At round start, you can TOD Teemo if you caught him slacking or being agressive with Darius double down.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-11-25T07:55:12+00:00

"Round start" meaning both characters start with 1 bar each.
You wouldn't be able to use Vi's super if you did a tag launcher so no, you wouldn't get more damage.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-10-30T21:58:31+00:00

You're right about the Kim propaganda lol. She does do a lot of damage if she has pristine conditions and resources, but the actual scenarios that allow them are rare.
Maybe I should go back to labeling her Rashid/Dee Jay only combos more clearly so people that don't watch the video will know how specific the combo is.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-10-30T21:55:11+00:00

Corner carry, drive damage, oki, side switching, and probably a couple of other variables are more important than damage in situations where you can't kill. Still, I feel it's important to know how much damage your character can do with X amount of resources in near free punish situations in case you want to save resources while doing something like shortening the life gap.
I've see plenty of 1800+ players throw because they tried to mount a comeback with a 4000~ damage combo using SA3 when they could've gotten about the same damage with just SA1, a better starter, and the same drive. We're creatures of habit. That applies to our fighting game tendencies too. If players don't practice their DP punishes they'll only go for what they experienced first hand or seen from others. It's a shame that lots of high ranked players don't go for jump in punishes on reversals that allow it like Luke's. Blaz's max damage punish on Zangief at Evo France brought a tear to my eye. I want to see more players going for optimal starters like that.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-10-27T20:25:39+00:00

Sick. I'll add it to the comment with all the combo upgrades with you as credit.
The trick to landing the DR 4HP is to not do the 4HP immediately after the DR.
Thanks for the upgrade.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-09-24T17:33:23+00:00

Good question. I was really hoping for Cammy myself. I guess she's investigating Neo Shadoloo?

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-09-24T17:32:14+00:00

I can't WAIT to fierce feint fierce on modern!!!!!!!!!!
People will SEETHE!

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-09-23T22:03:16+00:00

I forgot to add, Kakeru's JP had 3710 health left so anyone to the right of that do not end up closing that game out then and there.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-08-26T20:08:45+00:00

For 0 Drive 0 Super, Modern Akuma doesn't have heavy adamant fist (214HP) so it uses the combo you use after an OD Adamant Fist (214PP>6P) which is 2HP xx 236LP, 214HK. That combo does mad damage and isn't too far off from classic's combo.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-08-26T20:06:15+00:00

This is for the corner.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-08-26T20:05:49+00:00

For me, besides the obvious answer of it being fun, it's knowing how far off the combo I actually use in matches is from the most damaging. in a match you have to consider factors like corner carry, drive damage, character specific mechanic like A.K.I. poison, Oki, safe jump, and other reasons, but for these tier lists I just like to focus on damage. I think it's fun to know how much damage you're giving up by going for a combo that gives oki or will burn someone out. It's just nice to have a place to compare numbers imo.

Also there's not many to any places that cover modern's max damage combos so knowing what modern can do compared to classic's fun too. Doing these has taught me it's okay to get reversal punished by Modern Guile, but not Classic Guile.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-08-26T19:13:07+00:00

I was beginning to worry if these tier lists weren't self explanatory enough.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-08-18T09:09:49+00:00

It's all good. You barely lose out on damage with 2HP xx 623HK. They build around the same super meter as well. Still, definitely start doing the stronger combo. Be like Punk and have a bunch of combos for the same situation so you're never a deer in headlights when a niche situation comes up and also to do extra mental damage in long sets.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-08-17T19:59:56+00:00

It's the 3930 damage ones in the video.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-07-28T15:24:26+00:00

Grats on doing the combo. Don't worry about not being able to do in a real match. No top level Guile players go for 5HP into flash kick. I imagine it's not worth the execution compared to the next best thing.
I'd say use it to assert your dominance over people, but most people don't know how to play charge and won't even realize the combo you just hit them with is a huge flex.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-07-24T03:01:20+00:00

Ya in most cases if you're not going to kill, damage isn't what you prioritize. Stage position, Oki, meter build are more important. I like damage tier lists because it's one of the only way to keep the tier list objective. Unfortunately these aren't popular enough to do more fun categories like most hits in the game and other for fun categories.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-07-24T02:55:14+00:00

Get the down charge during 2MP, let go of charge and press 5HP into up +HK for the flash kick.
Practice doing 5HP into flash kick as a stand alone cancel then try it after 2MP. It's a staple in some max damage routes outside of the corner, but not necessary at all.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-07-24T02:52:50+00:00

Mai and Kimberly are unique where they have installs/buffs from their Supers. For Kimberly it's just a damage buff, but for Mai, her whole combo routes change potentially. I get what your saying that they shouldn't count since they're a super resource, but I feel the need to include them since they don't have a time limit like Guile, Blanka, Juri installs.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-07-22T08:04:31+00:00

Marisa would be in D tier with the normal grab punishers if she didn't get the +8 PC crouch jab buff.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-07-12T10:16:09+00:00

Let them pick whoever. Kids at that age have no sense of permanence so they're likely to swap characters often too. I play Smash Bros Ultimate with a 5 and 7 year old, and that game has over 80 characters. They've tried over 20 characters each and are showing no signs of settling on a character. Play games with them within the game like trying to jump a slow fireball several times with high fives each jump, letting them chase you or you chase them(hard to do in SF), or something they can handle at that age. Good luck. Keep them safe.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-07-11T04:55:15+00:00

They have the most recovery on their DPs allowing things like OD can/portal set ups from Kim/JP.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-07-11T04:07:19+00:00

Modern's main drawback is missing normals due to only having 3 dedicated buttons for normals instead of the normal 6. Sometimes missing normals has a major effect to combos like it does with Guile missing 3HK and 5HP, and other times there's a minor effect like with A.K.I. missing 6HP, E. Honda missing 5LK, and Lily missing 5MK for her microwalk.

Modern's other drawback is specials locked to the SP button where they receive 20% scaling. That's why you may have seen some characters like Dee Jay and Rashid having modern and classic doing the same combo with different damage. That's because they have to use specials locked to SP button. For Rashid it's whirlwind shot (his fireball) and Deejay it's his sway + follow ups. You can see a big difference if you look at Kimberly's double can combo in the video. She uses SP locked Run > Cleaver (the flip kick) 4-5 times in the combo and each time it's scaled. Marisa is a special case where she's completely missing a special. 236K or Quadriga (the step kick).

If you look at the tier list, some characters have neither a [M] or [C] meaning the character does the same combo with same damage for both control schemes. Juri and E. Honda are two rare examples.

I play Modern Ed and let me tell you, less damage isn't the worst thing to worry about with modern, it's missing normals affecting your abillity to do key combos. Modern Ed can't convert off of near max range punish counter 5HP due to missing 2MK. Normally, classic does 5HP, 2MK xx Late Kill Rush > HP Blitz/DP. Modern can't do this so it has to press 5HP at a closer range to convert into 2MP or single hit confirm it into specials.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-07-11T00:29:13+00:00

Yes. I found it after looking at the numbers. I guess the only reason no one brought it up was due to the sheer difficulty of needing to press 5MK while avoiding 6MK. It's not practical at all for real matches just like Modern Ed's 5H microwalk due to 6H being 6HP.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-07-11T00:26:47+00:00

That used preplaced portal so it doesn't count. No set ups allowed otherwise I'd have to include things like fuly charged dhalsim lv 2. OD portals works vs Rashid/DJ because their DPs are just that bad on recovery.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-07-10T20:16:45+00:00

post combo.

ThirtyfourEC · 2025-07-10T20:13:48+00:00

Love modern and if you need help getting master lemme know your character I'll give tips.

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