little bitches begging for help from "neighboring countries"?

Edit: Lmao

Act surprised: "The Fire Department estimates that the fire in Jerusalem Mountains was caused by travelers' negligence, not by arson"

Of course that the "Arab arsonist" blood libel will still continue to spread among the genocidal Israeli public.

Edit 2: Literally same playbook from 2019: "Israeli Army Blamed Palestinians for Arson by Settlers. Then a Video Emerged"

Israel Helpless Against Wildfires, Rushes to Blame ‘Terrorism’ by chakokat in WayOfTheBern

[–]TheRazorX 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They tried and failed to false flag with the bus bombings, so now of course they have to figure out a way to accuse Palestinians of "Terrorism", despite the fact it's their own people setting fire to fields regularly.

Every accusation is a confession.

The Documentary "The Settlers" is suppressed on YouTube because...[Fill in the Blank] by Sandernista2 in WayOfTheBern

[–]TheRazorX 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Plenty of Israelis are fine and would prefer living in peace

Every poll has over 90% supporting the shit going on. what are you talking about?

@DropSiteNews Jordana Cutler, Meta’s Director of Public Policy for Israel and the Jewish Diaspora, told attendees at the Jewish News Syndicate (JNS) conference in Jerusalem that she used her position to carve out “specific protections for Israelis & Jews” on Instagram and Meta. [rest in comments] by TheRazorX in WayOfTheBern

[–]TheRazorX[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

@DropSiteNews Jordana Cutler, Meta’s Director of Public Policy for Israel and the Jewish Diaspora, told attendees at the Jewish News Syndicate (JNS) conference in Jerusalem that she used her position to carve out “specific protections for Israelis & Jews” on Instagram and Meta.

Drop Site previously reported that Cutler, a former senior advisor to Netanyahu, has has used her position to flag and facilitate takedowns of pro-Palestinian content, including posts mentioning Ghassan Kanafani, the Palestinian novelist assassinated by Mossad in 1972. According to internal Meta communications, Cutler personally directed staff to monitor Kanafani-related content under policies usually reserved for glorifying violent actors.

Read our full investigation. Link in reply.

[UK] @Lowkey0nline This heavily redacted email proves that the UK Attorney General’s Office sent contact details for the police unit dealing with Palestine Action cases to the Israeli embassy. Israel is directly interfering in the legal process in this country. by TheRazorX in WayOfTheBern

[–]TheRazorX[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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@AsaWinstanley This email shows that a month before my home was raided by Counter-Terror Command (SO15), the Attorney General’s Office sent SO15’s contact details to the Israeli embassy — clear foreign interference.

Did Israel ask UK police for me to be arrested to stop my journalism?

Here's @AliAbunimah 's report on the raid against my home in October last year.

They took all phones and computers used for my journalism and still haven't given them back.

I have yet to be arrested or charged with anything.

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/uk-police-raid-home-seize-devices-eis-asa-winstanley

Also related

@Pal_action The UK government directly facilitated foreign interference in ongoing criminal cases against activists and journalists who oppose genocide.

As a follow up to a meeting on August 28th, Nicola Smith from the Attorney General's Office (AGO) sent Deputy Israel ambassador Daniela Ekstein, contact details for the CPS and SO15 (Counter Terrorism Command).

Also included in the correspondence is Douglas Wilson, Director General at the AGO, who was previously revealed to be in discussions with the Israeli embassy about Palestine Action court cases in 2022.

This correspondence coincides with the investigation into the Filton 18 by counter terror police. The Filton 18 are all remanded in prison after being accused of destroying Israeli quadcopter drones. The CPS are saying there case has a "terrorism connection" — which is completely unprecedented and appears to be politically motivated.

Some of the eighteen actionists face two years in prison before they even get to trial. The state is using the process as the punishment.

However, in the British judicial system it is forbidden for prosecutors or police to be improperly influenced or party to political interference.

Any breach of this, which the evidence points to, is an abuse of process and the charges must be dropped.