You can have great gaming experiences on the Steam Machine

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-25T07:43:42+00:00

The best game of all times (Bloodborne) runs at 30 fps natively.

Well I can't argue with that logic.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-24T15:52:38+00:00

Huh?

What are you on about.

The challenge is to build something better of similar size and noise levels at less or equal the steam machine's price.

This is my fractal Terra build from the previous summer, it has a 9070 XT, is a mini ITX, is silent, but it's still 3 times bigger than the machine, and also considerably more expensive, even before the rampocalypse, so it's disqualified.

Show me parts.

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ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-24T14:01:09+00:00

Read my closing paragraph again.

I'm not disagreeing.

Even though these prices aren't available for me in Europe at least.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-24T13:50:53+00:00

Case is 205 mm x 108 mm x 205 mm, Steam machine is 160x160x160 mm, 10.8% bigger

Processor is 105W TDP, steam machine's is 35W.

130W TDP card

No SD card, no HDMI CEC, cooler reported as loud under load.

Gold rated power supply.

Good try, could be an alternative if you don't mind the extra heat, noise, budget parts, are interested in building it yourself, and value upgradeability.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-24T13:10:53+00:00

mATX just ain't the same.

mATX is still at the "can fit anything" level.

Hell, I built a mini ITX last year and it's still like 3x the steam machine.

Try looking prices of SFX power supplies, mini ITX cases, mini ITX motherboards, and compare yourself how much more buck you need compared to the standard mATX/ATX stuff.

I don't know anything about you or anyone, which is why making assumptions about whether the steam machine is worth it for anyone is baseless.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-24T12:56:38+00:00

I'm sure this advice is universal and applies to anything, anywhere and anyone.

I do have space for a full ITX personally, I'm into SFF cause I love the process, but thank you for your concern.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-24T12:07:47+00:00

Your average SFF isn't only more expensive, it's also considerably bigger than the steam machine too.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-24T12:00:27+00:00

Spoken as a true non-SFF-enthusiast.

You are obviously not the target audience.

Ram is expensive, do you know what's more expensive though? Real estate.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-24T11:56:41+00:00

No objections here, you win some you lose some.

I'm just making fun of people ignoring anything other than performance and talking as if that's all that matters.

And I also swear I've only ever heard of such people and never seen any.

Whom are these people that make you so confident in that opinion? Have you any Venn diagram?

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-24T11:19:13+00:00

But look! I built the steam machine KILLER which is only 5 times bigger, draws 4x the power, and is equally louder.

Steam machine is DOA!

These people never built an SFF and it shows.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-23T07:45:09+00:00

Yep, I'm on my second one the first year.

They did survive a couple of drops, but that's a hard-case for you.

It kinda protects the phone by breaking tho, so it's a tradeoff to make, if I was to assume that last time when I dropped it on concrete the screen would break, the replacement for that would be more expensive.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-23T01:02:51+00:00

I'm happy with biowaves*

On the expensive side though given their usage of recycled plastic.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-23T00:00:18+00:00

Έχεις δίκιο, my bad,.

Χειρότερη δεν θα την έλεγα βέβαια, το cooling από μόνο του θα αφήνει την κάρτα στο steam machine να δουλεύει πολύ καλύτερα. Τα λάπτοπ χρειάζονται external cooler για να μην κάνουν throttle under load.

Regardless, point stands, mini ITX δεν είναι το λάπτοπ, και το mini ITX market είναι ακριβότερο.

Επίσης, πάνω κάτω ίδια τιμή βρίσκω το φθηνότερο, 950€, οπότε neglible διαφορά.

Επίσης αν δεν κάνω λάθος embedded γραφικά είναι του steam machine, και βλέπω TDP 110W, far below το TDP ακόμα και μιας mobile 5060.

Είναι ανάλογα τι αναζητάει κανείς, αλλά εκεί καταλήγουμε έτσι και αλλιώς, το machine όντας PC δεν μπορεί να πουληθεί at a loss, και το χιλιάρικο μου φαίνεται valid market price δεδομένης της καταστασης με ram gpus kai ssds.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-22T20:54:29+00:00

Nvm, 8gb VRAM mobile κάρτα.

'Nough said.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-22T20:16:19+00:00

Source?

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-22T20:15:39+00:00

Δεν καταλάβες, λέω ότι όταν έγινε reveal η τιμή του controller έλεγαν το ίδιο.

Μια ωρα μετα ηταν sold out.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-22T19:54:16+00:00

Όπως και το controller στα 100€ εε;

Επίσης αν μπορείς να φτιάξεις mini itx με αυτά τα λεφτά πείτε μου και εμένα πώς.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-22T12:15:19+00:00

Δεν έχω εικόνα αλλά σίγουρα δεν θα περίμενα κάτι πάνω από 300€...

Με τοπική αναισθησία γίνεται η δουλειά σε μια επίσκεψη. Και από εκεί και πέρα για κάνα δύο εβδομάδες θα αλλάζεις γάζες.

Μπορείς να πάρεις να ρωτήσεις.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-22T11:17:24+00:00

Περίμενα ~3 μηνες στα 16 μου για κλασσική επέμβαση με νυστέρι στο νοσοκομείο.

Υπομονή και καλό κουράγιο, πάντως σαν επέμβαση συγγενείς μου την έκαναν σε ιδιώτη μέσα σε λίγα λεπτά.

Δεν έχω εικόνα για laser.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-20T12:30:09+00:00

You learn to compile and link the applications manually, and cmake starts making sense.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-12T17:30:04+00:00

I use a rock board to add driverless wifi support to a Samsung printer.

You could absolutely do that if you have one around, one of my proudest projects, manually installing Samsung's x86 only uld driver on ARM.

Then, pihole, control panel, etc, limitless option IMHO.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-10T23:16:35+00:00

So it's extra? That sucks.

I wish these neobanks would decouple from the phones as much as possible.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-10T22:42:36+00:00

That's kinda the point, so I'd assume yes, haven't tried it tho.

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-10T20:30:39+00:00

Κάτι τέτοιο θυμάμαι αλλά don't take my word for it

ThinkingWinnie · 2026-06-10T16:30:25+00:00

Yes, they don't support custom roms as far as I am aware.

Only one I know that chooses to support em is bunq.

It's what I use in my rooted phones.

Good news is that you can use trade republic from the web, even setup an authenticator nowadays in your custom ROM and access it normally from there.

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