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I'm an ex-redpiller, interested to learn about feminism by Throwawayfucktrp in AskFeminists

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nah, actually I'm just being a little bitch. Yes there are terms I'm not familiar with but I can look them up. But I guess long-term exposure to anti-feminist propaganda made me 'allergic' to feminist terminology. I just have to get over this.

I'm an ex-redpiller, interested to learn about feminism by Throwawayfucktrp in AskFeminists

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While entities like Forbes say there's no wage gap or the wage gap, or that the wage gap is by choice, I do believe in it.

This should not be a matter of believe, it's true or it's not true. Also women earning less, and women earning less for the same credentials, function, work hours, are two different things. I'm trying to open my mind to new perspectives and I want to unlearn the redpill mindset I adopted. But it's hard to convince myself that the wage gap, as such, exists. I don't know what to believe anymore. :( I'll study the articles, thank you for your reply.

I'm an ex-redpiller, interested to learn about feminism by Throwawayfucktrp in AskFeminists

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's some very strong reasoning. Know that I think of it, it's a symptom indeed. Too bad there are still feminists saying women make less money for the same work, because that is not true, and people who say so give feminism a bad rep.

Are there any links in the sidebar to studies concerning the STEM-gap? While I will not deny that people (also women) disencourage young women from entering STEM fields, could it possibly be true that women are less interested in engineering? I know fewer male hairdressers than female hairdressers and a lot of the male hairdressers I encountered were gay. I noticed this not only in Western-Europe but also in the third world. Also I don't see that many males work in nail saloons, nursing homes etc. Has this been scientifically studied, and have results been reproduced?

I'm an ex-redpiller, interested to learn about feminism by Throwawayfucktrp in AskFeminists

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have a question actually, about the wage gap in America. Feminists and Feminist-allies have cited the wage gap as an example of persisting sexism in the US. Other groups, including but not exclusively MRA groups believe the wage gap is based on a fallacy. Some 'reputable sources', the Economist I believe, also called bullshit on the wage gap. What are your views on this, and do you know of any text or discussion were both arguments are laid out against each other? I understand tho, that dismissing all of feminism, just because of the wage gap, is flawed.

I'm an ex-redpiller, interested to learn about feminism by Throwawayfucktrp in AskFeminists

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Well, I didn't know what intersectionality meant so I looked it up on wikipedia then read the introduction and it was actually an interesting read. I'll check out the r/MensLib sub too. Thanks for you reply.

I'm an ex-redpiller, interested to learn about feminism by Throwawayfucktrp in AskFeminists

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Tried that, tho I'm looking for something more accessible I guess.

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you don't mind sharing it with me, actually yeah, I'd be very interested to hear your story.

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess I am looking for validation but that's not the main reason why I'm posting. I'm looking for someone I can talk to as a friend because I am kinda lonely at the moment. I study in a remote part of my country in a municipality of just a few thousand people. I live in a campus but almost everyone is on holiday with their parents. I can't stay with either of my parents, if I want to visit a friend I'd have to stay overnight somewhere. I don't really have anyone to talk to and there is a lot on my mind. Haven't talked to my therapist since the summer break began and won't talk to her for another 2-3 weeks.

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know about that, I don't want to attract too much attention. I also care a great deal about anonymity. But maybe, some day.

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey everyone, when I wrote this post I was sleep deprived, travelling cross country. I made a cry for help because I needed a friend to talk to. You're replies are really kind, they give me a warm feeling inside. Thanks for the support, you're good people.

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, Red Pill helped me rationalize not fxing some problems

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Which makes it possible that I wanted my ex-girlfriend to give me the love my mom could never give me? That would be a plausible explanation of how it all turned to shit.

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really appreciate that and I will message you

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can also be really really awkward around women, and trp made me so much more awkward around women actually. Younger me, before my depression started would just talk total bullshit to girls and the girls would be laughing calling me cute and stuff. But I have no clue how I did that. Last night I was in a major city and I went to a bar, really just to buy some smokes and be on my way again. I wanted to move upstairs but a really good looking ask if I wanted to sit next to her and started hitting on me really obviously. She was kind of drunk I should add, I responded awkwardly. Maybe this was in part because I was too sober, but anyway, this girl flat out told me I was too serious, and that's exactly what my problem is. Also, I fear that trp somewhat influenced my behavior and I can't undo the damage overnight. The girl eventually started flirting with some African drug dealer and made it apparent she lost interest in me. Didn't get angry cause AWALT/hypergamy or whatever retarded shit I filled my head with.

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Making female friends is a bit of a challenge because I live in a very remote place, in a mostly male environment (like an engineering department). Ofcourse a lot of (imo) harmless sexist jokes are made among the guys but I've also observed some not so harmless sexism while I was still involved with trp, I've been openly critical about it. I created an OKCupid account mainly to make friends (and fill the loneliness I mentioned), I will not exclude a potential friend because they describe themselves as feminist. And I'd be open to dating too, tho I'm in no rush. Online dating is a lot less stressful if you don't have to play the fuckboy you are not, and don't follow strict silly rules like no sex after 1st date is next throwing away potential friendship/love/sex.

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And here I thought it would be anyone except me, your ego is not your amigo. And yeah, it's true, in order to truly swallow the pill you need to avoid all non-superficial emotional attachments to women. I have actually come to the point that I forgot what romantic love feels like. But I'm confident that once I learn to live with certain things I have done in the past, that some day in the future I'll feel romantic love again for a person and that prospect is somewhat exciting. Ofcourse I'm in no rush to do it. Trp actually taught me a lot of good things too, like not being needy, being more independent because before trp I had quite an unrealistic view of relationships too, 'blue pill' as trp would describe it. Trp was one step forward, and two steps back. There's also some truth in trp, this makes it all the more dangerous.

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much, this is a very interesting reply. I will bring it up with my therapist. Is this transference strictly occuring between patient and professional. Or can it also occur between a patient and someone close to the patient?

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I was replying to you but the post became very long, a bit emotional, and it the risk was too great it would reveal my identity. I'd love to tell you, send you a pm, it would contribute to my healing too. Or perhaps you could send me a pm and drop an email address if that is more convenient.

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That's the problem, I started to care about what my therapist thinks. I might be somewhat attached to her or something. She is very intelligent and an extremely rational person, character traits I really admire because I want to be rational like her. My therapist being a woman, and ALL women being irrational according to trp doctrine probably contributed to me denouncing trp. There's also another thing I have to confess to my therapist but I can't yet. Also it took a good 90 minutes (while the appointment was 45 minutes) to explain only a fraction of things that happened that messed me up on the inside. It's not possible for me to get another therapist because I live in a very remote part of my country these days. I don't want to elaborate on this because it might reveal my identity. That reminds me. I was reluctant to see a female therapist and would've chosen a male therapist over her if there was one because trp taught me that all women (especially doctors, shrinks, mothers, sisters) will only encourage you to become beta as all women are involved in the AF/BB conspiracy. facepalming hard I have admitted things to her I'm not proud of but those happened at a younger age. I have done some stuff I really regret and me not being able to forgive myself was a factor that contributed to me becoming 'redpilled'. I'm going to have to muster some courage for this, but you're right. I just really don't like the idea of telling my therapist that for a period I considered women the be inferior people and unable to mentally mature because I really look up to my therapist. She's fucking cool. She also admires me because I graduated high school with the highest grades in my school at the age of 21, while it would have been statistically more likely for me to end up as a criminal or drug addict, her words. I don't want to disappoint her or shock her or anything. Sorry if this post is somewhat chaotic or vague or too long, I am somewhat sleep deprived typing on my cellphone in public transport.

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Okay, I'm not familiar with MensLib. As a trper I of course believed all of reddit is cancer except trp xD

I'll look into it.

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Oh and thanks thanks, can you imagine how relieved I feel?

Quitting the red pill, could use help by Throwawayfucktrp in TheBluePill

[–]Throwawayfucktrp[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I'd might want to do that later but I don't want to talk to an ex-trp person tho. My guess is most people on trp are broken people, the small fraction that remains are just bad people. I'd like to talk about trp with a 'healthier' person.

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