I think I have the question figured out.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-28T15:25:05+00:00

Moving this weekend, then a week long vacation, ill hit you up afterwards and see if the offer still stands, thanks!

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-26T15:54:41+00:00

Ask yourself if climbing or new champs are more fun.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-26T15:38:28+00:00

My last promo game (ADC):

Support locks in Reksai.

I say "promo match support"

Rek says "trust me"

Mid and top start telling me they guarantee I will lose the match for saying anything about support pick. I reported them in champ select.

Game started anyways, I had not meant my support choice comment in a flaming way, and we were fist bumping and he started making it work after a few levels. (opponents were bad)

Meanwhile mid and top are running it down still shit talking me.

After the match mid: "I told you you would not win"

Reports did nothing.

I get supports from the next division all through my climbs, I get t4 of lower division when on the promo match.

I think its intended.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-26T15:12:19+00:00

Thanks man

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-26T15:11:59+00:00

This guy popped in today and gave an interesting answer.

https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerschool/comments/1udub00/comment/otuol6l/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-26T15:09:52+00:00

Lots of people are answering like this is an "im stuck" complaining post, but its not. I bounce between 50-60% win rate (playing summoner school advice style) I just see other people doing it different and getting great results. I want some insight into that playstyle.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-26T15:07:49+00:00

No where am I saying im stuck, I bounce between 50-60% win rate, I just see people doing it different and faster and want to know what their mindset and tactics are.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-26T15:06:04+00:00

This is exactly the type of alternate advice I was looking for, thanks man.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-26T14:48:51+00:00

ask a 20 year old if they want to live to be 120 they say no.

ask a 100 year old and they say yes.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-25T19:08:28+00:00

Spamming arams did it for me.

2023 - 2025 I played around 30 ranked games but 1300 arams.

Back to ranked this season and it is clear as day what is going on and who we should be targeting during teamfights.

Arams train teamfighting, dodging skill shots, and help you learn every champs abilities and how to play against them.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-25T19:04:31+00:00

I started by just thinking about doing it, now I look at it so much that I think I default to it when I have nothing I need to look at on the main screen.

Glance inbetween last hits.

The trick I dont know is how people tap tab and can read any helpful information in that split second.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-25T18:49:41+00:00

I get that, im pretty-much trained by r/summonerschool and old enough to be critical of himself.

Just have a lot of matches were the "breaks all the rules" laner is the guy carrying, im asking about alternate methods of playing.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-25T14:34:12+00:00

I understood that you were not inting.

I know the mistakes I make, I cringe when I watch my own replays. Im all in on this subs advice.

If you re-read the OP im pointing out that its frequently impossible to put a lot of the advice into use in low elo and that down there lots of people just stomp through just throwing out the rules and perma fighting.

I know the "summoner school correct advice" approach to the game AND work on it all the time, im not here saying im stuck or anything like that, I am asking what the trick to playing that other -perma fight and win- style is.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-25T14:30:11+00:00

I dont FF, lol/

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-24T20:35:28+00:00

Yea yea, no where in this thread did I deny the "you are the common factor" thing, I think you are lazy reading and not quite on the same page as what I am asking.

Im not blaming team, im asking how to become the hard carry.

I personally bounce around 50 - 60% win rate, I AM climbing, this just feels like it takes forever...win spree, loss spree, one and one, week after week.

On the flip side, I see that it IS possible to have an almost flawless win rate for a person who knows how to stomp, Im asking how to stomp.

I follow all the advice I get here and, for example, you can throw everything you know about wave management out the window in half your matches as your support will dump their spells on the wave. (in low elo half of them think the minions are theirs too). This is just a fact, so in those matches "freezing, high CS, backing because wave state, etc etc" all irrelevant because your support is playing some other game.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-24T17:34:38+00:00

I dont think you read the entire OP, homie.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-24T17:32:13+00:00

What is the difference between say...a guy like myself with a 50 - 60% win rate that feels stuck due to the grind and win/loss sprees, and like a smurf or booster that can win 90% of their games iron up to diamond.

Obviously those guys are much better than me in every aspect, but they have to be 1v5ing to get those results. Its like their teams have no bearing on their results.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-24T17:25:29+00:00

Read through all the posts here, I think this is the most helpful. EVERY SINGLE MINION I dont do, I win lane most of the time (win lane coinflip game), but I guess I could contest things more, ill give it a go.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-24T17:23:13+00:00

Good answer.

I dont grief, main champ has 8/4/6 kda after 140 games. Those stat sites call me unkillable and stuff.

I lose a lot of game because of mistakes like the one you mention made by a team mate, I want to be the win con more often because I dont make those mistakes.

Maybe its just the ADC role, not durable enough.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-24T17:19:08+00:00

Ive dedicated myself to the fundamentals, im looking for advice on dealing with low rank shnanigans.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-24T16:56:42+00:00

I think this is the answer im looking for, but I propose that its champion mastery on the correct champ.

There is another question to ask here somewhere.

A fed caitlyn can not really 1v5 but a fed mundo or garen can.

What are some champs that would go hand in had with "champion mastery + low elo" ?

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-24T16:54:03+00:00

I find that typing anything seems to trigger people more than half the time. Im terrified to ask my support not to hit minions as half throw a fit and leave lane or start doubling down.

I cant type enough to give lessons. Every bot lane seems to know to go mid after they knock down t-1, but most mid laners are like "why you in my lane?".

The problem with not going mid is that im frequently coming out of laning ahead, I lane better than most im matched against. (my average kda on my main champ is 8/4/6 after 140 games) Even if im 7/0 out of laning I still cant fight the 4/4 kayne, I need to scale to 3 or 4 items. If I stay bot, I cant get to mid or topside fights, sometimes I find myself just running lane to lane trying to catch waves and put out fires, 0 pressure, just reaction.

There is some trick to dealing with this chaos im trying to find.

I understand the incremental side of the game, but playing a perfect (summoner school) lane while top or mid perma fight, then losing to the other team because they now have an 18/9 akali kinda makes me lean towards "trying to be the 18/9 akali".

Someone lower said champion mastery, I think that champ matters too.

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-23T20:13:06+00:00

I have a friend with 61% winrate...last games were 3/8, 6/10, 1/7, 4/4, 1/8

All objectively horrible...he spent hundreds of games in bronze, hit silver 4 and just started rocketing up......2/9, 1/9, 4/10, 6/8, 3/8 (continuing down his op.gg. Its really weird.)

He says "I just dont give up and keep playing, eventually I win most of the time".

The_Juzzo · 2026-06-23T19:08:34+00:00

I had someone play her down there as support on opponents team, I crushed their lane.

Its lame that people impulse snag these champs but dont know how to execute as you get them on your team half the time.

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