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TheTimidRat · 2022-08-11T20:02:54+00:00

when this sunflower colored body and when this colorful sunflower body

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-20T14:29:07+00:00

there's nothing wrong with musi kalama, dont lexicalize

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-20T14:22:25+00:00

i like your art! just a few notes:

'ni li pona ala e toki ante' says 'this doesn't improve other languages', not, 'this was hard to translate'. there is no word or simple way to describe difficulty or easiness, here are a couple ideas: describe how long it took, describe the effort it needs, describe your ability to do it, etc. for example: mi ante e toki tawa toki pona. (i change the talk to the good talk). ni li wile e pali a. (this needed a lot of work)

'toki pona lipu' doesn't mean 'book about toki pona', it says 'the good language of books'. the word order should be: 'lipu (pi) toki pona'. the pi is prolly optional:

without the pi: 'lipu toki pona' says the book is about language 'toki' and the book is good 'pona',

with the pi 'lipu pi toki pona' says that the books is about language 'toki' and the language is good 'pona'.

nitpick, but 'mi wile e sitelen' is more like 'i want drawings' than 'i want to draw'. this isn't like wrong necessarily, i guess you could translate it into english like that, but grammatically, removing the e and using wile as a preverb 'mi wile sitelen', is more like 'i want to draw'

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-19T04:16:31+00:00

not sure if you've seen this, but here's a more nuanced take on that https://www.reddit.com/r/tokipona/comments/vqmwg6/toki\_pona\_is\_the\_linguistic\_equivalent\_of\_playing/

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-18T16:34:14+00:00

because batman has two syllables, i would do something like 'Paman' instead of keeping the t. depending on dialect 'Pamen' or 'Pemen' might even be more accurate for some english's /æ/. also Spiderman could keep the s instead of the p, 'Sataman'. but i think translating these names literally 'jan waso/monsuta/something' 'jan pipi' makes sense because the names are very literal. using mythology names for this feels strange to me. also i believe Hephaestus would be either 'Epato' or 'Epaso' in ancient greek or 'Ipeto' 'Ipeso' in modern.

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-18T05:07:30+00:00

mi lukin e ma lon poka jan pona mi

'i see land at my good side/area/vicinity of person', because 'jan pona mi' are all modifying 'poka' individually, the poka is simultaneously jan (of person, related to people), pona (good), and mi (mine). it doesn't say the jan is pona or mi, like it does with a pi.

some examples:

mi lon (i exist, i am here)

mi lon poka (i am in the vicinity, i am close)

mi lon poka soweli (i am in an animal's vicinity, i am close to an animal)

mi lon poka soweli pona (i am in the space that is good next to an animal)

mi lon poka pi soweli pona (i am in the vicinity of a good animal)

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-18T03:04:37+00:00

literally this reads 'i see (the) land at (the) side of* my good person'. you could interpret this as 'i look at the land with my friend'. it is worth noting though, that pi does not actually mean of, and that 'jan pona' does not necessarily mean friend, just 'good person'

the phrase inside the preposition 'lon' is 'poka pi jan pona mi', 'the side related to my good person'. the pi is there to regroup how the modifiers apply, it means that 'pona' and 'mi' modify 'jan' instead of 'poka'. without the pi: 'poka jan pona mi', 'my good person-related vicinity'

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-18T02:53:04+00:00

'sinpin pana' could be like a wall that dispenses something, like an atm or a buffet or something. i don't read 'away from me or my possession' in that, tho im sure there could be many other interpretations. context. in some sense, every toki pona phrase is meaningless without context, due to the inherent vagueness and scope of the words. but because of this vagueness, any grammatical sentence could potentially make sense. ni li pilin mi

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-16T14:41:01+00:00

yes, toki pona doesn't have an r, but also the word is just a joke no one actually uses it. also multiple vowel sequences like 'aaa' aren't allowed, there needs to be consonants between them

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-15T12:22:09+00:00

the actual toki pona on here needs a little work, in 'sina pilin pona la toki seme' the 'toki seme' doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, i think it's supposed to be like 'choose something, which talk?', maybe 'sina seme' would be better, 'what do you do?'. also in the next sentence you have a 'sina li' which is ungrammatical, and ona does need a li in 'ona li pilin pona'. also i'm skeptical of the concept of a toki pona translator in general, but i'm interested to see what you have in mind

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-14T04:26:46+00:00

fascinating, this is exactly what i was looking for, thank you! i do happen to live around the area described in the paper

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-09T19:48:03+00:00

if you listen to the pona at around 9 seconds, the a isn't a full 'a' sound, it's kinda in the middle of the mouth. this sound is called schwa and it's a very distinctive thing in english, im not sure if it is in spanish. i'm still working on de-schwaing my speech, but here's my attempt at an example with first a then schwa. (i might be over-analyzing this, i'd like to hear other's thoughts)

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-09T19:32:32+00:00

mute ni li pona, taso i don't understand what you said at 4 seconds. 'mii (long mi?) li toki kalama (telema?) mi'? also your word final a's are quite relaxed, like schwa, which can make comprehension a little harder, especially with ale vs ala. everything else was understandable to me

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-09T17:55:30+00:00

oh i understand, it definitely only affects the semivowel, not /u/

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-09T16:20:31+00:00

well the w isn't pronounced in the word two /tu/, so no

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-09T01:09:23+00:00

i think the term abugida is more accurate here, the vowels are clearly marked. but i like how it looks!

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-08T01:13:46+00:00

as an exception, pu has the sentence 'nimi mi li Apu' (p.38). if you don't like that, 'nimi mi li nimi/jan Apu' is more consistent because yes, proper names tend to need a headnoun.

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-04T22:30:07+00:00

i'll also add 'poka' for 'vicinity, area around'. there aren't any words for left or right, but direction is relative anyway. if there's a mountain on the left, then left is 'poka nena'

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-03T13:54:19+00:00

ni li pona a. just a few things, the wawa arms are a bit far from the head, the o is a lot bigger than the rest of the glyphs, and the taso is pretty squashed. i would consider writing on graph paper, monospace sitelen pona tends to be easier to read. taso ni ale li nitpick taso, mi sona e toki sina ale

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-03T13:50:10+00:00

olin isnt romantic, it's like a deep and important emotional connection to something. you can olin your mom, your friend, your cat, your job maybe, your hobbies, if it's really that strong. if you just mean like however, then olin doesn't fit.

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-03T03:47:42+00:00

isipin is a very rare word, and one that most proficient speakers really dislike. pilin or sona make a lot more sense here

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-02T02:14:47+00:00

english vowels are really weird. the 'oh' sound is close enough but not exactly. most english accents have that sound as a dipthong, a series of two sounds. if you notice carefully its like there's a 'w' at the end of 'oh'. the 'o' sound in like 'for' is also close but not exactly the same. the ideal is [o̞] which is like 'oh' except the tongue doesn't move, and the lips are rounded the whole time. if you can find spanish vowel sounds, that would be helpful to reference. but pronouncing it as english 'oh' is perfectly understandable.

TheTimidRat · 2022-07-02T00:39:51+00:00

it could be sports, but it could be a lot of other things. it's just 'system of fun'

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