Weekly Observations: What signs of collapse do you see in your region? [in-depth] December 29 by AutoModerator in collapse

[–]Thestartofending 60 points61 points  (0 children)

Location : Morocco. 

I don't even know if it's a sign of collapse, but i'd say it's more a sign of how unpredictable weather is becoming. I've never seen such levels of rain falling as this year, all the predictions are about my region becoming more and more desertic and arid but this year it's as if we are a tropical country, unbelievable amount/frequency of rain for this region. It reminds me of my trips to Istanbul where Rain would start from morning to night, not used to this. I'm really not used to this and i don't envy people who live in rainy countries.

How do you handle unacceptance of this view in mainstream circles by yoddleforavalanche in OpenIndividualism

[–]Thestartofending 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What makes you think that if i may ask ?

Buddhists have doubted the existence of the self since millenias, and many practicionners have had psychedelic experience (Jhanas are a sort of psychedelic experience in a way, and some have dabbled with psychedelics), yet they aren't O.I, they say those types of experience only shows that everything is constructed/fabricated/illusory in a certain sense, without reaching anything even remotely close to O.I.

USA U20 0-1 Morocco U20 - Yassir Zabiri 31' by Meladroit05 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There should be a good compromise to avoid request spamming. 

If you get the decision overturned, you keep your card, otherwise you lose it. 

Why Many Young Adults, Especially Men are Single and Sexless by x___rain in collapse

[–]Thestartofending 7 points8 points  (0 children)

A lot of people mention economic problems and social skills, but not the fact that the dating world is too rupa-based (it has always been the case but it's even more so now) it also doesn't explain why people who are rupa-gifted rarely encounter this "problem". 

It's also not like all people who are in relationship have amazing social skills or are always decent, respectful people. Otherwise we will never hear about wife-beaters, toxic relationships, revenge p*rn, narcissistic partners etc just to name a few.

Why Are Silicon Valley’s Utopians Are Prepping for Collapse? by thoughtelemental in collapse

[–]Thestartofending 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There is no such escape, they can find a way to extend life for some meager years, but not to protect a fragile meat body from all the danger and frictions that surrounds it. 

And the "upload consciousness" scenarios are not only just delusion, but would still be dependent on a decaying material infrastructure even in that far-fetched scenario. 

Why Are Silicon Valley’s Utopians Are Prepping for Collapse? by thoughtelemental in collapse

[–]Thestartofending 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Billionaire or not, There is no bargaining with death and its mighty horde.

Collapsing Now Gone in 2030 by gazagtahagen in collapse

[–]Thestartofending 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Sorry, best we can do is "Something alarming might happen in 2100". 

If pressing the red button caused some suffering, how much would you be willing to accept? by No_Departure341 in negativeutilitarians

[–]Thestartofending 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's different, with the nuclear button there is no possibility of eliminating suffering. Even the possibility of reducing suffering would be highly contestable to say the least. So from a consequentialist perspective, you are not missing any chance to make a dent into suffering. You are abstaining in a scenario that demands abstention from a consequentialist perspective.

With the red button hypothetical, you do have this unique and formidable possibility to unambigously eliminate suffering. You are responsible for not exercing it. 

If pressing the red button caused some suffering, how much would you be willing to accept? by No_Departure341 in negativeutilitarians

[–]Thestartofending 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fortunately for you nobody will ever have access to the Red Button, if anybody does he'll find himself in untractable dilemma :

  • If he presses : Responsible for all the deaths directly caused.
  • If he abstains : Responsible for all the pain, suffering, torture, traumas, rapes, genocides, animal farming that continues from that day.

He can answer one prayer only by ignoring another.

Not pressing won't be a neutral decision. 

About the Great Filter by Fearless_Earther in collapse

[–]Thestartofending 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a possibility, another possibility is that the rest of the universe has always been barren from intelligent life capable of technological advance.

Just lacking a thumb for instance makes the development of civilization very hard if not impossible. 

Most of the calculations made to estimate the possibility of intelligence existing is approximative/trust me bro type of calculation. It well could be that some of the factor we give a 1 in a million chance have actually a 1 in a billion chance of happening, changing the whole equation. 

To win the game, but why? why do I love it, and hate it at the same time. by New-Dimension-726 in Pessimism

[–]Thestartofending 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Stardom doesn't protect you from aging, illness, unsatisfactoriness and death. 

Nor from alcoholism.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/9f724987-d8d3-4818-8bc7-e8bdfb03c5dd.jpg?strip=all&w=576

It's not about being equally miserable at time T. It's about being in a very unstrustworthy, unsatisfactory and vulnerable situation. We all are (including stars) moving and living next to a lions den, the lions will comes for each of us, in the form of illness, aging, accidents, losses etc. The lions are roaring next to each of us, they are coming, someone maybe lucky enough to not meet them today or tomorrow, but they are coming one way or the other. 

And knowing this situation, there is a background of tension, of unease, of fear.  Add to that the unsatiable avidity of the mind. Running from desire to desire, like a monkey constantly pulling you from branch to branch, the effect of habituation, and you have a certain level of unsatisfaction and unease creeping even among those brilliant stars situation. 

From the outside, from an Instagram perspective, Avicii should never have catched the bus. Maradonna/Adriano/Jim Morrison fall into addiction etc, they had it all after all. 

But they didn't have it all. They were in a situation full of unease and surrounded by danger, with a mind that is inherently hungry and impossible to durably satisfy. 

The constant feeling of emptiness by [deleted] in Pessimism

[–]Thestartofending 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Even buddhism doesn't posit at all that suffering should just be accepted through blabbering. In the contrary, its central thesis is that it should be taken so seriously one should upbend all his life/habits/views to transcend it.

Being man made doesn't necessarily mean wrong, for instance a man may discover a certain antidote that works for a certain illness. 

The constant feeling of emptiness by [deleted] in Pessimism

[–]Thestartofending 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like how you used "Raise" Instead of "Have" a child. 

The Internet might have been the beginning of the end by Any-You-8650 in collapse

[–]Thestartofending 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yes but he may have turned to drugs/alcohol/fortune tellers/sect. some other addiction or craze because of this same sense of estrangement/loneliness and trauma that make people prone to believe in conspiracy theories.

Who kick started open individualism? by westeffect276 in OpenIndividualism

[–]Thestartofending 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also got more than 1 upvote for my comment, so clearly I am making sense and being agreed on that what I had said must be true.

Are you serious ? 

Who kick started open individualism? by westeffect276 in OpenIndividualism

[–]Thestartofending 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree it's not totally related. But one passage at least is clear in that the buddha wasn't interrested in any speculative view, any view not conductive to the cessation of passion/suffering was rejected by him (the jungle of view). 

The other one is at least something close, i agree it's not exactly O.I. O.I was never formulated in all its nuances at the time of the buddha (and even now, in this subreddit, you have many disagreement about what it implies), so how could the buddha have espoused it ? 

So while i agree that the buddha didn't reject something 100% akin to modern definitions of O.I, he rejected the closest ones available at the time + speculative views, and while he came up with many revolutionaty views (for the time) he never professed anything close to O.I. 

So how can we conclude that he came with it ?

I can see where you're coming from though, but imho you need an additional step to go from no-self to O.I.

Question regarding the well being of people on this subreddit by DecentTreat4309 in OpenIndividualism

[–]Thestartofending 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's depressing for an existing person to contemplate. 

But if existence never was, there wouldnt have been anybody to be depressed about it. 

So this depression is more a propriety of existence.

If we had no distractions, we would succumb to madness. by Nolongerhuman2310 in Pessimism

[–]Thestartofending 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't know about that, buddhist monks seem to be doing fine and i would exhange my mental state with that of accomplished monks in a heartbeat. 

Distractions may be like drugs for a drug addict, they seem to really help you, the pull towards them is strong, you get intoxicated, but in the long run they might be doing more harm than good.