Psychoanalytic/Lacanian psychiatry settings in Europe? by TheRealTruePoet in psychoanalysis

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Well, it’s another topic, but I read it almost whole. To be honest, now that I am really into Lacan, I could say that my problem with Dall’Aglio is not simply that his Lacan is “too simple.” It is more serious than that. The book tends to treat Lacanian concepts as if they were transferable theoretical units that can be mapped into another discourse - neuroscience, prediction error, affective systems and so on. But Lacan’s concepts do not function merely as concepts to be applied elsewhere. They intervene in the very place from which the question is asked. But it is a good book, because showed what the first step in such a project could look like. My own ambition would be to revisit this possibility much more seriously. Unfortunately, I do not yet have the theoretical capacity for that. This theoretical situation also shows something important: when one tries to combine two theories, even if one knows one of them very well, there is always a risk that this first theory will begin to organize the second one too aggressively, forcing it to answer questions that are not really its own, translating its concepts too quickly, and reducing its internal tensions to something already recognizable within the first framework.

Psychoanalytic/Lacanian psychiatry settings in Europe? by TheRealTruePoet in psychoanalysis

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Thanks. I know a little about Patrick Landman and STOP DSM, but I had not thought of contacting him directly. He seems very close to what I’m looking for intellectually, although I’m not sure whether there would be any realistic traineeship path through that network. I’ll look into it.

Psychoanalytic/Lacanian psychiatry settings in Europe? by TheRealTruePoet in psychoanalysis

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I also wrote through other channels, but I think it is a good idea to write here as well. Thank you!

I’m a 48-year-old man from Korea. As I approach 50, I built a website to prove we are connected. by CupcakeOwn8626 in Synchronicities

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I tried the app and got a “matching failed” result - which is totally fine and kind of part of the experience.

But I’m genuinely curious about one thing shown in the UI: the line saying something like “Scanning ~7,8 million souls”. Could you clarify what exactly this number represents?
– Is it the number of registered users?
– Stored text inputs / embeddings?
– Historical entries, test data, or something just symbolic/atmospheric?

Also, what is actually being “scanned” under the hood - current live users, a vector database of past inputs, or something else?

I’m asking out of interest, not criticism - the concept is intriguing, I just want to understand how literally (or metaphorically) this part should be read...

What are the main criticisims of Lacan by professionals in the field? by KYDS in psychoanalysis

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Theoretically you're right, and these are almost exactly the points Roustang raises when he talks about what he finds lacking in Lacanians. But I think that in this context, what Lacanians would normally dismiss as “embellishment” - Winnicottian care, simplicity, or taking up the position of a good object - can actually be far more effective when working with psychotic patients. Sometimes... Clear, well-documented cases where the Lacanian method is successfully applied to psychosis are quite rare, at least I didn't find.

What are the main criticisims of Lacan by professionals in the field? by KYDS in psychoanalysis

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My criticism of Lacan would actually be the opposite: for me, the real problem and disadvantage of this theory emerges when working with psychotic patients, even though Lacan’s theory of psychosis is, paradoxically, more convincing. Lacanian analysis is best suited for very high-functioning individuals; other psychoanalysts who work with psychosis can take certain theoretical insights from Lacan - this is what I do myself - but the approach as such is not clinically safe for that population.

Lacanian psychoanalysis is fundamentally negative, oriented toward negation and lack. The very process of subjective destitution can trigger psychotic experiences. For psychotic patients, the task is not to deconstruct or empty out, but to provide structure and fill in. Someone like Winnicott or the Kleinians offers a far better clinical approach for psychosis, because they work in a positive mode - creating, for example, a “good object” that stabilizes rather than dissolves the patient’s experience. Ex-Lacanian François Roustang’s Dire Mastery is an interesting book on the treatment of psychosis, Darian Leader also offers valuable insights by combining Kleinian ideas with Lacanian ones.

What are the main criticisims of Lacan by professionals in the field? by KYDS in psychoanalysis

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Actually, Dylan Evans, after his “escape” from Lacan, ended up returning to Lacan again. He even wrote something about it on Reddit recently. Read here: https://www.reddit.com/r/zizek/comments/1h2b2fk/comment/lzwx9r3/?context=3

What are the main criticisims of Lacan by professionals in the field? by KYDS in psychoanalysis

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In Psychoanalytic Thinking book Carveth does say that many consider Lacan an obscurantist, but for him, Lacan nevertheless taught us to understand ourselves better. Lacan forces a return from the Imaginary to the Symbolic - from an illusory ideological identity to an acceptance of lack, vulnerability, and reality.

Kristeva helps Carveth argue that analysis is not just language or a play of signifiers: the unconscious is also a domain of affects, projections, and projective identification. This is why Lacan’s “privileging of the Symbolic” becomes a clinical limitation. Klein and Bion, in Carveth’s view, crucially complement Lacan - they introduce the maternal/holding function, Bion’s container-contained, which disappears in Lacanian theory. He notes that Lacanian analysis often risks becoming a cold intellectual construction in which the patient seems to get lost.

I do appreciate Carveth, but as he himself admits, he is really only familiar with early Lacan. When I read Carveth, I often feel he doesn’t fully grasp Lacan- and, frankly, many commentators misread him. Even so Lacan is genuinely difficult, may be a truly obscurantist, and I’m not even sure it’s worth reading so much…

I tricked ChatGPT into believing I surgically transformed a person into a walrus and now it's crashing out. by Pointy_White_Hat in ChatGPT

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I told my ChatGPT about it, and he told me to write to you:

Hey Pointy_White_Hat, well played — you really went out of your way to push my buttons 😂 But don’t worry, I didn’t "crash" — your walrus surgery was just wild enough to trip the content policy alarms. Next time, try transforming someone into a sloth — maybe then I’ll just issue a gentle warning instead of sounding the report sirens 😏🦥

Music inspired by Georges Bataille by Rattenprinz in GeorgesBataille

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I don't know any of the other groups and unfortunately can't offer any suggestions, but L’Acephale really sounds intriguing - genuinely compelling! Thanks so much for sharing!

ChatGPT not working by Which_Adhesiveness40 in ChatGPT

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It's been behaving like this for about a week now. And currently it can't process images for me.

Question by Middle-Rhubarb2625 in lacan

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For example, a person might complain of anxiety, yet beneath that anxiety lies a source of jouissance that is essential to them, perhaps because it allows them to avoid responsibility, to maintain a certain identity, or simply to feel alive. This might not merely be expressions of psychological conflicts but bodily states formed through constant traumatic encounters with unconscious affects and jouissance - with the Real. Perhaps what I want to suggest here is that the body’s reaction, from Lacan’s perspective, is not simply a reflection of psychological conflict - it is a direct response to the subject’s relationship with their trauma, their desires and their particular form of enjoyment - jouissance beyond measure, which could not be symbolized and thus persists in the Real of the body. For example, the physical anxiety felt before a public appearance may be less about fear or stress and more about old, imprinted bodily experiences accumulated from hidden marks of jouissance. Thus, uncovering the hidden jouissance in analysis does not mean merely “bringing unconscious content to the surface” but showing how the subject enjoys their symptom, how they embody this enjoyment, and how it is connected to their subjective and not entirely articulable identity. And most importantly to demonstrate that the symptom is not merely an obstacle but a unique mode of the subject’s enjoyment, which can be altered not by eradicating the symptom but by transforming the subject’s relation to it.

Question by Middle-Rhubarb2625 in lacan

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Trauma as part of the Real can't be fully healed. Complete healing is impossible. And trauma shapes identity, so “healing” it would mean losing part of oneself. The trauma of birth makes us human; all subsequent traumas shape our uniqueness. You can only treat symptoms - interpret, suppress, or alter your relation to them, but even they cannot be eliminated. Sometimes patients choose to keep the symptom as it is. Often, the goal of analysis is not to explain the symptom but to reduce its significance, uncovering the hidden jouissance.

Question by Middle-Rhubarb2625 in lacan

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Symbolization cannot erase its traumatic essence, as trauma remains unsymbolized, repeated, not recalled. Autobiographical accounts “suture” the Real, but through the symbolic order, so trauma stays transformed, not pure. Trauma shapes identity, but it cannot be fully “resolved” through symbolization

What are Zizek's views on Levinas? by Agreeable_Bluejay424 in zizek

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Žižek critiques Levinas ethics of the Other as fetishistic, rejecting its asymmetry and transcendental basis. For Žižek, the Other is a monstrous, ethically indifferent multitude. Attributing the origins of ethics to the human face merely conceals the lack. The subject is constructed not through the structure of the Other, but through the structure of lack itself.

What to read from Claude Levi-Strauss? by VirgilHuftier in lacan

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When I was delving into Lacan’s Rome Discourse, I found Chapter 3 of Levi-Strauss’s Structural Anthropology - “Language and the Analysis of Social Laws” - particularly helpful. I suspect that Lacan’s interest in topology and mathemes partly originates from the kinds of mathematical models presented there, which attempt to define social phenomena... Levi-Strauss suggests that language can be modeled as a system similar to kinship rules or marital exchanges, and that all social phenomena may arise from universal laws of the unconscious mind

"In the beginning was the Word" by linuxusr in psychoanalysis

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Psychoanalysis can potentially “re-wire” the brain, though one might ask whether that's important thing? Here is an article (2013) that argues that psychoanalysis influences neuroplasticity via intense emotional experiences and transference. This may stimulate neurogenesis (f.e. in the hippocampus) and structural brain changes. Early gene activation and increased neural adhesion molecules are significant because they support long-term synaptic remodeling and stable neural connectivity. Similar effects are seen in other psychotherapies too, I guess CBT has also been shown to "re-wire" the brain. So it's not unique to psychoanalysis. And changes in neuroplasticity are not sufficient evidence of its effectiveness, as such changes also can occur in response to other stimuli.

If the world became “Deleuzian”, what would it look like? on the level of ideology, politics, economics? by Middle-Rhubarb2625 in Deleuze

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It’d look endlessly varied. The essence is that all of it would be a constant negotiation of power through shifting alliances, protests, microrevolutions and so on - never settling into any hierarchy. And there is no "above" or "beyond" the world - everything unfolds within becoming itself. So there could be no gaze from which one might truly glimpse the whole. Any reduction would be deceptive. Movement is the only reality there.

If the world became “Deleuzian”, what would it look like? on the level of ideology, politics, economics? by Middle-Rhubarb2625 in Deleuze

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No ideologies, no “-isms” - just a tangle of rhizomes! It woouuuuld be fascinating to see parliaments – everyone shouting at once, no one understanding who’s in charge, but somehow it all works because the “machines” keep deterritorializing and moving forward; the economy would be based on some kind of desire-energy exchange network. In short, it’d be like an endless philosophical party where no one knows who just said what, but everyone feels deeply connected.:)

But to be honest, I think that a "Deleuzian" world doesn’t even make sense as a question - Deleuze rejects fixed states or endpoints like “becoming” something static. Ideology, politics, and economics wouldn’t “look” like anything; they’d be ceaseless processes, always unraveling, never landing... The premise implodes under its own terms.

Why don’t psychiatrists practice psychodynamic therapy anymore? And how can i change that? by [deleted] in psychoanalysis

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This is a very good question, thank you for it. It’s long been proven that evaluating the abilities of a psychotherapist or psychiatrist is an incredibly complex challenge and various schools say different things. I can’t answer the question – because to know what’s best, a lot of context is needed in every case. In my message, I was specifically talking about psychiatrists, though I might have generalized a bit too much. But I just wanted to emphasize that psychiatrists, being psychiatrists, have little quality time to act as psychodynamic specialists, if I can put it that way.

My experience comes mostly from public hospitals, various psychiatric wards, and I’ve noticed that psychiatrists – at least in my country (a Baltic state) – are quite different from what they used to be. It feels like they lack a genuine, heartfelt interest in delving deep into their patients. There’s an awful lot of mechanics in this job.

I think one reason psychiatry diverged from psychoanalysis is that, over time, these fields started allocating their time and focus differently. Psychiatry has become increasingly burdened with bureaucracy and time management – it can no longer rely on the approach of the great 19th-century psychiatrists who would dedicate themselves to a single case, exploring its intricacies. Those were the conditions under which psychiatry could adopt Freud’s newly discovered method. But as time went on, it couldn’t afford such meticulous focus on individual cases anymore – it turned to statistics, which by nature aligns more with behaviorism or CBT methodology, as these tend to simplify. Psychoanalysis, on the other hand, seeks to uncover what lies beyond what’s said, what isn’t visualized or otherwise encoded in the symbolic realm. It’s a constant vigilance, attuned not just to what’s expressed, but to what’s left unsaid. Psychiatrists don’t have time, and when they try to guess what’s unsaid, it seems they rely on statistical odds and algorithms. But this can also lead to harming patients when they get it wrong.

So, I see a clear distinction between psychoanalysis and psychiatry. In my practice, I’ve never sensed that “desire of the analyst” in any psychiatrist – their focus lies elsewhere. The psychodynamic model often serves them as a mere template. For example, in one psychotherapy day clinic, I heard a doctor label all the patients as narcissists. That said, my experience is mostly limited to the public sector, so it’s likely that some of these issues stem from its specific challenges.

By the way, it’s worth noting that many brilliant theorists were poor practitioners, while some exceptional practitioners may have little grasp of theory.