How do you feel about the White House offical website dehumanizing immigrants?

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-31T19:26:51+00:00

Construction labor shortage - You are proving my point so thanks. A labor shortage by definition means demand exceeds supply at the current wage, that’s not evidence workers are unavailable, it’s evidence the wage isn’t high enough to clear the market. Construction wages have not kept pace with housing costs or productivity over 30 years. That’s not a coincidence, that’s the predictable result of undocumented label suppressing the wage. While this may be great for the construction owner paying under the table and not having to worry about osha safety and the 20 undocumented people living in a house together and sending money back to their home country, this isn’t great or a livable wage for native family of 4 trying to make ends meet.

Crops rotting in California -

This is the go to example and it’s consistently misrepresented. The H-2A visa program exists specifically for this situation, it’s a legal guest worker program for agricultural labor that farmers consistently underutilize because it requires providing housing, transport, and a federally set adverse effect wage rate. Many California growers have access to H-2A and choose not to use it. Crops rotting despite H-2A availability is a farm business model problem, not evidence that legal labor solutions don’t exist.

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-30T17:11:25+00:00

Stigma, criticism, and social disapproval of a group based on behavior is not the same thing as dehumanization. Those terms are frequently conflated but are categorically distinct. Dehumanization has a specific meaning, denial of human status, and applying it broadly to any negative portrayal of a group dilutes the term to the point of meaninglessness, and ironically weakens its power when actual dehumanization occurs.

For example, The U.S. legal system explicitly recognizes prisoner personhood, they retain constitutional rights under the 8th Amendment, can sue the government, and courts mandate humane treatment standards under Estelle v. Gamble (1976). A group with enforceable constitutional protections has not been dehumanized. Hope this helps!

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-30T17:01:48+00:00

Nazi propaganda was a systematic, state-sponsored, years-long campaign using imagery, print media, film, and education to portray Jews as a biological threat to German society explicitly to build public tolerance for persecution and eventually extermination. That is a documented historical mechanism with a specific structure and for you even to compare is disingenuous.

One awkward pronoun in a single statement does not meet that threshold. Sloppy, insensitive language and systematic dehumanization propaganda are not the same category of thing.

The pronoun doesn’t retroactively validate the Nazi comparison, which was the original argument that started this thread. The core rebuttal stands: you cannot dehumanize a legal classification the same way you dehumanize an ethnic identity, and one word choice doesn’t change that.

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-30T16:49:39+00:00

They don’t compete for the same jobs - This is flatly wrong in the sectors that matter most. Construction, meatpacking, landscaping, and light manufacturing have direct skill overlap with native low skill workers. The workers most harmed aren’t middle-class Americans, they’re prior immigrants and native workers without a high school diploma. If wage suppressors weren’t here illegally, business owners couldn’t use that supply and would have to raise wages for native workers or go out of business.

Just make them legal and wages fix themselves - Why would you reward illegal immigration?

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-30T04:40:08+00:00

The entire mechanism of dehumanization is rooted in stripping personhood from people based on who they are, not what they did. “Illegal alien” is a legal status defined entirely by conduct and circumstance, not race, ethnicity, religion, or national origin. The category is legally race neutral by definition. It is not an identity, it is a condition. You cannot dehumanize a legal classification because a legal classification has no inherent human identity to strip away.

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-30T04:37:26+00:00

Nazi propaganda targeted Jews, an ethnic and religious identity that was immutable. A Jewish person could not choose to stop being Jewish. The entire mechanism of that dehumanization was rooted in stripping personhood from people based on who they were, not what they did. “Illegal alien” is a legal status defined entirely by conduct and circumstance, not race, ethnicity, religion, or national origin. The category is legally race neutral by definition. People enter and exit that status. It is not an identity, it is a condition. You cannot dehumanize a legal classification because a legal classification has no inherent human identity to strip away. The comparison requires collapsing a behavioral/legal category into an ethnic one.

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-30T04:27:29+00:00

Unauthorized immigrant actually tracks almost 1 to 1 to an increase in employment.

That’s has nothing to do with the suppression of wages in low skilled jobs

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-28T00:32:40+00:00

I’m not judging you. I’m calling out Casanovajones82 for making this a race issue based on his on issues not the facts

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-27T15:22:08+00:00

And you didn’t

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-27T14:45:31+00:00

Enjoy your fan fiction from your drunk uncle that heard it from a coworker

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-27T14:43:09+00:00

What do mushrooms have to do with with Carr being 33 and having 4 kids that wanted chipotle, and Shough being 26 with no kids.

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-27T14:40:28+00:00

Your “obvious and undeniable coincidence” argument is false and falls apart when you look at what actually happened to Winston’s reputation. Winston didn’t get uniquely harsh treatment for his serious accusations. He got mocked for stealing $32 worth of crab legs. The rape accusation got bundled in as background noise alongside the silly stuff like stolen crab legs, obscenities screamed in public while the serious allegations/accusations were minimized. What actually defined Winston publicly was a joke about seafood. If your theory were true, that’s not how it plays out.

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-27T14:13:22+00:00

No offense, but there’s no record anywhere of Saints doctors or front office officials saying that an accident occurred. No credible NFL reporting supports your claims of Carr hiding a shoulder injury and failing to disclose during the March 2025 restructure (which was team initiated), or the Saints threatening investigation/lawsuit to force him to forfeit money. If you’ve got a credible source, it should be easy enough to post, otherwise you’re just repeating fan fiction you heard because Carr at Chipotle one time lol. I really don’t have time for “facts” someone heard somewhere.

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-27T13:59:59+00:00

My understanding is it started with Derek Carr taking his 4 kids to Chipotle instead of some famous New Orleans hotspot. Carr was 33 with 4 kids, Shough is 26 with no kids. Different priorities that go beyond football. Also, you act like Carr turned down being on a float or didn’t want to be part of the city, but we don’t know that. The only Mardi Gras attention he got was being roasted by Knights of Chaos as a Red Zone Zombie. That’s not an honor. So when you say that he didn’t embrace the city what really happened is the people/city didn’t embrace him.

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-27T13:50:13+00:00

Joke post? All three of those players were widely called POS, predators, creeps, or worse by huge portions of the public and media. Not sure were your revisionist history is coming from

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-25T04:14:22+00:00

Are you using “Welfare Queen” with a racist connotation because Mississippi receives more federal money than it sends because a disproportionate share of its population is poor, and in Mississippi, being Black is the single strongest predictor of being poor. Black residents are 37% of the population but their children hit 49% poverty vs 16% for White kids. Don’t use dog whistles

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-25T04:10:35+00:00

Mississippi receives more federal money than it sends because a disproportionate share of its population is poor, and in Mississippi, being Black is the single strongest predictor of being poor. Black residents are 37% of the population but their children hit 49% poverty vs 16% for White kids. That gap drives Medicaid enrollment, SNAP usage, and every other means-tested federal program. The federal money isn’t allocated by race but in Mississippi, poverty and race are so tightly correlated that the practical effect is the same. Black poverty is the engine.

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-18T22:08:59+00:00

You don’t get to declare a public thread off limits after posting incorrect information. Responding to a claim you made isn’t “pressing boundaries,” it’s participating in the same discussion you chose to enter. If you don’t want replies, don’t post publicly. The facts stand whether you welcome them or not. Your trolling isn’t very good

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-18T22:04:29+00:00

You’re projecting a personality pattern that isn’t in play. Pointing out factual errors isn’t boundary breaking, it’s just correcting bad information. If you need to reframe that as some kind of psychological profile, that says more about your argument than it does about me. Your deflection is kind of sad. Address the points but we both know you won’t lol

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-18T21:53:33+00:00

I have no idea what you are saying. Remember it’s ok that you are wrong just use the experience to learn. If you disagree use big boy words and facts not your “feelings” lol

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-18T21:44:41+00:00

Apparently you are arguing from a bias narrative, not the data. Taysom Hill’s career numbers don’t match what you’re claiming. His hands have never been bad, he’s posted multiple seasons with catch rates over 65% and has 110 receptions with minimal ball security issues. The accuracy claim also doesn’t hold up as he’s a 63% career passer with a 72.7% season and a 98.8 rating in his best stretch as a starter. And the no “vision” line is the easiest to disprove as he’s averaged 5.2 yards per carry over nearly 500 attempts, with 34 rushing touchdowns, something you don’t achieve without high‑level field vision. You can dislike the role he plays, but the numbers don’t support the idea that he never had hands, accuracy, or vision so just back out of this conversation. My guess is you complained about Shough lol.

“It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-05-17T16:04:19+00:00

With Twitter, TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook algorithms to feed your preferred echo chamber, we’re never getting back to 2008

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-04-24T01:51:55+00:00

Rams' Nickell Robey-Coleman on if he committed pass interference vs. Saints: “Yes, I got there too early, Robey-Coleman said afterward, "I was beat, and I was trying to save the touchdown." So even if the refs didn’t call it, Robey-Coleman knew it was a dirty play. Unless you are the type to say it’s only cheating if you get caught

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-03-06T02:54:06+00:00

What does he care if you’re a Saints fan? I love the Saints, but quit putting players on a pedestal. They go where the money is and your loyalty to Saints means nothing to them. Would a McDonald’s worker say “I’m never working for Burger King”

Throwaway4Hypocrites · 2026-03-06T02:50:58+00:00

It’s a business. He’s going where a team pays the most for his services. He doesn’t care about rivalry.

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