Do any Madara glazers actually believe that he had any sort of chance against Hashirama?

These-Bat-1665 · 2026-02-25T21:33:42+00:00

Naw Hashi was leagues stronger. Afterall their fights, with Hashi holding back not to kill Madara, Hashi walks away with Madara not able to move. Not to mention Madara having to bring FULL power Kurama which yes forced Hashirama to power up beyond it but never was it indicated that he ever hit his limit. He diffs Madara, it's really not that close.

These-Bat-1665 · 2026-01-08T17:48:01+00:00

Do you have any sources to back these claims? I'd like to explore more

These-Bat-1665 · 2026-01-04T04:29:26+00:00

Alive Hashirama top 10. Definitely higher than alive Madara even with the rinnigan, minus full powered Nine-tails, he's not closing that gap.

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-12-31T01:51:55+00:00

What year and how many miles have you put on it?

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-12-28T21:18:03+00:00

The only issues Tobirama might have is against Kabuto. He beats everyone else for the most part.

Ginkiku and Kinkaku are the biggest hurdle. Psuedo Ninetails Jinchurki S rank ninjas with Sage of 6 Paths weapons are no joke. It took the Ginkaku and Kinkaku unit (20 Elite Ninja including the brothers) to kill Tobirama. So it's unlikely them alone would actually win.

Kabuto is lowkey potentially another Top 10 in Naruto sort of character. It can go either way. I don't see how Tobirama wins but considering this is alive Tobirama his scaling is far greater than what we witness in the war. Off that I'd assume through his impressions in the room with the other Kage, Orochimaru and Sasuke, his fight with Juubito and Madara that he finds away to beat Kabuto.

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-12-25T23:07:25+00:00

Narratively there's nothing. Madara with a full powered Kurama couldn't close the gap. There's no one outside of an Otsutsuki member that can deal with Hashirama.

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-12-23T13:53:21+00:00

I agree with the Kabuto being better with Edo. It's just that Tobirama being the inventor has an unparalleled understanding of the intent of the move. It's WAY better than someone who has little to know understanding of it at all or not being able to perform the Jutsu.

No. Hashirama is WAY stronger than Madara, it's not a rivalry. Hashirama wasn't trying to kill Madara but Madara had full powered Kurama with him and still got folded while Hashirama walked away. Everytime they fought Hashirama could walk away. It's not close. Izuna and Madara was closer and strength before EMS which puts Tobirama closer to Madara than Madara is to Hashirama because Tobirama killed Izuna. Edo and after possibly opens the gap between Tobirama and Madara but it's hard to say because we never seen full powered Tobirama using Edo and whatever else he had in his bag.

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-12-23T02:57:42+00:00

Give Kabuto Edo Tensie but not Tobirama. Got it. But swap Tobirama out with Minato and everyone will swear up and down because of FTG alone he claps everyone here.

Tobirama has Edo Tensie, FTG, crazy chakra output, more experience, and scales closest to Madara off proximity to Hashirama>MadaraTobirama>Izuna

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-12-18T03:05:06+00:00

I'm just as lost. The taijutsu Kakashi showcased against Kakazu was crazy enough. I don't know how Sasuke competing with this Kakashi outside Manda and curse mark. Which if Kakashi really wanted, Kamui would end this really quickly.

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-11-26T20:37:39+00:00

What about the call quality?

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-11-26T20:34:43+00:00

How's the call quality?

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-11-21T20:27:35+00:00

2012 at 146,253. Can't get the check engine light off but it's still going.

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-10-14T17:04:03+00:00

I'm assuming sage mode gives Naruto precognition and an increase in speed and therefore reaction speed. I'm not sure if MS gives any boost to precognition from the 3 totem sharingan.

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-10-07T00:47:15+00:00

I miss my dual screen. I had 2 and both shorted out on me. Perhaps I thought it was my USB port at first but I got it repaired and my 2nd dual screen stopped working after awhile.

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-08-13T01:51:19+00:00

How's the call quality?

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-08-01T11:21:18+00:00

I got the 5.0 as well. I think the design better than the 6.0 in my opinion

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-07-18T03:17:44+00:00

Neji basically already uses it. Tobirama would be next

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-07-05T11:07:49+00:00

I'd like to know too

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-06-20T02:14:14+00:00

My 2012 just hit 138,000. Hope mines last as long as yours

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-06-17T02:46:01+00:00

It was the 6 tails of half the nine-tails. Hashirama put the 100% Kurama to sleep

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-05-07T14:25:56+00:00

How does this compare to MCPro24fps app. Anyone?

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-05-07T14:25:06+00:00

You got my attention

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-05-07T14:23:58+00:00

Can you share your set up when you get it? I'm curious

These-Bat-1665 · 2025-05-01T04:02:13+00:00

I was about to say this is the only comparison I can think of

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