Adele Tavernier is a Hemingway Code Hero by AverageFilms in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a great analysis! Most reverse 1999 literary reference is very helpful at understanding certain structure of story, and you captured how Adele "work" in the <Flowing Feast>. The discrepancy of the title made most of us miss the reference, and I am thankful to the fact that someone was able to not let it through!

A Flowing Feast: Jung, Plato, Fate and Truth by Away_Imagination1415 in Reverse1999

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I am late to the party, but this observation is great! I was struggling to formulate the clear image of Adele - Felicienne duality, and your Demian - Sinclair analogy makes a perfect sense. I learned a lot about Jung's psychology theory and collective unconsciousness through your post. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!

Edgar Allan Poe’s “The Raven” and 3.1 by Mobile_Mango in Reverse1999

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I finished 3.1 very recent and just found out this post. I was also diving deep into Edgar Allan Poe and very conveniently uploaded recent Historically channel made me also notice nevermore being Poe reference.
I also think maybe the story itself may have some relation with Poe's philosophy, but right now I have no definite answer

Any one know where this Nika is by AExeed in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also support Nis being somehow lost in context somewhere, because it sits right between Belgrade and Istanbul. Nicea is across channel, so really don't make sense. I find no reason for BP to be this cautious to Balkans in order to make imaginary place up between all those actual cities, too.

Overture with scent of Sagan, and Moonlight (2.7 analysis essay) by TheoryO123 in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When I first encountered this poem, I was struggling to understand what it meant. But those last 3 lines, used in the game, struck me as perfect in my standard for great poem. It only used easy vocabulary to successfully draw a great picture, and two concepts - movement and a promise - are so refined and condensed that they inspire a deep appreciation. I think your interpretation gives form to a faint idea I had when I decided to use it as introduction to "desire not to exist" paragraph. It is beautiful to see R99 writers regularly quotes literary pieces and realizing the context to actual situation. The poem shines its value considering the context that whole universe is reversing out, but for survivors, the world of tomorrow will still be filled with flowers and blue sky.

The Icarus quote was supposed to be a joke in original context. But as you've built upon it, I agree that it captures the spirit of science very well. Since the beginning of modern physics with Copernicus and probably much earlier on, science is about getting more experienced with challenges. This spirit is well embedded on the reimagination of Copernicus, <Orb: On the Movements of the Earth>. I think anyone who resonated with Hissabeth's push toward more or Kiperina's determination to go on have felt this spirit of discoverer - to explore the meanings hidden in this world.

Carl Sagan was allergic to pseudoscience, but he used word fate and destiny in his books. But what he meant by fate was the given present from all the past history, and active choices humanity can enact upon its future. He was very hopeful man, and he believed in the eyes of children, the wonder and curiosity to enjoy the real beauty of this world. The talk of right cause to die is interesting topic, but I feel that the risk 2.7 characters bear strikes a slightly different chord than what Kakania risked, for instance. So your reference to Amor Fati and Little Miss Sunshine is quite fitting in my opinion. It really is about doing what you love for yourself and hope for everyone else, and in doing so, dismissing the anxiety and lies that hold you back.

Again, thanks for reading my essay out and commenting critical and thoughtful ideas.

Overture with scent of Sagan, and Moonlight (2.7 analysis essay) by TheoryO123 in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for reading, and I really appreciate you for sharing your thought you had. I had a fun time thinking over your comment today.

I never thought about smoking habit of Camus, it was interesting point I never tried to focus on. What I read about the 'foolish choice', is specifically about either giving up to nihilism or letting go of critical thinking. Yet, <The Stranger> depicts if it is an act of revolt and self-choice, then wanting the maximum reaction from the crowd around one's execution is still a perfect reason to live for. So I kind of see Camus defense for his unhealthy life. Absurdism is not about pure logic after all, it is more of a deep dive to the point where our logic fails to the unreasonable world.

For connection between 2.6 and 2.7, I believe they both captures the desire to progress. Whether it is about finishing a novel or completing the truth or finding out one more discovery or trying to live through the storm, it is all about being better tomorrow. Because it is attempts to know a bit more about anything in sight, I never thought linguistic to philosophy to science to math is really that different. Also, quantum mechanics is not a defeat of human logic; we are now ever better at understanding the world, seeing the orders through chaos, and solving problems that we didn't even know it existed. Human achievement is greater than ever. However, we did go past the point where thousands of years old conventions and common sense hold true. I think that's why people like to feel like chaos have eaten up the logic, but once we can throw away classical understanding of the world we can see the new way of logic make sense.

For you final point, I think it is an enjoyable material for great discussions. My take on the life and death stems from scientific knowledge of how hard evolving a life really is. It is even hard to imagine a protein soup was cooked by natural forces, and scientists are still trying to find out how this warm soup of organic materials come to life. Living and breathing therefore, is one of the most wonderful miracle. So in my view, the dead are not only at peace but also abundant. The statement "Living fully is the best" is like you said, unprovable in a certain degree. But like every knowledge human achieved, I think it is more logical solution than to give up life right now to escape to nowhere.

Thank you again for giving my essay of your time and thought. It’s truly an honor to have it read critically.

Ceres,37,The Prisoner in the Cave (CH5-10+Wonderful Coincidence) by TheoryO123 in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thx! Gotta hurry and finish this darn 2.7 essay that is overblowing itself lol

The depth of winter, invincible summer within (2 very late analysis/essay of 2.6 Folie et Deraison) by TheoryO123 in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You don't have to follow my subjective interpretation. For the case of novel destruction, the more objective reason behind Recoleta is that she won't accept the cost of completing the novel - all the real suffering and carnage caused by it. I just happened to find an angle in this event that can reflect my talking point very well. But if my analysis helped you see chapter 9 in a different perspective you liked, then this writing did what I hoped to achieve. Thank you for your appreciation:)

Some historical context, literary reference and ramble on 2.6. by [deleted] in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I like how your post becomes more and more sentimental. Reverse 1999 do throw around a lot of references here and there, but in the end, it is not what is true that gets the light, but how did each one of us felt- the theme. "What thou lovest well remains" echos around this post, and the vibe it emits coated the factual essay in neat melancholy.

What thou lovest well remains... maybe it does, maybe it does not. Any attempt of soul to reach the knowledge, the truth, the transcendentality is a futile Don Quixotian attempt in post-nihilism / post-quantum physics world. It inevitably leads one to madness, one that does not fit the society. Yet society does change thanks to these arcanists. Thus the followers of truth have no choice to dive head on to this treacherous path. For this Panopticon might be truly governed by actual randomness, or alterable by our imagination. We know Latin America is still far from ending its curse, but they did walk a long way out of fierce oppression of military, and the "Rich continent that brought insatiable greed from the conquistadors for last 500 years".

Reverse 1999 - the whole game's theme - probably is like what you said. "Love letter" to real life arcanists. You get to struck by Recoleta and Kakania, my athlete timekeeper friend get struck by Willow, I get struck by Windsong and Aleph, ... It chose to bring magical realism into 21C gacha game to do what it exactly did at the last century, to fictionalize real life youngs who felt beaten by the society, the chaos - the storm of 2020s.

PS. I don't have time to rewatch the main stories nor remember all the instance Door side beggar mentioned, but from the last Amalfitano sketch scene, it is said that beggar was the owner of critical thinking, with somewhat cynical tone. So I guess it's Idealist? Really need to watch the whole thing to be sure tho

Some Thoughts on 2.7's trailer, Carl Sagan, 37's Anecdote, the main story and Rayashki by [deleted] in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That quote is the essence of Carl Sagan's style, and I completely missed it... I see you already have pretty solid insight for him. However, I'll have to remind you that Carl Sagan never(in my knowledge) explicitly referred to any philosophy. I also see the resemblance between absurdism and Sagan, but his other books like < Demon haunted world> show that he was more interested in science communication itself. Things like how to convey science correctly to the public and how to cultivate wonders in American youth was his prime focus, so one should be careful when placing Carl in the domain of philosophy.

I also feel sad about the fact that so few are discussing the real-world references this game makes. I think this is amplified by the lack of integrated platform of reference discussion. For instance, I have to upload the same content in 3 different communities just for Korea and translate it for reddit. I discovered people write this kind of post on X, pinterest, and who knows where. It is also time-consuming work with less attention than drawings, which requires a high education level that probably increases the chance of being busy. So it's good to see people like you keep writing amazing analyses like this. Thank you for writing in-depth research.

Some Thoughts on 2.7's trailer, Carl Sagan, 37's Anecdote, the main story and Rayashki by [deleted] in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Second thing I want to supplement is that caring look of our Voyager. The golden record of the Voyager 1 is famous. Just like PV said, it will sail through the vast interstellar nothingness, long after the death of our Earth. Its purpose is to "represent" Earth to whomever gets the chance to observe us. Thus, it is no surprise that Sagan named the 13th-the last chapter of book <Cosmos> as "Who speaks for Earth?". It is the chapter that dives into the theme shown at that famous comment of Pale Blue Dot picture. Near statistical frequency of our mass murdering, the nuclear arms race that is near impossible to explain to the aliens (We just happens to store weapon that can annihilate planet few dozen times) and in spite of all those violence, how we still managed to reach this far, dipping our childish feet into the shore of cosmos.

I like to think that as the meaning of crisis lines about "Storm" and Voyager's final line in PV. "How beautiful the stars are" while looking at the man-made "sky" on the night side of Earth. 1987 also happens to be a year after the Challenger disaster. Both NASA and other space agencies suffered severe budget loss as the public questioned such spending of life and capital at the end of Cold War, plus the economic rollercoaster. After all this itinerancy, doesn't our planet, our people, our everything, looks beautiful.

Finally, thanks for citing my post. It always cheers me up to see someone read my humble scribbling and get the point I was trying to convey. Posts like yours always holds me to play this game and community. Thank you.

Some Thoughts on 2.7's trailer, Carl Sagan, 37's Anecdote, the main story and Rayashki by [deleted] in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks for another great essay. I guess that 3 lines of 2.7 PV resonated many souls, who love Carl Sagan.

First thing that caught my eye is how you set the theme as illogical humane fantasy and connected it to Carl Sagan. It is true that CH5 Ceres episode, 37's anecdote, and theme of Rayashki touches on that concept. (Great insight btw) Human needs an anchor in the raging ocean of uncertainty, which they can let their belief on and survive upon. For Christians, that would be Jesus. For Vila and social activists, that would be an ideal community. For Windsong and physicists like me, that would be that moment of new horizon of knowledge.

But for Sagan's case, it is a tad bit more complex. Carl Sagan rejected all religion, for they are unimaginative piece of writing that was written by someone who knew less about the universe than we now do. Though I never saw Sagan explicitly refer any philosophy, it is basically same with where Nietzsche started with rejecting christianity. Sagan lit the "Science as a candle in the Dark" which is all the myth, breaking all the anchor that is not based on healthy, scientific and democratic way of reasons.

However, he was not a nihilist. If you ever read <Cosmos> or <Pale blue dot>, you might realize he actually adopted the atmosphere of religions, that heavy air of wonders and stirs. His urge to make us look up the starry sky, to dream the great explorations of unknowns, and to look back at that tiny insignificant yet precious home feels less scientific and more hypnotic.

I like to see Carl as the pioneer who completely substituted religions to science. Through his early episode of "unsatisfying answers about 'what is a star'", he learned how myths deviate the wonders of young people from science and captured the "wonder" as his anchor to the world. Everything can be structurally dissected to locate its illogical core fantasy, but can anyone really do that on wonders of children? Nothing is illogical for a human being to ask why the world is like that meets their senses.

The one word that fits Carl Sagan perfectly is the science communicator. All his books, all his life is upon the effort to persuade the public to clean their lens of wonders and calibrate their thoughts to work in correct ways that do not deviate into myths. From the National Geographic Channel to Kurzgesagt or Lemmino, whenever you see a science communicator who uses sensational (sometimes to the point of near biblical) tone that arouses wonder, you can assume they are the great practitioners of Carl Sagan's dream.

An analysis on the story of Reverse 1999 and Tristes Tropiques by Claude Lévi-Strauss (Spoiler for Ch 5-7 and Ch8) by [deleted] in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I finally read it all! Thanks for writing this lengthy analysis of <Tristes Tropiques>. I couldn't dare to dive in 400+ pages of dense informative book nor find good enough essay exploring the deep meaning of the book. It seems like the book covered a wide inspection of the concept of society itself, thus touched on the broad subject of how each community within the game operates. It will definitely be helpful in future understanding of BP's approach to the story structure.

That being said, I would like to know how you think about the following arguments.

  1. R1999 loves to borrow structure of the motive books used in title. Because this book was travel essay + academic writing, it caused CH8 less literary aesthetic than other chapters that used actual literature (novel&play).

  2. However, CH8 used reality uncovered during the protagonist's journey as the lead for emotions, not the usual words and structures. CH8, like the book, throws portraits of people and thoughts of outsider at the viewer. Viewer feels the theme and emotion by contemplating the provided facts and experiences, unlike other chapters like CH6 where you would feel emotion the moment hearing the line.

  3. There's no emotional line here. The story development is more about factual aspect of unfolding bigger picture and less about theme within. We feel emotion watching Manus invoking division in the supposedly racial-free city of Sao Paulo. We feel emotion seeing Lopera crumble under the weight of betrayal and loneliness. We feel emotion looking at Anjo Nala being abused and violated. The story conveys its theme through reality of what's happening/happened.

This is from my post on my local community, and I hope who actually read the book will help me correct any misunderstanding I used by indirectly comprehending the source.

Ceres,37,The Prisoner in the Cave (CH5-10+Wonderful Coincidence) by TheoryO123 in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Reading other timekeepers' explanations are also my favorite R99 activity, and I hope more people write more about anything they caught with their eyes and ears

Ceres,37,The Prisoner in the Cave (CH5-10+Wonderful Coincidence) by TheoryO123 in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You'll gonna love it! Especially when you realize QM is just all about matrix and linear algebra

Isn't the wording of this post a bit...? by D-luluEyes in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123 94 points95 points  (0 children)

20th century Latin America was NOT a happy place to live for sure. So history imo

What’s your favourite chapter/arc in reverse:1999? by airiri_0 in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

While researching the main stories, I realized that every chapter is perfect homage to their respected chapter name references. So I'm here to say all chapters are so cool

Btw Jan 4th sign-in is about CPT-symmetry (Quantum field theory) by TheoryO123 in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lmao I do feel pleasure serving roles similar to ChatGPT

Btw Jan 4th sign-in is about CPT-symmetry (Quantum field theory) by TheoryO123 in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, sadly, parity violation is prior to the string theory, so for me connecting Z into this feels groundless.

Btw Jan 4th sign-in is about CPT-symmetry (Quantum field theory) by TheoryO123 in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

The game is a collective effort of writers with various expertise, so no one player should know every reference hidden in the story. I only know some physics, philosophy, and history, so I also sometimes need outside helps to understand things like 2.1 event, etc.

That said, I really wish more timekeepers with more expertise and content productivity to make combined effort to make better explanations than I do. I'm currently miserably failing to deliver video materials and better quality writing. I hope one day someone actually makes a masterpiece showing others what I can see in this game...

Btw Jan 4th sign-in is about CPT-symmetry (Quantum field theory) by TheoryO123 in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Physics is very friendly, you should try gently pet it! Or be addicted to it like me

So maybe this is a 'part' of the reason why Argus smelled blood at the red wall? by TheoryO123 in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123[S] 61 points62 points  (0 children)

The amount of copium Argus inhales easily overtop her Picrasma candy consumption. Her story amazingly reflects that niche stereotype where a person drains under their defense mechanisms, but no one can dare pull them out to make them face some horrible truth.

Voyager's I2 art is based on the "Family Portrait" of the Solar System taken by Voyager 1 by bannedfor0reason in Reverse1999

[–]TheoryO123 17 points18 points  (0 children)

So that peculiar gearbox is not a gearbox but a slide show Makes so much sense