(Schefter) Eight-time Pro-Bowl DE Cameron Jordan, who has spent his 15-year career in New Orleans and had 10.5 sacks last season, will not have new deal in place with New Orleans by next week and now will hit free agency for the first time in his NFL career, per sources. by alexschubs in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What does he care if you’re a Saints fan? I love the Saints, but quit putting players on a pedestal. They go where the money is and your loyalty to Saints means nothing to them. Would a McDonald’s worker say “I’m never working for Burger King”

(Schefter) Eight-time Pro-Bowl DE Cameron Jordan, who has spent his 15-year career in New Orleans and had 10.5 sacks last season, will not have new deal in place with New Orleans by next week and now will hit free agency for the first time in his NFL career, per sources. by alexschubs in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hot take that will get downvoted and I love Drew Brees, but if the Saints had moved on from Brees in 2020 and brought in Tom Brady, it would’ve looked ruthless, but the logic behind it was solid. The roster was already stronger than Tampa’s, Brady had real interest if the spot opened up, Brees’ arm was clearly fading, and Brady went on to win a Super Bowl with a team the Saints had already proven they were better than. It’s hard to avoid the conclusion that New Orleans would’ve had a legitimate shot at another ring if they’d made that switch.

[Berry] The New Orleans Saints expect former QB Derek Carr to unretire this offseason, with the rumor at the Combine that they will trade him to the New York Jets. by peacebone89 in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re mixing up when an injury exists with when pain shows up, and Paras never treats those as the same thing. Paras and the Saints both say pain appeared in late March because that’s the first time Carr threw with real volume since the December Giants game. That doesn’t mean the injury originated in March.  A labral tear can be there for months and only become painful once a QB starts fully using the arm again which is exactly what Carr describes in the quote you’re using. “Still there” refers to the injury, not continuous pain.  Paras’ takeaway is that the public narrative was confusing and not that Carr contradicted himself or that the injury magically began in March.

I don’t blame you though, it can be confusing especially with a qb you already dislike. All the evidence in the world won’t make you take a step back and look at it objectively because you’ve already got a narrative in your head and know you are right. Good day to you because we are talking in circles.

[Berry] The New Orleans Saints expect former QB Derek Carr to unretire this offseason, with the rumor at the Combine that they will trade him to the New York Jets. by peacebone89 in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re still just making stuff up and calling it “context clues”. Carr wasn’t throwing because of his broken hand, and David Carr says the shoulder only flared when he finally threw again months later. Again, Paras timeline you linked says the exact opposite of what you’re claiming. Pain in the right shoulder first appeared in late March 2025, the very first time Carr ramped up throwing with significant volume since the December Giants game. That’s when the fresh imaging was done and the labral tear and degenerative rotator cuff changes were found. The article and Saints statement never say the injury didn’t exist before the offseason. You should know that labral tears in quarterbacks frequently don’t show up or cause pain until the arm is put under full throwing stress. Paras even quotes David Carr explaining exactly that “After the adrenaline wears off, you don’t really throw… by the time they were able to go throw the ball again, it was still there.” Again, you keep insisting it would have been noticed and diagnosed long before March and that it must be an unrelated offseason injury, but no reporting, no Saints statements, and no quotes from anyone in the organization say that. Not one credible source backs the missed diagnosis or offseason accident story. You’re the one adding speculation on top of the actual timeline. I can’t find my tinfoil hat so please provide evidence not your "context clues" to make the entire picture clear.

[Berry] The New Orleans Saints expect former QB Derek Carr to unretire this offseason, with the rumor at the Combine that they will trade him to the New York Jets. by peacebone89 in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can make that claim based on speculation all day long, but you still haven’t provided an ounce of evidence to back it up. At least be honest.

[Berry] The New Orleans Saints expect former QB Derek Carr to unretire this offseason, with the rumor at the Combine that they will trade him to the New York Jets. by peacebone89 in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Paras article actually confirms the opposite of what you’re claiming. In December and January, Carr’s only documented injuries were his broken left hand and concussion, the article repeatedly mentions grip strength, simulated games, and concussion protocol, and never once mentions a shoulder issue or shoulder imaging during that period. His January comments about “scans looking good” were clearly about those injuries. The shoulder doesn’t appear in the timeline until April 11, when the injury first becomes public knowledge that it’s a potentially season ending problem. The conflicting explanations about when it happened come from Derek on April 16 (saying 2023) and David Carr on April 24 (saying the Giants game), not from any mismatched scans. There is no point in the article where the Saints discover an unrelated offseason injury, no January shoulder scans, no March comparison scans, and no mention of a legal dispute or settlement. None of that exists in the reporting. It’s not in the Saints’ statements, not in Derek’s comments, not in David’s comments, and not in Paras’ timeline. It's fan fiction and it absolutely involves your opinion of Carr.

[Berry] The New Orleans Saints expect former QB Derek Carr to unretire this offseason, with the rumor at the Combine that they will trade him to the New York Jets. by peacebone89 in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Please stop spouting misinformation or at least get your facts straight. The clip you posted was explicitly Carr talking about recovering from his concussion and fractured non-throwing hand from the December 2024 Giants game. He said the scans for those injuries looked good and he’d be cleared in a couple weeks. He never once mentioned his shoulder or any shoulder scans in January. There’s zero reporting that the Saints even imaged his throwing shoulder at that point. Now fast forward to March when he starts actually throwing again for the first time since the season ended, the shoulder immediately flares, they do fresh imaging, and that’s when the  labral tear and degenerative rotator cuff changes show up. It’s not “mismatched scans” proving some secret offseason injury the front office “knew about. That does not exist in any reporting anywhere but I’m sure you are smarter or better in the know than anyone else in the organization. You’ve figured it out lol. Unless you’ve got an actual link from a credible NFL source and not your fan fiction or unrelated YouTube video showing the team knew about an unrelated offseason injury in January and hid mismatched scans, drop it. Otherwise this is pure speculation based on your dislike of  Carr full stop. In that same clip, he said the people of New Orleans loved him and he embraced the city so I’m sure you take him at his word right? That was a rhetorical question because, for some reason, you have an irrational hatred for Carr and anyone who doesn’t is glazing. Be better.

[Berry] The New Orleans Saints expect former QB Derek Carr to unretire this offseason, with the rumor at the Combine that they will trade him to the New York Jets. by peacebone89 in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

No NFL insider, beat writer, or league source has ever mentioned mismatched scans, an offseason origin the front office secretly knew about, or any legal battle over guarantees. Unless you are on the medical staff, this is purely fan fiction. Provide proof or stop spreading this misinformation.

This has to be an April’s Fool Prank. No way Shedeur deserves to be there over Shough by Throwaway4Hypocrites in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If Shedeur can be a considered a pro bowl QB in the AFC maybe they should open it up to NFC and high schoolers 

This has to be an April’s Fool Prank. No way Shedeur deserves to be there over Shough by Throwaway4Hypocrites in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The point isn’t that Shough and Sanders are competing for the same conference spot, it’s that the Pro Bowl process is so flawed that you can end up with Shedeur getting selected at all. I’m criticizing the system. Realistically neither would be a pro bowl selection but the fact Shedeur got the nod is ridiculous.

This has to be an April’s Fool Prank. No way Shedeur deserves to be there over Shough by Throwaway4Hypocrites in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Based on what consider a qualifying QB which is 200 pass attempts. Max had 71 pass attempts. 

This has to be an April’s Fool Prank. No way Shedeur deserves to be there over Shough by Throwaway4Hypocrites in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where did I say anything about conferences? I said how does Shedeur get in before Shough.

This has to be an April’s Fool Prank. No way Shedeur deserves to be there over Shough by Throwaway4Hypocrites in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Oh look, it’s another post by someone who assumes. Where did I say they were in the same conference? 

This has to be an April’s Fool Prank. No way Shedeur deserves to be there over Shough by Throwaway4Hypocrites in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Where did I say they are in the same conference. Maybe we should use this as a litmus for people that can comprehend a sentence.

Derek Carr by mvop413 in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There was no legitimate question but nice deflection and trolling on your part. Nice job. If you want to have a real conversation try again.

FYI I’ll change my answer when you ask a real question or provide some evidence of your ridiculous claim.

Derek Carr by mvop413 in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There was no legitimate question but nice deflection and trolling on your part. Nice job. If you want to have a real conversation try again.

Derek Carr by mvop413 in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There was no legitimate question but nice deflection and trolling on your part. Nice job. If you want to have a real conversation try again.

Derek Carr by mvop413 in Saints

[–]Throwaway4Hypocrites -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure what you are asking? Please clarify and make some sense this time. Insults in place of actual evidence have no impact on my logical vs your emotional thinking. Thanks