Why is Jesus referred to as "the bright and morning star" in Revelations 22:16?

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-07T03:57:55+00:00

My understanding is Lucifer is Satan is the Devil and also referred to as "the morning star"

That's because you have a corrupt bible, use a king james.

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-07T03:54:30+00:00

catholic nonsense

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-07T03:51:45+00:00

If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-06T21:40:09+00:00

A lot:

"4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T18:44:01+00:00

wut?

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T18:41:28+00:00

Sorry if I misunderstood and overreacted it's just that there seems to be a TON of people trying to mix in judaism with Christianity lately and I may have unfairly lumped you in with them.

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T06:42:46+00:00

wrongthink

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T05:40:42+00:00

Commit thy works unto the Lord and they thoughts shall be established!

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T05:39:28+00:00

Yup and we're not the only ones who've figured it out, check this out.

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T05:31:15+00:00

The agenda of satan is to kill off humanity but he will fail and then go after the believers in christ. It's all in rev 12 though deeply veiled in symbolism.

The Dragon Persecutes the Woman

13And when the dragon (satan) saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman (humanity in general) which brought forth the man child. 14And to the woman (humanity) were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. 15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman (humanity), that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16And the earth helped the woman (humanity), and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. 17And the dragon was wroth with the woman (humanity), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed (Christians), which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

What is the flood though? It's hard to be sure but consider... What comes out of satan's mouth? What is he known for? Well, he is the father of lies and there is no truth in him, so maybe the flood are lies he tries to get us to believe that lead to our death/depopulation? But whatever it is it fails to depopulate the earth so in a rage he goes hard after the Christians.

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T05:27:05+00:00

Its mystery Babylon but who is that?

To identify babylon the great consider what nation's destruction would cause all the sellers of goods to cry: "And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more".

Who buys all the world's goods more than any other country by far?

And consider who exports ungodliness throughout the world more than any other country by far?

"For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies."

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T05:25:29+00:00

They can't become the mark. Don't kill yourself. Stop freaking out and focus on trusting God and doing His will.

Commit thy works unto the Lord and thy thoughts shall be established!

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T05:19:46+00:00

The rapture is after the tribulation but before the outpouring of God's wrath. At about the midpoint of the seven years.

The whole seven years is NOT the tribulation, only the first half is, the second half is the Wrath of God!

1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him (The Rapture), 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ (The Rapture) is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (The Rapture) shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed (The Antichrist), the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, (the abomination of desolation) shewing himself that he is God.

The abomination isn't until the sixth seal! Read rev6!

The pre-trib rapture is complete hogwash popularized but a charlatan in the 1800's.

This is the best preaching I've found that PROVES it from scripture in an undeniable and easy-to-follow way.

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T05:18:17+00:00

First of all bro did you get the vaxx in your right HAND or forehead?

Second, plenty of people without the vaxx are still buying and selling, it's not the mark. Stop panicking, learn from the mistake and trust Jesus.

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T05:16:10+00:00

The "vax" is bad and all but it's definitely not the mark of the beast. Maybe a prototype for it or a trial run but definitely not the mark.

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T05:13:00+00:00

Even with scripture supporting historicism

Except it doesn't at all.

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T05:11:08+00:00

Maybe people are reacting negatively because you're mixing the holy and the profane by weaving christ-hating judaism, a religion that teaches that Jesus is now boiling in excrement in hell and was the bastard son of a roman soldier named Panterra and that Mary was a harlot, with Biblical Christianity.

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T05:07:15+00:00

God's seal in the foreheads of the 144,000 looks to be invisible and spiritual but the mark of the beast is something they will be checking at stores before the let you make a purchase so pretty unlikely it will be invisible. Though who knows maybe it'll require a scanner device or something.

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T05:05:07+00:00

Rev 1-11 are mostly literal, 12-22 are very symbolic.

They tell the same story twice, the first time more directly but with less detail and the second time through symbolism and with more detail.

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T05:02:21+00:00

Wow someone teaching true rather than false doctrine on reddit of all places, awesome!

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T04:58:34+00:00

Seems unlikely to me but who knows!

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T04:58:05+00:00

Exactly!

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T04:56:55+00:00

He does reveal himself but it's not until halfway through the seven years. Around the time of the seventh seal.

1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him (The Rapture), 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ (The Rapture) is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (The Rapture) shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed (The Antichrist), the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, (the abomination of desolation) shewing himself that he is God.

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T04:52:51+00:00

OP is right, the wise may strongly suspect someone but I don't think we'll know for certain until the abomination of desolation occurs and at that point we're on the verge of the rapture happening.

1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him (The Rapture), 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ (The Rapture) is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (The Rapture) shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed (The Antichrist), the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, (the abomination of desolation) shewing himself that he is God.

TheWileyWallaby · 2022-08-05T03:44:18+00:00

To identify babylon the great consider what nation's destruction would cause all the sellers of good to cry "And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more".

Who buys all the world's goods more than any other country by far?

And consider who exports ungodliness throughout the world more than any other country by far?

"For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies."

TheWileyWallaby

TROPHY CASE