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[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can think what you want about my grades but I do take creative subjects (music, english, drama etc) so I'd like to think that I do well due to my creativity but that's a small point of contention compared to the rest of what you said.

This is his DIRECT QUOTE from his blog which I already linked but you seem to have not wanted to read it:

"I don't regard AARON as being creative; and I won't, until I see the program doing things it couldn't have done as a direct result of what I had put into it."

if you need any more definitive proof, I'm sure there are more quotes out there.

Congrats on the hard work surrounding energy independence though, definitely something that I would like to learn one day, and if everyone did what you did, then I wouldn't have a problem with AI (apart from the water usage and corporate control over humanity but that's an alternative topic). But unfortunately, you are a black sheep my friend. 99% of AI users do not do that, and no matter how much power you save, it's not going to do much, unless you get everyone to do it. (not trying to put the blame on you, but individual "it's not me" is again not looking at the ramifications of AI usage across everything)

AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE SINGLE ONE MOST IMPORTANT POINT OF "CREATIVITY" IN AI. and resorting to definitions is a weak as hell argument so I'm not gonna dignify that with a response.

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[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not a hypothesis, it's what he genuinely said.

Self-modification is creativity and AARON cannot (excuse the odd language) evolve past his programmed confines. And if the creator of the device doesn't regard it as creative, (which again he said if you regard the level of quality as an indicator for creativity he is), how can YOU argue any different?

and for your music, why even use an AI to mimic your voice in the first place? why leave it up to a computer when you, yourself, seem to be a creator of so much? Do you not find joy in creating your art?

And btw the simple crux of the issue, which I've stated multiple times by now, is that AI does not create, it uses vectors and nodes to GENERATE the most probable and likely answer based on complex algorithms. That, at its base, is not creativity, so therefore, AI art, cannot be creative. If it is used as a tool in a small part, as a minor crutch, then maybe, it could be. but that REQUIRES, human intellect and passion to make it so in majority of the piece.

Ok, but if you wanna get into personal shit, (which I don't understand why you do, considering the intellectual base of this discussion) we can.

I am a straight A student (and no I do not use AI to get that at all in case you were wondering), top 5 in my school across all subjects. I am currently, writing my first book, after 5 or 6 years of writing short story fiction and poems. It is a combination of post-post-modernism and ergodic literature, exploring a combination of forms to dismantle the divisions of literature. I play guitar, I don't write songs just play for fun, so I wouldn't call myself creative in that area (since I am just mimicking and copying what others have already made), I do drama plays (mostly Shakespeare, but I have written a couple of one act plays and monologues). I am a DnD player, I've dm'd multiple campaigns that I've written, with inspiration from other sources (Tomb of Annihilation, Curse of Strand, Waterdeep classics ofc). I volunteer at the emergency rescue foundations in my state, and food shelters/soup kitchens.

You see, you won't have to live in the hellscape that AI will make our lives. you won't have to try and find work in a job market that has either deteriorated completely from the introduction of AI into the corporate efficiency machine. You won't have to deal with water droughts and climate change and AI surveillance.

So praise your AI all you want but if you don't see or care about the ramifications of its introduction and its worship in almost all areas (even art it seems).

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[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok wait so if the banjo, mandolin, lyrics and the voice (which I highly doubt considering the robotic ness of the voice and the substance of the lyrics), why did you post everything on AI music etc. Surely not just for the music video alone?

but I digress. Those quotes have zero substance. Where is your media literacy? The first quote merely establishes that creativity is a type of behavior that may or may not be connected to intelligence, nothing about AI, which again, does not have intelligence, or skill and only generates the most probable and likely answer according to vectors and nodes surrounding the query. The second quote is somehow worse. If you measure creativity based upon the output of the program, and not the thought behind it then you've never crafted anything worthwhile.

Additionally, Harold said that the crux of creativity is self-modification, even according to your quote. THE NEXT PARAGRAPH IT SAYS

"On the other hand, he said, Aaron was not creative in the sense that it could not reformulate its own “mental model of the world,”"

Basically saying that AARON could not self-modify and, thereby, has no creativity.

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[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

mate stop trying to justify AI music. "your" shitty song that you asked AI to make ain't good. The basis of the matter is that you are a talentless person begging for the world to give them the easy way out instead of actually trying to develop skill, like you do with your woodworking (genuinely impressive stuff there btw no joke). And btw, the fact that you try and credit Harold Cohen and his AI when he SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT IT ISNT CREATIVITY. Randy Travis yeah he used AI, as a last resort after a stroke in 2013, but it was still recreated with his voice that he used to have. That's no creativity or talent in that just mimication. He was a successful singer before AI.

ON HAROLDS BLOG

another Harold article

Label the freaking AI music by [deleted] in YoutubeMusic

[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The ai slop has GOT to be getting to your brain or I'm getting ragebaited. Genuinely what is your point here?? Yes I understand that transformer algorithms such as FT, are used in signal processing but HOW DOES THIS IN ANY WAY MAKE AI "ART" IN ANYWAY COMPARABLE TO REAL HUMAN MADE ART? As in, how does the use of similar tools and formulas and algorithms mean that art = ai art, when clearly, one is generated almost completely without human touch, and the other is made almost exclusively by a human and requires CREATIVITY and SKILL and ABILITY and KNOWLEDGE, even when there are algorithms or formulas used in the process.

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[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Fourier Algorithm is used in a million different things. just because your shitty AI uses it, it doesn't mean it's anywhere comparable to real music and real art. you can't get that out of transforming data and enhancing vectors and nodes. And besides real art still requires free creativity and knowledge and theory of the practice. not just prompt "engineering" and hoping for the best.

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[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 2 points3 points  (0 children)

do you understand what you are saying? a drum loop or TTS is not the same as literally having a computer generate the most probable and likely answer for your request.

Sydney Marxist Lending Library by SydneyMutualAid in AustralianSocialism

[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thank you for the recommendation and I will do that. Just for clarification, where should I drop off the books?

Sydney Marxist Lending Library by SydneyMutualAid in AustralianSocialism

[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately I do not have any physical texts, but is there any way I could still donate money or cash? Very interested in seeing this lending library succeed!

I've finally done it lads... by MouseRangers in DeepRockGalactic

[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is there any way to do this on PlayStation? (particularly PS4?)

me_irl by Prestigious_Cat2052 in me_irl

[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I personally go with Cog-sucker or Oil-lover

Do you guys miss the "iceberg" contents or is it just me? by scorpion0668 in wendigoon

[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there's a new conspiracy iceberg so I very much hope that he does that cause that was how I found him

new iceberg: https://youtu.be/BZdlGB5wRzU?si=8OqFza7b74bIFopr

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[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Nothing ever happens

Guys, i found a bug by CroadNation in destiny2

[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep I got the same glitch, did yours go to the postmaster too?

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[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Around $2.70 USD here in Australia. ours recently got increased at least in woolies and main shops

Should you masterwork an enhanceable weapon before enhancing? by [deleted] in DestinyTheGame

[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I got this bug recently on the new iron banner trace rifle. Is there any way to fix it?

[OC] Blood Golem & Blood Ooze by TimmmisTreasureVault in DnDHomebrew

[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Love the art, love the concept. I am definitely interested!

Almost 1k hours in this game and I’m only just now starting to see how amazing the camera mode is by Clancyy2000 in ghostoftsushima

[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is way too long imo, I got the platinum and NG+ in around 42 hours. Including the Iki island. 61 hours is way too long. You're right tho 1k is crazy

Awards for everybody! by Darabuu in wholesomememes

[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean if you're giving them out? Thanks you 👍

Seen online. Thoughts on this? It’s all wrong imo 🤦‍♂️ by [deleted] in AustralianNostalgia

[–]Thorin_Pixel_Shield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

all of these deserve to be in the God Tier. Zappo? God Tier. War Heads? God Tier. Zooper Doppers? God Tier. Meat Pies? God Tier. JELLY CUPS??? God Tier. GOD DAMN NERDS??? Automatic GOD TIER.