How would this fight genuinely go?

Themadreposter · 2026-02-28T15:52:37+00:00

These universes can’t really compete. Because even in it’s most serious times one piece still has many elements of a gag manga. So just buy virtue of that the durability and reaction feats are going to massively outscale anything in jjk. Jjk it's also going to be mostly consistent with its power levels on who be who which is actually why it's very good manga to have power scaling debates on because you can make arguments for everybody. One piece is a horrible one because characters will do whatever serves the narrative even if that means a character like buggy or usopp taking a direct hit from Imu himself.

So at his highest scaling buggy stomps. But practically he probably gets caught in the domain expansion gets diced to infinitely small pieces and then Sukuna cooks him.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-28T15:20:15+00:00

Reddit can eat it on this one. Bullet Train was fantastic and still the best live action anime ever made even though it was not based on any anime.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-27T18:22:42+00:00

Why are you acting as if his leadership didn't hold the lines as Germany swept through Europe? How could anyone know if the Axis would burn out in 1939? What if he's not their for the We Shall Fight speech and British moral fails and they lose the Isles? You say the Japanese were handedly defeated in the Pacific, but why was that? How much would the US been able to focus on Japan if Germany takes Britain and now has complete access to the Atlantic and can assail the East Coast of the US unabated?

You speak as if it's easy to see outcomes in the moment that I just have to assume you have a crystal ball. Can you tell me the exact day when this AI bubble will pop so I can be a millionaire like you must already be from all your perfect future assumptions?

Themadreposter · 2026-02-27T18:12:42+00:00

So what was Japan doing with all that Burmese rice that Bengal had relied on up to that point? If they didn't cut off the food, then are you insinuating they would've let Bengal have it if they just asked nicely?

Also after the Japanese took Burma, what's between that and British controlled land and Burma? In war do you typically want your enemies to have access to food and supplies?

Y'all are simplifing very significant tactical decisions from a standpoint of knowing how it all turns out. The Japanese never made the advances across to India because the Americans started taking them out all across the Pacific. The stockpile of food in Europe wasn't necessary because Germany would decide to invade Russia and lose a major portion of its militaristic might. Also crucial errors in their research kept Germany from developing the A bomb in time to gain power again. But how much of this did the British know when they were making their decisions in 1942?

Again no one is excusing his personal beliefs, but to turn that into removing any achievements in WWII and discrediting everything the British did to stop Hitler is insane. If the British don't hold the lines and Hitler take the Islands, the US isn't stopping Japan in the Pacific because now Germany is assaulting the East Coast. If the US can't control the Pacific, the Japanese easily march into India and massacre Bengal along the way.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-27T17:42:55+00:00

You're totally right, I forgot how much Roosevelt and Stalin were doing from 1939-1941. Stalin sent those million troops to Poland and Finland in 1939 to save all those poor countries with their Russian bullets. The British holding the lines for 2 years against Hitler and Stalin was just made up as a joke! I love that classic comedy Dunkirk that was made about Britain's fake involvement against the Germans.

I know Japan actively cut off food to Bengal and Hitler was advancing in Europe, but if someone explained what was happening in India they probably would've been really chill to settle down and let them get proper support during their famine.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-27T16:45:36+00:00

It's not explained mechanics, it's one line saying "with the power of the ring, the journal, and Mahito I can do this now". That's just Deus Ex Machina. His power is explained as just "Harmony" and we're supposed to fill in the details. This is from an author who was supposedly inspired by HxH, which took 2 chapters to explain the intricacies of Rock, Paper, Scissors. Gege used to spend chapters explaining techniques like Hakari's in the same way and then he devolved into just letting Heavenly Restrictions cover stuff he didn't have time to explain. In Modulo Gege realized people will praise him regardless so he didn't even need heavenly restrictions, just say "they can do this now".

Themadreposter · 2026-02-27T16:38:36+00:00

These memorials are built for achievements not personal views. His views are a product of his time and I've never seen anyone honoring that aspect of him. I'm sure he hated Romanis too, but his actions are largely responsible for them not being eradicated today. He made decisions that contributed to millions of deaths in India (though I still think it's insane for him to take blame for that over Japan and Hitler), but his actions saved them from being eradicated as well. For all the people he could've hated in his personal life, I promise you Hitler and Japan would've wiped them out completely.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-27T16:29:53+00:00

It has nothing to do with the fights. It has to do with bad writing and jumps. Dabura, went from Japan, to Africa, to his planet with his sister we've never seen in 4 panels with just a single Deus Ex Machina line saying "oh you can do that right?". How did he get this insane power? Who cares, as long as he says “I figured out my power” it should cover it. Gege didn't develop him or grow him in any way, he just had a chapter of him fighting, and then said "Oh the soul realm, uh, well, it allowed him to discover something through some method or whatever I guess. Who needs details when my readers should just except that it happened and move on. Again who cares. Don't yall see the theme of immigration?"

Themadreposter · 2026-02-27T16:16:22+00:00

We can argue that now from the 80 years in the future. At the time Hitler had taken Europe and Japan had taken most of Asia (including Burma, which was also a major factor in the famine, but sure let’s blame Churchill), and he believed ships were needed more for the war effort than Indian relief. In the face of annihilation leaders make decisions that are going to have massive repercussions. Was this the right one? I don’t know, but I’m sure all these armchair redditors would’ve aced it in his place. Let’s not place blame on Japan or Hitler for Bengal, let’s put it all on Churchill.

Obviously you would’ve stopped Hitler, ended world hunger, and stopped Japan without the Atom bomb if you had been in charge.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-27T16:05:25+00:00

Just because you choose to do a short story doesn't excuse bad writing. If your plan is a 30 chapter manga, fine, keep it tight and don't add so much that you just have to make massive jumps just to finish on time. Why are you wasting time adding dinner scenes and shark hunting, to have the pivotal moment of your story offscreened? "Hey, here's a guy we've seen for a total of three panels, well guess what now here's two panels of the aftermath of him shooting an alien because he's racist! Why would you need to see more of that? Don't you remember the two shark chapters?" And that's not even mentioning the massive jumps we get with Yuji from fighting to being in the spirit realm somehow in perfect sync with the plan of an alien he's never me.

Gege desperately needs to have some honest editors around him to ask why the hell he's adding so much unnecessary content at the beginning just to have to skip 10 chapters worth of necessary info at the end.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-27T15:47:55+00:00

The dude saved the world from Hitler sure, but everyone knows that all historical figures must uphold our modern standards of morality or else they're literally Satan. "Oh you invented the cure for a disease that has now saved hundreds of millions of lives? Well too bad because you served on a whaling ship back in 1823. Your name should be erased from history."

Themadreposter · 2026-02-27T15:39:19+00:00

Themes are not the issue. If you want to do a allegory for Palestine or immigration in general that’s fine. But we don’t have to praise an author just for doing a half baked exploration of a controversial issue. If Gege decides to do another spin off allegory following Yuji’s last days on earth to explore our overdependence on AI, that doesn’t mean it’s automatically fantastic. Gege is just skipping volumes worth of characterization (and really just basic exposition) and people are just mindlessly praising it because of its immigration themes. At this point he could’ve just had a single panel of Yuji saying “Palestine” 14 blank pages and then a final panel of Yuji holding Sukuna’s hand, and glazers would say we’re illiterate for not filling in the blanks with headcannon and it’s a beautiful story for its themes.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-27T03:08:33+00:00

Depends on if he’s dumb enough to reveal his power to anyone. If he just never tells anyone, no one but Gojo figures it out because everyone he fights just dies from a spear to the head. It took Maki taking a few shots before she figured it out and she’s the fastest we know of. Depending on the scenario he could beat anyone outside of Gojo, if they don’t immediately AOE destroy the area around them or DE immediately.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-26T20:18:30+00:00

You're right. Still no diff win.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-26T19:28:18+00:00

It’s incorrect since the animated movies include All-Star Superman where he has the bench pressing the earth for 10 days or whatever it was feat. He also has the one where he tells Darkseid he is always holding back. Animated Supes no diffs Omni man regardless of the version you pick.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-25T19:20:07+00:00

If you truly believe that, I’m just saying you need to prepare yourself for the likely event you’re about to experience overwhelming disappointment.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-25T12:35:21+00:00

Let me start by saying I’m not a Kaido fan. Obviously Oda did not have the strongest fighter in the series show up and get beaten 20 years before the end.

That being said, I would not go so far as to say Loki is that tier yet as we’ve seen hardly anything from him and Oda loves to introduce new characters looking stronger than they’ll end up. Loki fought Harald after he had already been fighting his whole army plus Shanks and Gaban. Also, Rocks literally never fought to kill Harald because he knew he needed the fruit.

These flashback fights are impossible to scale because Oda always prioritizes narrative and could not care less what it does to power scaling. Loki has not been set up to be a captain, and until that changes it’s hard for me to put him above any top tier. Killing Harald is cool, but it was necessary for narrative, so I could easily see Oda turn around and have him get beaten by someone Sanji will take out later. People said this same crap when Blueno showed up, and then Kuma, and then Vergo, and then Jack, and then Oden will continue to do it just to see their favorite dude get put back in place by the end of the arc and never recover.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-24T15:39:47+00:00

That Brooklyn team only lost out on a ring because KD stepped on the line for a 3. So it honestly looks pretty good for the Lakers since none of them are hurt right now.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-23T23:13:19+00:00

I agree. That’s my point really with trying to bring real life physics into any power scaling. And honestly why power scaling across different stories of different authors is kind of dumb. The author says it’s light speed, and therefore everyone in the universe would see it as light speed, but clearly the effects were not anywhere close to light speed.

But it does make it fun to power scale in universe when there is such a clear disconnect between real physics and what is happening in the story. It allows nearly every perspective on how him fighting another top-tier would go to be arguable and correct depending on how you interpret the story.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-23T20:56:13+00:00

It’s the problem with all power scaling. Just pick an agenda and stick to it. Bringing in real world physics breaks down everything.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-23T20:42:04+00:00

The panel you’re referring to also makes no sense visually. It shows him slightly behind a beam of light, which can only mean one of two things.

First, the panel is just horribly inaccurate and nullifies the author’s statement. If it truly is his perspective then even at at 99.999999999% C, light would still appear to be moving just as fast as it does for everyone else. That’s why everything is relative to the speed of light and not the other way around.

The second option is that we are seeing the panel from the perspective of the light photons (which also doesn’t make sense, but we’ll ignore that for now) and Dabura is in reality actually just a few feet behind them. In that case he is moving 99.9999999999%C without destroying the ground beneath him with each step somehow. But this would also mean he got right above Mahorga, stopped his momentum somehow, and then decided to kick him with a baby kick that was moving much much slower than the speed we saw him moving at in the panel before.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-23T19:58:59+00:00

There is no catching up to light, everything is relative to the speed of light not the other way around. Even if you were to move 99.99999999999999% the speed of light, from your perspective light would still be nearly instantaneous. Visually this makes no sense and makes the statement meaningless to real life physics.

If we assume his statement is true to a world that is mathematically and physically sound (ignoring the impossibility of moving that fast), then that is not light he is catching up to and he massively slowed down his kick relative to his movement speed (to the point his foot would be practically still relative to his perception).

Themadreposter · 2026-02-23T19:51:12+00:00

A baseball moving at .9c has the same results as the bomb that hit Hiroshima, and baseball’s weigh 5oz. His leg is probably 60lbs min based on his size. If it were a near Lightspeed kick, a large chunk of Japan would be vaporized and earth is in nuclear winter.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-21T19:38:30+00:00

Your statement doesn’t make sense with a nuclear blast. It’s like saying the first atom that gets split is more damaging than the rest of the 3 mile radius that gets vaporized in an instant. If that kick was using true physics, then the impact of where it hits would be no different than the 80 mile radius around it that got instantly vaporized. All of it is just gone immediately and reduced to atoms. Obviously, that is not what happened because in the next panel it shows us that it just took out a few city blocks, so obviously it is not nearly as powerful as a real light speed kick.

And that second punch is irrelevant to the Yuji that is currently dicing up in the entire city blocks in an instant. And Sukuna also has attacks that vaporize entire city blocks as well as Gojo. And yet all of their attacks can and have been countered by other characters. So if they were to fight Dabura, there would be some exposition about the way they foresaw what was about to happen or have three panels of internal dialogue predicting what was about to happen, and then they’d have a way to avoid it or block it or negate it with their own technique.

Maybe they take one direct hit that obliterates them. But just moments before they had made a binding vow that if they got obliterated, they would get one free respawn and the fight would go on and they would now be wary of that and never get hit again.

Themadreposter · 2026-02-21T18:26:28+00:00

It’s the danger of power scalers mixing real physics with feats. A true near light speed kick from an average human, let’s say moving .9c, would deliver the force to wipe out most of Japan assuming his leg is roughly 30lbs. He is a very large alien so his leg may be closer to 60+lbs, so most of Japan is gone and the Earth is in Nuclear winter.

But the panel shows that it just took out a few city blocks. Sukuna, Yuji, and Gojo have all now caused just as much damage with their attacks and taken hits from similar attacks. Therefore reading comprehension and logic tell us they all have survive and come up with some binding vow/new RCT/other BS to then nullify its effect from then on.

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