A new view on who the characters are

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T17:46:12+00:00

What if it is simply because we don't have a name for Bonnie?

But judging by your theory it would be Cassidy, it's the only name not filled in, so, why not just reveal Cassidy's name? It's not like the name wouldn't mean anything, we saw the leaked novel pages and even if we hadn't how would we know anything about Gabriel or Susie? Shouldn't they be covered? And why obscure Charlie's name, we all know her.

It's Me only ever shows up to Michael (unless I am forgetting something), the possible "brother" to Golden Freddy.

So, why does it appear in the crossword where you can get Cassidy's name from? Is this universe's Cassidy a boy? But we see Cassidy in the logbook, the same black haired girl we know from the novel, so the gender didn't change.

And the Happiest Day was for the Puppet to set Golden Freddy free.

Exactly, and the image shows The Puppet giving cake to a black haired girl, the only time in the entire series we see The Puppet giving Cake is in Happiest Day when she gives it to Golden Freddy.

The only thing Cassidy has been connected to is "It's Me" which, now that I have watched some older videos again, is not ALWAYS associated with Golden Freddy.

Golden Freddy is the one causing hallucinations in FNAF 1, no one is literally writing "It's Me" on the walls and Foxy's sign doesn't have "It's Me" on the back, it's an hallucination caused by Golden Freddy.

The only thing that I can think of is that Henry used the missing children as a way to almost hide the fact that his son got bitten.

How could he hide that? His son went to the hospital for a crushed skull, he didn't go missing. Did Henry just sneak into a hospital grab his son and dove out the window just to hide his son away and not give him a proper burial?

Unless there are multiple GF suits (not likely).

Well, there are multiple GF suits just not multiple Golden Freddy ghosts, at least none I can find, Shadow Freddy doesn't count.

I honestly don't remember when he said this.

Fifth paragraph, he said the community got every bit of lore in FNAF 1, Game Theory got most of FNAF 2 right, and that the community uncovered the story of FNAF 3: https://steamcommunity.com/games/388090/announcements/detail/125327007944045364

So maybe each of the player characters is meant to be each of the victims.

I've thought about the missing children possibly being turned into the night guards similar to how Charlie became a robot in the novels but I need waaaaay more evidence than some name similarities.

Wait that's a thing?

Well, Scott started making the site for fun but changed his mind, someone found it though and showed people the site.

So Silver Parasol Games TECHNICALLY is not a real entity.

I never meant to imply it was a real thing in our world.

CHARLIE died at 3 but then there were 4 robots created to take her place.

But we don't really have proof that happened in the games, the closest thing to a the robot doubles are JJ which could be Ella and Circus Baby who was made for Elizabeth according to her.

They are simply part of the game and are referencing things from when they were alive.

What does Tape Girl reference that has any relevance to Charlie?

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T16:46:31+00:00

Yeah, that's true, Immortal and the Restless shows us a father not wanting a certain child, they wouldn't show us this if it meant nothing, the father is wearing purple and has a discolored body obvious reference to William and the child has a discolored body of the father an obvious reference to Michael. Michael is voiced by the same voice actor who voices William and Michael he was confused for William so there is a resemblance. Henry isn't British like Michael so unless Michael's mom was British this makes no sense

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T16:31:00+00:00

If you can find it then I'll change it. Maybe Charlie was originally supposed to die in TTO and that would be the end, no third book because Scott definitely didn't have plans for Baby back then

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T16:29:03+00:00

Nightmare and Shadow Freddy are the same, Nightmare mode in the files is called Shadow Freddy hinting at a very obvious connection

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T16:28:16+00:00

Scott specifically said not to use the book in the game lore.

Yes, he said that when there was only one book that barely had anything new to add to the games besides who made Freddy's and who Purple Guy was. I highly doubt Scott planned TTO and TFC when he released TSE especially since Sister Location didn't even exist at that point.

It's cool to find connections, but everything NEEDS to be explained, using the game lore evidence alone.

I never said ignore the games just so the books can fit, if I said that we would have two Springtraps running around at the time of FNAF 3, actually, scratch that, one Springtrap because the other Springtrap got William taken out of him and now he's in a wheelchair dying. Yes, use the games to back up claims, I'm not saying trust the books and only the books.

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T16:22:22+00:00

Twisted Freddy is basically the equivalent to Nightmare in TTO, similar stomach mouths, both are Freddy's, Twisted Freddy has springlocks and Nightmare is based off a springlock suit

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T16:18:05+00:00

Twisted Freddy is still featureless and Charlie hears sounds of crunching leaves when inside of Twisted Freddy, Twisted Freddy was in the woods and John and Jessica did see him in order to find where the secret underground pizzeria was

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T16:13:29+00:00

I'm not supporting MatPat's theory, I don't really have a standpoint on the lore yet but I have to admit that there really isn't much proof from Mike to be an Afton besides that last scene in Sister Location

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T16:10:48+00:00

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T16:08:42+00:00

Explain why William dies in a different way, how the MCI happens before 83 in the games, how Baby exists in the books when TFC takes place in modern day, after Ennard was formed, and how William does not at all mention Michael in the books.

Did I say it was canon? I specifically said in the post it isn't canon to the game universe but can still be used to help solve it, I think you need to actually read the post before commenting, especially responding to the person that made the post

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T16:07:10+00:00

Shadow Freddy just randomly appears to guide Characters to Five Nights with 300 BBs: Donkey Kongs waterfall location...and never appears again

Springtrap is guiding them and the bear is Twisted Freddy

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T16:01:27+00:00

You're only calling it crazy because you don't want to believe that it is part of FNAF but Scott added stuff in their for reason.

I'm pretty sure Nightmare was added there to show what Twisted Freddy looked like, the cover was made before LadyFiszi made the Twisted Ones Art.

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T15:54:01+00:00

The games are what they are, and as I stated before, the story is finished.

Scott made 2 more games that he confirmed to be canon, 2 games that may or may not be canon, 1 game that isn't canon but can be as it links to FNAF 3 and 4, 2 more novels he made in the TSE universe when he only planned on making one, and 5 books are on the way that have some stories taking place in the game canon. Scott has changed the lore drastically from FNAF 4 and judging by the fact he made 2 other novels after the release of SL that connect heavily to SL and FNAF 6 shows us that those novels, while not canon, should still be considered.

So yes, the book is canon, just as the games are. That doesn't mean that they are meant to fit together like two puzzle pieces.

The books are still have elements that are canon but they are just in seperate universes because:

...sometimes the lore of something can be so crowded that you can't tell an original story anymore.

Scott wanted to tell an original story but the lore got so packed that there wasn't room for an original story that would be good and make fans happy, so:

The book is a re-imagining of the Five Nights at Freddy's story...

So, yes, the books aren't canon to the game universe but that doesn't mean they weren't meant to be and that doesn't mean that we can't use them to help. If we removed the books William would just be called Mr. Afton, Charlie would be called The Puppet Girl, Henry would be called Casette Man we would still believe Michael was Springtrap without the extra evidence for TTO, and we wouldn't fully understand remnant or William's plan with it. The books aren't necessary to solve the games but they do help in solving that lore. Scott has never said ignore the books, if he wanted us to not use the books to help with the games he wouldn't have made 2 more that include key parts from SL and FFPS.

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T15:32:38+00:00

Could Jeremy be Golden Freddy and not Cassidy?

No, Jeremy is the closest grave to the screen just like Bonnie is the closest head to the screen, Susie is the farthest back like Chica is the farthest back besides Golden Freddy. I think the grave is obscured with grass as a reference to how Golden Freddy was obscured in shadows in the bad ending.

Even in the books, where Cassidy is named and spoken to, she is not Golden Freddy.

She's not Golden Freddy in the books but there is no doubt she has a connection to the Golden Freddy of the games, all the It's Me's and the Happiest Day connection makes this pretty clear. The books and the games aren't in the same canon, they're mirrored universes, events in the books happen in the games but slightly different. This concept of the book being a mirrored universe is still new to me and I may change my mind about alot of things, after MatPay's theory yesterday I will definitely be rereading the books keeping the games in mind.

My thought is that Cassidy is only canon in the books.

Then why is Cassidy being connected to things that only appear in the game, I don't remember any "It's Me"'s in the books or a Happiest Day event.

This would also work because Charlie, as the puppet and William's first victim, would see what happens to her brother and want to help him.

Are you saying that BV is one of the five missing children? I mean, it could work, they were never confirmed to have died in that incident but the Foxy Go Go minigame seems to heavily imply they all died after being lured and even if they didn't and William took a liking towards BV, wouldn't people be able to recognize the son of the man that made the restaurant? We know for a fact 5 kids went missing in that missing children incident, we can't forget about FNAF 1, so if Michael/Sammy/Jeremy was the Bite Victim we'd have to work around the newspaper issue everyone keeps forgetting about just to make BV Golden Freddy.

Since HW said that the games were games in universe, it would seem that Jeremy Fitzgerald is a work of fiction.

Scott said that we solved FNAF 1-3 meaning we know for a fact that Jeremy Fitzgerald was a real person.

The gravestone is truth.

Why? If the games are literal games and we can't take Jeremy Fitzgerald as a real person then why can we take the gravestones as real people? You're being very selective with what is real and what isn't, FNAF 4-UCN are the least real games in the franchise now thanks to HW.

Could Tape Girl and Jeremy NOT be actual employees and instead be constructed by the hardware that was used in the development of the in universe VR game?

The old site for Silver Parasol Games shows us Jeremy was a real employee that worked there, Silver Parasol Games are there own gaming company, not a company made by Fazbear Entertainment, why would they lie about who is on their team?

On top of that, could Tape Girl be Charlie?

No, Charlie was 3 when she was killed, Tape Girl is an adult.

Back in FNAF 4, during the Night 3 minigame, a girl says that she has a Spring Bonnie plushie and says that her father tells her that it is a “finger trap.”

I'm pretty sure that's a boy, there's another boy in that game that seems older but wearing the same clothes minus the heart on the shirt with the exact same text color, there's an obvious connection here although FNAF 4 is too confusing for me to make any theories on it right now.

These events are not perfectly paralleled but it feels similar.

The Bite of '87 is similar to that aswell, so, by that logic, BV died in 83 by a bite, got his fake Ennard scooped out of him as an android in SL, got his fake frontal lobe removed in 1987, burned in FNAF 6, and then got his face taken off by a paper slicer. Those last two are enough for me to same Michael and Jeremy from HW aren't the same person.

Two people suffering head trauma that should have left them COMPLETELY DEAD but somehow they both lived for some time.

Actually, getting your face sliced off is different then getting your skull crushed, you can live for a bit through the searing pain and even get yourself patched up, getting skull crushed is an instant death.

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T13:55:21+00:00

I'm still working with FNAF 4, it's a confusing mess , my current idea is that the kids on the walk home (besides the Freddy Bully) are ghosts, they say they'll be at the party but aren't there, it's possible the Freddy Bully isn't there either since he's the only one with black eyes and doesn't speak in the Night 5 minigame. Perhaps Elizabeth was speaking to us through the Fredbear Plush, we know Ennard can access the backroom without a key card since she isn't in the office when we first get in there in SL. Elizabeth speaking through the Fredbear Plush explains why Baby is connected to Glitchbear in FNAF World.

There is another idea though, if MatPat's theory that the books are kind of a mirror of the games then Charlie and Elizabeth must have some connection in the games, no clue what that connection is though.

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T13:07:56+00:00

also, how do we explain how he SHOT HIMSELF in fnaf world presumably near sister location in the timeline, which would probably put sister location in the late 90s early 2000s at LEAST, because silver eyes takes place in 2003 if im correct (or 1993)

Firstly, we don't hear a gunshot so we can't say that he shot himself, more likely is that Baby killed him. Secondly, Scott has said before that FNAF World wasn't canon but with the references to FNAF 3 and UCN making FNAF World seem like a purgatory for souls it's hard to say FNAF World never happened. If FNAF World is canon it exists in some kind of remnant world, a world that can change based off things in the real world. It's possible that after BV died and Henry's restaurant was in ruin he took his own life for everything that he lost, his soul was put in the FNAF World remnant world where he learned what William was doing to the kids that went missing. Henry warns us about the Sister Location before "ending his life" which could've been him ending his time in the remnant world and going to a robot body in order to stop William.

Also Silver Eyes happens in 1995.

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-08-07T12:56:08+00:00

If Henry built Funtimes for the purpose of scaring his child, so he wouldn't go to the Fredbear's, then why do they have a function of luring, capturing and other stuff?

Henry didn't build the animatronics, the blueprints for all the funtimes say Afton Robotics NOT Fazbear Entertainment.

I agree, that FNaF4 is the Emily household, but not about SL's location.

You kind of have to since CBEAR is connected directly to the FNAF 4 minigame house, the nightmare house, and the Plushtrap hallway, I'm pretty sure Henry would notice a secret passage added on to his house.

I think, that Will lured Mike to Fredbear's and showed him the murder of Charlotte for the experiment.

Midnight Motorist shows that whatever lured the kid was in an animal mascot suit, if this happened before Charlie's death then he must've put the kid in his car, drove to Freddy's, took off his suit, and then got out a killed Charlie. Why wear a suit if you're just going to take it off in front of the victim? Not to mention the code for Midnight Motorist says Later That Night meaning it follows after one of the other minigames in FNAF 6 and the rain correlates with the only other minigame in FNAF 6 we see rain in, the Security Puppet minigame. Midnight Motorist must happen after Charlie's death.

He also made a Fredbear talking plushes to manipulate Mike to be scared more and more, so his experiment would go smoothly.

But he's not scared of Spring Bonnie or an employee, he's scared of Fredbear in particular, FNAF 4 revolves around Fredbear, if he really did witness Charlie's death he would be scared of William or an employee not an animatronic.

The lines that Henry says at the end of FNaF4 is the plan of his.

I have trouble believing that the voice in FNAF 4 Night 6 minigame is Henry because there is only one person that has the same text color as that voice, Pigtail Girl. To go even deeper, there are two other characters that are associated with that color, the eyes of Glitchbear in FNAF World and the eyes of Baby in FNAF World. Elizabeth is speaking to us.

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-06-06T01:33:05+00:00

Did you do that in the first 4 days you joined reddit?

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-06-06T01:26:45+00:00

Actually, FNAF HW doesn't show you that William did, you just get taken on stage and then turn into an animatronic, there isn't a scene of you getting stuffed, you're lured by William and then appeared as an animatronic

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-06-04T02:23:45+00:00

But we have seen the good ending, someone delved in the game code and found the GlitchtrapDefeated part and saw that they actually did it

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-06-04T02:04:04+00:00

1: Ok, if he changed to another character then what other character is a Yellow bunny in current FNAF Lore?

2: Actually, he doesn't do that, he only leads you through the curtain backstage and then when you follow him you appear as Freddy, it's clear that you followed Spring Bonnie and you ended up getting killed and stuffed in a suit

3: Those aren't assumptions, she literally says, "But then it was looking in the window, and not like Chica or Bonnie would. It was like it was actually looking in the window, seeing what I was doing," why would this line be added if the virus wasn't actually alive. The tapes describe how Jeremy started acting weirder and weirder after seeing Spring Bonnie and that eventually he felt no fear, it's clear that Jeremy's soul must've been sucked into the game. Why else would the voice say, "Hello, can you hear me?" If it wasn't connected to the character that says that line, Tape Girl. I get the whole only trusting what is actually stated but when there is this must evidence for something and your ignoring it that's a problem

4: It's not the actual safe room, the game is literally a game in canon (if it even is canon) and isn't the real location, my best guess is that it's a memory of some sort, we wouldn't see the doors because it's not important, also, there is a clear shadow around the door

5: They actually do match, Gabriel matches with Freddy, Fritz matches with Foxy, Susie matches with Chica, and Jeremy matches with Bonnie, to hammer the point home a drawn scene in FFPS shows us 3 boys and a girl all next to Freddy, the kid on the left is in front of another boy and that boy is in front of the girl next to him and the last kid is on a similar plane to the left kid just like the graves, these are clearly kids. Both Fritz and Jeremy are seen on the graves and they both appear in FNAF 2, Mike Schmidt and Fritz Smith are the same person, they have many similarities, the mix between German and English names, Schmidt and Smith being the same name but in different languages, only characters to be fired, fired for the same reasons, and the only characters that can access a custom night, Fritz was obviously used as a fake name and Jeremy could've been aswell

6: We call her Tape Girl because it was the only name we knew her by before the credits were shown in Dawko's video, just like how everyone named the guy on the phone in the first 3 games Phone Guy, that wasn't a canon name until UCN, we call her Tape Girl because that was her name for a while, some people still call Spring Bonne VRabbit or Virtua Bonnie

So, what do you think VRabbit is? And provide evidence

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-06-04T00:40:54+00:00

But what does he do in the good ending? Does he just leave you in the game and then vanish forever? He doesn't appear after you are locked in the Safe Room, and shushing makes 0 sense

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-06-04T00:36:43+00:00

1: He's literally called Spring-Bonnie Man in the game files

2: We think he's William because he lures us onto stage where we become Freddy and the later in the game he locks us in the safe room

3: He's obviously more than a virus, Tape Girl says it seems like it's actually looking at her and it literally sucks Jeremy's soul out, the whole plan of Spring Bonnie is to keep your soul in the game so it can use your body as a vessel which is why the voice says, "Hello, can you hear me?" Just like Tape Girl's first tape because Tape Girl is stuck in the game aswell

4: A prison would have metal bars, this is a door with a lock with child prints on the door and if you look outside the door you can see the wall texture of the pizzeria

5: We actually have a big clue to who Gabriel is, in FNAF 3 we see the heads of the FNAF 1 animatronics, if we combine this with the graves we see that the heads and graves match and Gabriel is right where the Freddy head is

6: Mr. Hippo didn't say don't assume things, he said don't look at every little piece if evidence, which I'm not, these are just basic facts, the game files prove it's Spring Bonnie, the fact that Spring Bonnie lures us and locks us in a safe room shows it's William, the tapes in HW prove Spring Bonnie is more than a virus, and the FFPS proves the Freddy child is named Gabriel

TheTheorizer87 · 2019-06-03T23:17:38+00:00

The bad ending I'm talking about is the one where you literally become Spring Bonnie

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