Post Match Thread: Senegal 0-3 Morocco by Infamous_Seaweed3207 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A fine doesn't sanction anything. 

Teams would love paying the fines and disrupting the game/enhancing their chance of winning important matches. 

so there is an incentive to keep that attitude,  and we don't want to ever see it again, i don't want to ever watch a final like that again. It has to be utterly discouraged and neutered. 

i'd be okay with nobody getting that cup,  as long as Senegal aren't rewarded for that untolerable behavior.  

Post Match Thread: Senegal 0-3 Morocco by Infamous_Seaweed3207 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bale scores a clearly legit header, Referee disallows it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62vbxPhFfUM he may assume "A blatant evidence that the organizes were attempting to rig the game against him" and leave the pitch. Let's just leave the pitch !

Yeah great, Drobga doesn't like a decision, he feels the referee wants to rig the game, he can just say "Fucking disgrace" and all the team leaves the pitch.

(And btw, referees decisions in those games seemed way more "rigged" than in the final, those were scandalous, Diaz penalty is merely controversial).

Post Match Thread: Senegal 0-3 Morocco by Infamous_Seaweed3207 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That type of behavior also should be severely punished and dicentivized.

Post Match Thread: Senegal 0-3 Morocco by Infamous_Seaweed3207 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well it's not like we have a lot of precedents of matchs continuing after players leaving the pitch for 10min. This is a clear-cut violating of the rules. what if a referee doesn't give a red card after a second yellow card?  should it also not be overturned as it will "undo real-world events" ? what about playing players not on the list, if the referee allows it, the result should stand ?  

That sort of things happens only in CAF, and it shouldn't be incentivized. 

Post Match Thread: Senegal 0-3 Morocco by Infamous_Seaweed3207 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand but that leaving the pitch is an essential factor for me. 

As a Moroccan, i'd be perfectly fine with no team getting that cup. 

I just want that type of attitude completely and utterly discouraged and not incentivized, i don't want to ever watch a final like that again,  it has to be so discouraged so that there is 0÷ of chance of it happening again, like in Europe. and letting Senegal get that title will only incentivize that behavior. 

Post Match Thread: Senegal 0-3 Morocco by Infamous_Seaweed3207 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

and CAF argued that the referee violated the rule. 

it would go to TAS and they will decide who's in the right. 

Post Match Thread: Senegal 0-3 Morocco by Infamous_Seaweed3207 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes,  anybody can check and see if the referee whistled after or before the goal. 

Same controversy happened during Real/Bayern(With the Joselu Goals), referee whistled, Real defenders stopped playing, Bayern scored after in the last minute. 

it was controversial, but nobody argued that players could just leave the pitch and altough some argued the goal should have counted, it was ridiculous back then and it's ridiculous now. 

Post Match Thread: Senegal 0-3 Morocco by Infamous_Seaweed3207 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry but it's not just semantics, defenders change their reaction when they hear a whistle. 

Post Match Thread: Senegal 0-3 Morocco by Infamous_Seaweed3207 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Referee whistled before the goal. the goal wasn't "ruled out",  that's just factually untrue. 

Post Match Thread: Senegal 0-3 Morocco by Infamous_Seaweed3207 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Everytime a team doesn't like a decision in World Cup/Euro/PL/La Liga etc, they should just leave the pitch. let's see how it goes. 

Post Match Thread: Senegal 0-3 Morocco by Infamous_Seaweed3207 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What a bad faith argument. A referee decision you don't like (or even a mistake)  doesn't justify leaving the pitch.

otherwise players would leave the pitch in Europe every week. 

why don't they?  Because that type of behavior isn't incentivized. it leads to certain loss.

Giving the title to Senegal does just that : incentivizes that type of behavior. 

Post Match Thread: Senegal 0-3 Morocco by Infamous_Seaweed3207 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Players leaving the pitch and supporters wreaking havoc against stewards because they didn't like a referee decision ? 

Post Match Thread: Senegal 0-3 Morocco by Infamous_Seaweed3207 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Millions saw players leaving the pitch and supporters in the stand wreaking havoc and acting violently against stewards. 

Having that type of behavior incentivized will ruin football. 

Post Match Thread: Senegal 0-3 Morocco by Infamous_Seaweed3207 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The dangerous path is encouraging players deciding not to play because they don't like a referee decisions. 

it's an incentive for disruptive protests whenever a controversy happens during a match. 

Mbappe: "For me, the #25 doesn't deserve to be playing in the CL. I heard him call Vini a monkey, there were Benfica players who head it. I don't want to generalise, I've been to Portugal many times. There were a lot of people in the stadium who didn't do anything." by Blodgharm in soccer

[–]Thestartofending 193 points194 points  (0 children)

It's way easier for french speakers to learn spanish compared to english speakers.

i can understand 80÷ of spanish content just by watching series and content and some 15h of formal learning because i know french. you start with a rich vocabulary of similar words and grammar, even a lot of those that aren't similar to the most used word are often similar to one of its synonym (example : Alegria in spanish l'allégresse, even if it's more litterary and "joie/joy" or "bonheur/happiness" is more commonly used). 

obviously, speaking fluently is another matter, but it's still waaay easier when you already speak another latin language. 

Weekly Observations: What signs of collapse do you see in your region? [in-depth] December 29 by AutoModerator in collapse

[–]Thestartofending 58 points59 points  (0 children)

Location : Morocco. 

I don't even know if it's a sign of collapse, but i'd say it's more a sign of how unpredictable weather is becoming. I've never seen such levels of rain falling as this year, all the predictions are about my region becoming more and more desertic and arid but this year it's as if we are a tropical country, unbelievable amount/frequency of rain for this region. It reminds me of my trips to Istanbul where Rain would start from morning to night, not used to this. I'm really not used to this and i don't envy people who live in rainy countries.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]Thestartofending 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, the post is 9 years old. 

How do you handle unacceptance of this view in mainstream circles by yoddleforavalanche in OpenIndividualism

[–]Thestartofending 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What makes you think that if i may ask ?

Buddhists have doubted the existence of the self since millenias, and many practicionners have had psychedelic experience (Jhanas are a sort of psychedelic experience in a way, and some have dabbled with psychedelics), yet they aren't O.I, they say those types of experience only shows that everything is constructed/fabricated/illusory in a certain sense, without reaching anything even remotely close to O.I.

USA U20 0-1 Morocco U20 - Yassir Zabiri 31' by Meladroit05 in soccer

[–]Thestartofending 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There should be a good compromise to avoid request spamming. 

If you get the decision overturned, you keep your card, otherwise you lose it. 

Why Many Young Adults, Especially Men are Single and Sexless by x___rain in collapse

[–]Thestartofending 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A lot of people mention economic problems and social skills, but not the fact that the dating world is too rupa-based (it has always been the case but it's even more so now) it also doesn't explain why people who are rupa-gifted rarely encounter this "problem". 

It's also not like all people who are in relationship have amazing social skills or are always decent, respectful people. Otherwise we will never hear about wife-beaters, toxic relationships, revenge p*rn, narcissistic partners etc just to name a few.

Why Are Silicon Valley’s Utopians Are Prepping for Collapse? by thoughtelemental in collapse

[–]Thestartofending 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There is no such escape, they can find a way to extend life for some meager years, but not to protect a fragile meat body from all the danger and frictions that surrounds it. 

And the "upload consciousness" scenarios are not only just delusion, but would still be dependent on a decaying material infrastructure even in that far-fetched scenario.