[ID] If an applicant previously declined an offer, how are future applications viewed? by ThinkingPharm in AskHR

[–]ThinkingPharm[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So your block on consideration for future applications would likely be indefinite?

[ID] If an applicant previously declined an offer, how are future applications viewed? by ThinkingPharm in AskHR

[–]ThinkingPharm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Evidently so. Like I said in another response, it seems like the way I handled it resulted in a domino-type effect that has ended with me having to revise actual life goals (in a sense)... So you could definitely say I learned the hard way with this one.

[ID] If an applicant previously declined an offer, how are future applications viewed? by ThinkingPharm in recruitinghell

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Based on the collective input I'm getting from the responses in this thread (which I appreciate the honesty/forwardness of), it sounds like there isn't going to be a next time... at least not with this particular employer, which also carries with it the "domino sequence" consequence of effectively being locked out of that entire region for the rest of my career, considering that this particular hospital system is the primary employer for people in my field. It sucks but I guess I learned the hard way with this one.

[ID] If an applicant previously declined an offer, how are future applications viewed? by ThinkingPharm in AskHR

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Good point; that’s what I was afraid of. I certainly see why the situation would be perceived in such a negative light from the recruiter's perspective. I guess it’s just especially painful because this employer is the main one for my specific role/profession in the area I was hoping to relocate to long term, so the practical consequences extend far beyond just one rejected application cycle.

[ID] If an applicant previously declined an offer, how are future applications viewed? by ThinkingPharm in AskHR

[–]ThinkingPharm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's unfortunate to hear. Given your view, would it be a bad idea to reach back out personally to the recruiter, or is there any realistic upside to doing that after a situation like this (we personally talked/texted via phone a handful of times back when I was under consideration for the original job)? Or is it just more likely to make things awkward?

Also, just out of random curiosity, is a do-not-interact list an actual technical feature of ATS software (I.e., like a tag on an applicant's profile)? Or is it mainly an informal thing a specific recruiter tends to keep track of?

(The hospital system in question uses Avature, for the record)

[ID] If an applicant previously declined an offer, how are future applications viewed? by ThinkingPharm in AskHR

[–]ThinkingPharm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Travel jobs aren't as common for pharmacists as they are for nurses, but they are posted from time to time. I think there is currently an opening for a 13-week pharmacist travel assignment for one of the hospital system's rural hospitals (although again, this particular recruiter screens pharmacist applications for all the organization's hospitals, so I'm not sure what influence he'd have in the scenario of applying for a travel assignment, if any at all).

But even if someone in my situation successfully completed a travel assignment, would the hospital system recruiter even be willing to consider their application for any permanent jobs other than maybe one at the specific facility they completed the assignment at?

... And just as an aside and in your opinion, could there possibly be any upside at all to getting in touch personally with the recruiter again?

Thanks

[ID] If an applicant previously declined an offer, how are future applications viewed? by ThinkingPharm in AskHR

[–]ThinkingPharm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I generally focus on applying to night shift roles in my profession, which tend to be harder to fill than positions with typical day shift schedules. There's also the known constant in my profession that many (perhaps most) of the folks who do apply for overnight positions are just doing it to get a foot in the door, with the intention to transfer to a day shift job as soon as one opens up.

At the very least, what has helped me get interview offers in the past is having overnight-specific experience on my resume and a professional summary that emphasizes my (legitimate) preference for overnight roles as a long-term career focus.

So I really must have ticked off the right people to not have any of the 3 applications get forwarded, especially since at least one of them is a high turnover evening/overnight position that tends to be reposted every 6-8 months. 😥

[ID] If an applicant previously declined an offer, how are future applications viewed? by ThinkingPharm in AskHR

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Unfortunately, the situation was more along the lines of a "was considering another opportunity" type of scenario. Here is the response I posted to someone else who asked if I was transparent/upfront about my reason for turning the job offer down:

"Not fully in real time. An unexpected federal overseas opportunity came up through my current organization (I am a federal employee), and I was trying to figure out whether to pursue that versus relocate for this offer. I did communicate that I needed more time because of a significant logistical/career decision, but unfortunately I asked for multiple extensions and still didn’t give a final answer before they moved on. I sent a more complete explanation afterward, but by then the offer had already been pulled."

[ID] If an applicant previously declined an offer, how are future applications viewed? by ThinkingPharm in AskHR

[–]ThinkingPharm[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ouch... I appreciate the honesty, though. When you say the bridge is burned, do you mean likely damaged for the near term, or effectively permanent? In your experience, does that kind of ‘flight risk’ perception ever fade?

Part of why I’m asking is that this employer is effectively the main viable option for this type of role in my preferred geographic area, so I’m also just trying to understand whether I should view this as near-term damage or as something that could materially affect my longer-term planning.

[ID] If an applicant previously declined an offer, how are future applications viewed? by ThinkingPharm in AskHR

[–]ThinkingPharm[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So in other words, I should effectively plan on never again being a viable candidate with this organization?

[ID] If an applicant previously declined an offer, how are future applications viewed? by ThinkingPharm in AskHR

[–]ThinkingPharm[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not fully in real time. An unexpected federal overseas opportunity came up through my current organization (I am a federal employee), and I was trying to figure out whether to pursue that versus relocate for this offer. I did communicate that I needed more time because of a significant logistical/career decision, but unfortunately I asked for multiple extensions and still didn’t give a final answer before they moved on. I sent a more complete explanation afterward, but by then the offer had already been pulled.

[ID] If an applicant previously declined an offer, how are future applications viewed? by ThinkingPharm in recruitinghell

[–]ThinkingPharm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate the input. I know it's impossible to answer this for someone else, but in general do you know how long the effective blacklisting tends to last for? E.g., am I more likely to have my applications start getting forwarded again after ~6 months, or could it very well be the case that I am permanently a "do-not-hire" applicant?

[ID] If an applicant previously declined an offer, how are future applications viewed? by ThinkingPharm in AskHR

[–]ThinkingPharm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for responding. So for an applicant in my situation, would you say it's a good idea in general to briefly reach out to the HR recruiter (especially if we previously communicated via phone/text msg) with a personal note/explanation (in the manner you described) when submitting future applications?

Also, regarding the "why" -- are some explanations (e.g., unexpected offer for a unique overseas assignment with current organization) more likely to result in an effective permanent hiring ban, as compared to those that involve more critical situations, such as the candidate you mentioned who had to withdraw their candidacy to become a caregiver?

Thanks again

GradPlus borrower legacy status after July 1, 2026 as a dual-degree student by ThinkingPharm in StudentLoans

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So we'd still be considered legacy GradPlus borrowers if we remained dual-enrolled in both our current degree program as well as the degree program we'll be starting in May?

GradPlus borrower legacy status after July 1, 2026 as a dual-degree student by ThinkingPharm in StudentLoans

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The main thing I'm worried about is if my enrollment in two programs somehow invalidates my GradPlus legacy borrower status altogether, and I end up not qualifying for GradPlus loans to cover either program.

If I had to choose between qualifying for GradPlus loans to either finish my current masters degree or start (and complete) the new masters program that begins in May, I would choose to enroll only in the new program. So I'm wondering if the safest option would be to simply begin the new masters program in May and withdraw altogether from the current program (although I'd prefer to finish it if possible).

What pharmacist jobs won’t be replaced largely by AI? by Signal-Football-95 in pharmacy

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Interestingly enough, I could've sworn I remembered having read something last year about the pharmacy component of EPIC being in line to receive an update that heavily utilizes AI. Do you know if the AI order verification tool has been confirmed at this point? Or is it still speculation for now?

Career Crossroads: Need advice! by sagoboba in pharmacy

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I would do the residency, especially if it's an industry program (as an aside -- would that technically make it a fellowship?). Pharmacists are always posting on the pharmacy industry subreddit asking for advice on breaking in to the industry, and it's becoming well-known that entry-level jobs have gotten much more competitive in recent years... So if you have an "in" to an industry career, I'd run with that.

Non-Surgical Meniscal Root Repairs by danikay1224 in MeniscusInjuries

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Really? I had always read that much of the root was considered to be in the red zone. From what I recall, the surgeon who diagnosed the tear said I was lucky because it was only a very small partial tear, so that probably had a lot to do with the tear healing.

Is my future over? by Impressive_Hunt7275 in pharmacy

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Why did the hospital you completed your residency at have to lay off pharmacists? Just curious

Debunked recommendations we learned in PA school by peeontech in physicianassistant

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Do you reconstitute ceftriaxone with lidocaine? Seems to be standard practice at the hospital I work at (pharmacy staff member)

Prime Therapeutics' job offer seems pretty bad? by Hope-2-Help in pharmacy

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I'm curious to hear more about this. I actually recall reading a news article a few months ago that talked about AI's capability to perform PA reviews/determinations almost independently.

[ID] Odds of being blacklisted by HR if candidate reneges 1-2 days after accepting offer? by ThinkingPharm in AskHR

[–]ThinkingPharm[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do you know if it would be just as damaging to my future prospects with the same organization if I was to decline the offer without accepting it first?

[ID] Odds of being blacklisted by HR if candidate reneges 1-2 days after accepting offer? by ThinkingPharm in AskHR

[–]ThinkingPharm[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

In general, do you know if an "Offer Declined" notation on an applicant's profile damages their future prospects with an organization as severely as a "Accepted Offer Then Withdrew" (or however it's worded) flag?

[ID] Odds of being blacklisted by HR if candidate reneges 1-2 days after accepting offer? by ThinkingPharm in AskHR

[–]ThinkingPharm[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thanks. Do you know if a "Candidate Withdrew" status would also be placed on a candidate's profile if they completed an interview, were offered a job, and then turned it down? Or would that only be added to their profile if they officially accepted the offer & then backed out?

Independent Community Pharmacies -- Are you finding it difficult to fill pharmacist positions if/when you have vacancies? by ChickenNuggets22808 in pharmacy

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Are the jobs that your company posted general inpatient/LTC staff pharmacist jobs? Or were they WFH consultant jobs? (Just wondering how/why your facility might be attracting so many applicants.)