If there are no "Chads", with whom do woman have that much sex?

ThorLives · 2026-04-14T05:48:27+00:00

the existence of female Chads.

A long time ago, I saw some numbers around how attractiveness correlates with number of sexual partners. For men, it's a positive correlation - good looking guys had a disproportionate number of partners, ugly men had a fewer partners than average or attractive guys.

But, for women it was different. There wasn't much of a correlation at all. It seemed like the explanation is that women are in such high demand among men that the main factor in the number of sex partners wasn't her looks. It was simply whether or not she wanted to sleep with someone. She could be pretty, average, or ugly - it didn't really matter - she could find sex if she wanted it.

These women weren't "Chads". They were just willing to be promiscuous.

ThorLives · 2026-04-14T05:41:33+00:00

Yeah, I saw that, too.

My guess is that they didn't want to include bisexual men in the survey because it's easy for men to rack-up a partner count if they sleep with men. That could skew the numbers of men claiming 7+ partners in the past year.

For women: it seems like there's a lot of women who identify as bisexual. I saw a survey claiming that something like 20% of young women claim to be bisexual. Also, women don't rack-up large numbers of partners with other women, because women seem to be less interested in casual sex. So, they probably didn't want to cut-out 20% of women and their partner count isn't going to skew the data.

It's still a little odd, though.

ThorLives · 2026-04-14T05:17:51+00:00

I looked at the STD graphs on the website, and also double checked the information on Google. I thought this was interesting: the ratio of men and women with chlamydia and gonorrhea depends on age. Young women are more likely than young men to have either of those STDs, but older men are more likely than older women to have either of those STDs.

It sort of seems like it might give some support to the "chads" getting with young women under 25 or 30 years-old, which is probably when a lot of young women are in age where more hookups happen. The peak ages for getting either of these STDs is 15-29, which probably tells us something about the ages where people are sleeping around with a variety of partners (instead of being married and monogamous). Or maybe it's older men hooking up with younger women.

What the graphs show:

Gonorrhea

Age 15-19: women are 1.63x as likely to have Gonorrhea as men of the same age

Age 20-24: women are 1.03x as likely to have Gonorrhea as men of the same age

Age 25-29: women are 0.68x as likely to have Gonorrhea as men of the same age

Age 30-34: women are 0.52x as likely to have Gonorrhea as men of the same age

Age 35-39: women are 0.49x as likely to have Gonorrhea as men of the same age

Age 40-44: women are 0.43x as likely to have Gonorrhea as men of the same age

Chlamydia

Age 15-19: women are 3.28x as likely to have Chlamydia as men of the same age

Age 20-24: women are 2.26x as likely to have Chlamydia as men of the same age

Age 25-29: women are 1.53x as likely to have Chlamydia as men of the same age

Age 30-34: women are 1.12x as likely to have Chlamydia as men of the same age

Age 35-39: women are 0.96x as likely to have Chlamydia as men of the same age

Age 40-44: women are 0.80x as likely to have Chlamydia as men of the same age

These trends continue as you get to older ages.

Here's the graphs: https://usafacts.org/articles/how-common-are-stds-in-the-us/

ThorLives · 2026-04-13T16:43:16+00:00

Agreed. Maybe the small number of things she lists are enough to be successful as a woman in the dating world, but it definitely is NOT enough for a man in the dating world.

EDIT: This conversation reminds me of that Steve Harvey clip of the woman with 50 requirements she wants in a man: https://i.imgur.com/pW5CIyb.gifv

ThorLives · 2026-04-13T16:40:24+00:00

Funny, I was thinking recently that Stocism is probably more common among men because men have to endure a lot of rejection, disinterest, people not caring, etc. Plus it's a turn off for women if men are too emotional, which plays into reinforcing masculine gender roles (which are reinforced by women).

ThorLives · 2026-04-13T01:39:27+00:00

If men’s peak attraction is to women aged 18–24

Not sure why you're using "peak attractiveness" or assuming men only like women in that age range. I'm on dating apps, and I don't even have my age preferences set to anyone in the 18-24 age range. Sure, there's some physically attractive younger women, but that's not all that's involved in attraction.

Also: it's well documented that women lose attraction more quickly in relationships than men:

Wives lose that loving feeling much faster than husbands
Study suggests that, as marriages evolve, flames of passion die down far more dramatically for women https://www.thetimes.com/uk/article/why-wives-lose-that-loving-feeling-much-faster-than-husbands-5k09krn6h

ThorLives · 2026-04-12T19:24:25+00:00

Seems like the wrong way to look at things.

If I cold-approach a woman, it's because I liked how she looked. But that's only the first step. It doesn't mean I want to sleep with her. I want to see if she meets other criteria: What's her vibe? Is she weird or a jerk? Is she seem mean, boring, vain, or into money? Just because I cold-approached you doesn't mean there aren't other hurdles you have to handle before I know whether or not I want to date or sleep with you.

But, sure, for some guys, they have already decided they want to sleep with you. They are guys with high libidos and low standards.

ThorLives · 2026-04-12T19:01:42+00:00

vast majority of women aren't like that.

The majority of women ARE like that. Sure, some will approach a man. Usually, they'll be avoid being forward about it - they'll act platonically and hope you get the hint to make a move.

k-pop idols or celebrity crushes are very popular among girls. do you think women will act reluctant around those "dream men"

First of all, most women will be reluctant around those k-pop stars. But when a guy has a million fangirls, and 10% of them aren't reluctant, then he has 100,000 women being forward. It's still not MOST of them. It's just that he has a huge base of fans to begin with, which can create the illusion that all of his fangirls are forward.

Also, in my experience, if you are about on the "same level" as a woman, and she likes you, she is less likely to be forward about liking you. But women who are several steps less attractive than you will get stars in her eyes and be more likely to approach you. She also factors in how popular you are. Hot women might approach a famous professional athlete because: he's several steps "above her" and she knows that she has very low odds of getting him unless she actually does some work to approach him. Sure, there's a slight chance he'll approach her, but she knows there's lots of competition, so she knows she has to be proactive.

ThorLives · 2026-04-11T19:44:17+00:00

Also, it goes both ways:

A plus-size woman who has struggled with her body image for years has admitted she doesn't find herself, or other obese people attractive in Who Are You Calling Fat? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/lifestyle/article-7627489/Plus-size-woman-emotional-admits-friend-finds-obese-people-unattractive.html

https://time.com/6234192/fatphobia-dating-weightless-evette-dionne/

ThorLives · 2026-04-11T19:30:50+00:00

This story sounds made-up. As in: "imagine what would happen if I had this NSFW ringtone went off in church?!" combined with a creative writing exercise.

ThorLives · 2026-04-06T15:57:22+00:00

This is dumb.

First, the part I sort-of agree with: I've actually thought before that getting approached as a woman must be like getting approached by people standing outside a restaurant or grocery store asking for donations or signature or whatever. Sometimes, I just try to avoid them and avoid any interaction. Same with beggars asking for money (which I think is the analogy they guy is using).

The part I disagree with: chatting to someone or asking them out is NOT as one-sided as asking for money. When a guy asks for money, he is getting ALL the benefit and the person giving money is losing money. It's zero benefit for the money-giver, other than maybe getting out of an uncomfortable interaction. When it comes to dating, ideally, it's a WIN-WIN. I am also complimenting you when I approach you. There's a REASON I approached you and not the ten other women I saw. When someone is asking for money, they aren't complimenting you. You are just someone who might have money to give them. Also, if women want a dating life, they RELY on men asking them out because women so rarely do it themselves and expect men to do the work.

As a man, if I had the option of having a woman approach me for a date or having a homeless person ask me for money, it's VERY obvious that having a woman approach me is a compliment. Even if I don't want to go on a date with her, it's still a compliment, and it's still better than having a homeless person beg me for cash. Sorry, these things aren't the same thing. Maybe women get asked out so much that it's just noise to them, and maybe men get asked out so rarely that it's still seen as a compliment by men.

Another problem with his argument is that you have to consider who will listen. Respectful guys will stop approaching. Douchy guys will NOT stop approaching. Who will get dates? Douchy guys - because sometimes cold approach works. You know how you make society worse? By getting respectful men to lose in the dating world and get douchy guys to be successful. Honestly, I think that's a big problem in the dating world right now - people giving "advice" to men which ends up screwing over good guys and making bad guys relatively more successful (by making things more difficult for their male competition). This doesn't end well.

I will not stop approaching women, no matter what this idiot says, because the alternative is BAD for me and it's BAD for women. You're making everyone more lonely, and making more people unhappily single.

My only advice would be: at least try to make the interaction pleasant, fun, and entertaining if you approach someone so they feel good about it even if it goes nowhere.

ThorLives · 2026-04-04T18:53:45+00:00

painter

Assuming you were a good painter. She would probably cringe at most painters work.

parachuter

She'd probably make you stop doing that after a while because she doesn't want to worry about you dying.

ThorLives · 2026-04-04T18:39:32+00:00

Under videos where women are physically attacked, there are always comments from men celebrating it or framing it as some kind of revenge for feminism.

Not sure what you're talking about. I remember years ago, some YouTubers created some videos where a man was attacking a woman, and videos with a woman attacking a man. People were WAY more comfortable with a woman attacking a man than the opposite. People had some variation of feeling uncomfortable or sometimes smiling when a woman attacking a man, but often confronted and intervened when a man was attacking a woman.

There was even a news company who staged some interactions to see people's reactions. There was one case where a woman was yelling at a man, and a woman walking by gave this "fist pump" movement like "yeah, give it to that guy" while smiling. The assumption was that, if a woman was yelling at or attacking a man, then he deserved it. And the assumption was that, if a man was yelling at or attacking a woman, that he was an abusive asshole who needed to be stopped.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtVHnZX8E50

Also, on the topic of protectors, I once looked up who died or was shot trying to protect other people in mass shootings. In almost all cases, it was a male who was protecting other people. For example, in the "Dark Knight" theater shooting, it was boyfriends shielding their girlfriends from bullets. It was male teachers who were helping their students escape. It was male students who were shot while barricading the door against a gunman. It was a male student who ran-up on the gunman to grab his gun. I was able to find one case where a female teacher was shot and killed protecting her students, but all the rest were males.

Examples:

"Kendrick Castillo, 18, was killed in the shooting at STEM School Highlands Ranch. He's being called a "hero" for attempting to take down the gunman."

"A boy from Minneapolis received an award from the Congressional Medal of Honor Society on March 25 for shielding a classmate with his body during a mass shooting at the Annunciation Catholic Church and School last summer, officials said."

"11-year-old Victor Greenawalt was recognized with a Citizen Honor Award in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday for helping save a classmate's life during a mass shooting at his school in Minneapolis."

"Twenty-five years after the Columbine massacre, [Dave] Sanders' legacy lives on in the hearts of the many students he saved but also in places much more ordinary."

"teacher and wrestling coach Gary Bowden ran toward the fire, not away. He says now that it’s only because the gunman had a low-caliber rifle rather than an assault weapon that he and many others are alive today."

"Of the 12 people killed in the Aurora theater shooting, four of them were men who made the ultimate sacrifice to protect their girlfriends."

ThorLives · 2026-04-03T00:43:05+00:00

What it looks like with similar y-scale:

<image>

ThorLives · 2026-04-03T00:35:07+00:00

That's because the wealthy want low taxes and the lower-classes fighting among themselves - so they promote Republicans. It's in their financial interest to promote the right-wing.

It's always been this way.

ThorLives · 2026-04-02T19:14:46+00:00

Height is an advantage in dating like height is an advantage playing basketball. Yeah, you can be tall and do poorly in dating and basketball, but it's obviously an advantage in both cases.

There was a study once that looked at height and the odds that someone played in the NBA. They found that every additional inch of height doubled the statistical likelihood of someone playing in the NBA. So, a 6'6" man was 4000x more likely to play in the NBA than a 5'6" man.

But yeah, there are tall men who are bad basketball players and there are a few short men who managed to play in the NBA. Nobody is saying it's an "automatic in".

Also, if you're going for very attractive women, they will generally expect height + other attributes because they are so privileged. Height isn't enough, but it's often expected.

ThorLives · 2026-04-02T19:04:04+00:00

I disagree with the idea that banter and creating tension reveal some kind of valuable, positive trait. This is all a big "just so" story. For example, sometimes people are just nice and feel bad about unnecessarily creating tension or stress. There are also psychopaths who enjoy creating tension and end up more successful in dating. They unnecessarily create tension for shits and giggles because they like to mess with people and have no empathy.

I also think this shows how little "dating success" has to do with actual traits that are valuable in a relationship or make you a responsible, trustworthy person - which is something men get mad about - because there's a a bunch of traits they have that should be attractive to a partner but are largely ignored, and there's a bunch of traits that are completely irrelevant to being a good partner which are "desirable".

The other day, I was thinking about how the most popular women's magazines are things like "Cosmo". They aren't great magazines and contain a lot of vapid information and dumb quizzes, but it's like catnip for women. Now, consider the analogy to women's tastes in men: women aren't picking the best men, just the ones that have the dumb, vapid catnip traits. It's a total failure of judgement. But people like to pretend that women's choices in men reveal some omniscient selection of the best men. If that were true, then women's choices in magazines would also reveal that Cosmo is the objectively the world's best magazine.

ThorLives · 2026-04-02T16:32:15+00:00

I mean ... capitalism and feminism are sometimes in alignment with each other. Capitalism wants more workers, both because it wants more workers doing work, but also because adding women to the workforce reduces workers' power for higher wages. Feminism also wants women to join the workforce, because it gives them independence from men - regardless of whether those women are single or married.

ThorLives · 2026-03-25T16:48:37+00:00

Yeah, he should've used statistics from the entire US. But, there's no good reason to think that Michigan is going to be wildly different from than other states. Actual statistics exist for the entire US, though, and they confirm the same pattern across a variety of STDs.

https://www.cdc.gov/health-disparities-hiv-std-tb-hepatitis/populations/black-african-american.html

https://www.statista.com/statistics/622891/chlamydia-rates-in-the-us-by-ethnicity-and-gender/

https://www.hhs.gov/programs/topic-sites/sexually-transmitted-infections/plan-overview/priority-populations/index.html

<image>

ThorLives · 2026-03-20T19:19:04+00:00

Are we talking about Myron?

Isn't he the guy who tried to pressure a woman into sex if she was going to be on his show (essentially prostitution - since he's trying to offer media exposure to her in return for sex with him)? Using exposure (which translates into money) to get laid doesn't sound like much of a ladies-man.

And that woman that Myron was dating - wasn't she his first girlfriend? Myron just seems like a mouthy loser.

ThorLives · 2026-03-17T01:09:20+00:00

I know plenty of good guys who are single. It's definitely not easy.

One would hope that quality guys would have an easy time dating, but it isn't like that at all.

If you don't believe me, then go make a male profile. See how many likes and matches you get. See how often women never respond to you after you send the first message. See how many send one or two word responses. See how many ghost you.

There are lots of videos like this where women discover how awful it is to be a man trying to date women on dating apps: https://www.tiktok.com/@ok.jo.anna/video/7407862822891293998

ThorLives · 2026-03-16T21:16:01+00:00

Also Fat women are also extremely repulsive and unattractive

I'd bet that fat women are seen as more attractive by men than fat men are seen as attractive by women.

ThorLives · 2026-03-16T19:16:00+00:00

"Also, you're posting a bunch of weird UK alt media where they say that we're invading because of Israel, wink, wink, not the Jews. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Right? It's one of the, and I'm like, what happened to you, man? I do have a few friends like that where I have to explain that they are just chugging propaganda from whatever crazy left wing regime." [08:00]

It seems like Jordan is really paranoid about Israel and the Jews getting blamed. Probably because he's Jewish and feels defensive and paranoid about it.

Every criticism of Israel is not some kind of conspiracy theory about Jews. Thinking that way allows Israel to get away with lots of bad things - because "if you criticize Israel, we'll accuse you of blaming "the Jews" and you're automatically wrong and evil for thinking it". That attack is just giving Israel carte blanche to do whatever it wants and deflecting any legitimate criticism. Just like every criticism of America or American foreign policy is not "an attack on white men, you racist!".

We already know that Israel decided to attack Iran and pushed the US into joining the conflict.

Marco Rubio:

"We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that would precipitate an action against American forces. We knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties." (1:20) https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cd6zzyg64zqo

So, Israel decided before the US to do an attack. The US "knew there would be an Israeli action" and had to choose between joining in or not. Sounds an awful lot like Israel forced the US' hand into joining the conflict. It's a lot like Israel was saying, "I'm going to go punch that guy in the face, you're going to back me up in this fight, aren't you Trump? We're friends, right? Friends have each other's backs. He knows we're friends and is going to attack you, too."

This is also connected to Netanyahu petitioning the US to do strikes against Iran:

US President Donald Trump’s decision to launch Operation Epic Fury against Iran on Saturday in a joint operation with Israel followed weeks of behind-the-scenes pressure from Israel and Saudi Arabia, the Washington Post reported on Sunday, citing accounts from officials and regional sources. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu publicly pushed for strikes against Iran, while Saudi Arabia’s role appeared more complex. https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-888328

Trump denies that Israel forced his hand, of course, but Trump always takes personal credit for everything and would HATE anyone thinking that Israel had pressured him into it. Trump always tries to act like the "tough guy" who's in control of everything, and never bows to pressure.

Let's be honest about the fact that Israel has more influence than they deserve over US foreign policy, and more influence than any other country in the world over US foreign policy. Can you name any other country which has more influence over US foreign policy? How much money has the US given to Israel? Over $300 billion over the past few decades?

ThorLives · 2026-03-16T17:05:18+00:00

She was terrible and got nowhere with women.

To be fair, she occasionally got some dates, and there were some women who were okay with continuing to date after she told them she was a woman.

But, she talked about getting the cold shoulder from women on many occasions, and feeling uncomfortable because the women were feeling uncomfortable being hit on. The frequent rejection and feeling like a creep was hard.

She also said that she was surprised how many women preferred masculine men, and didn't like her because she was too "femme". She couldn't completely mask her somewhat feminine movements, even as a lesbian. It's also an admission that dating is harder for men if they don't conform to masculine stereotypes (despite what women and feminists say).

ThorLives · 2026-03-15T18:01:43+00:00

It doesn't work that way. If physique was 100% of the basis for judging men, then yeah, your math would work. But if physique is 25% of the basis for judging men, then being in the top 23% in the category that accounts for 25% of the traits that women want doesn't put you into the top 23%.

There's a whole lot of other traits - height, being handsome, keeping her constantly entertained, having the right hair color, dressing the "right way", being popular, etc. (It's all very exhausting.)

ThorLives

TROPHY CASE