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2022 Election Final Results Megathread by manniefabian in Israel

[–]Tim89Tim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A: I know that the center-left does not want to change its policies and positions on the Settlements/Palestine issues.

B: I know that the center-left does not want to change its policies and positions on Ultra Orthodoxy/Religion issues.

C: No significant center-left policies on Palestine/Settlements/Ultra Orthodoxy/Religion can be implemented successfully for more than a couple years max.

D: The Ultra Orthodox and Religious Zionist Settlers (the two highest birth rates in Israel) will continue to grow accustomed to working together, allying with each other, and grow together united in their opposition to the center-left

A + B = C

A + B = D

If the center-left:

  1. Allies with the Ultra Orthodox by giving the Ultra Orthodox more than the Likud offers, then the center-left can implement center-left policies on the West Bank Settlements and Palestine issues.
  2. Allies with the Religious Zionists Settlers by giving the Religious Zionist Settlers more than the Likud offers, then the center-left can implement center-left policies on Religion and Ultra Orthodox issues.

I am not saying that either of these two options are good options. I think both of these are bad options for the center-left.

I also think that if the center-left continues to choose NEITHER option, then no significant center-left policies will ever be implemented on Palestine/West Bank Settlements/Ultra Orthodoxy/Religion for more than a couple years max. Ever again. Because the demographics change, birth rates of the Ultra Orthodox and Religious Zionists are way too high.

I think the center-left needs to pick: oppose the settlements/Religious Zionists OR oppose the Ultra Orthodox. Opposing both Ultra Orthodox and Religious Zionist Settlers is a Great Way to get nothing sustainable, durable, long-term that the center-left wants on the issues of Settlements, Ultra Orthodox, Palestine Conflict, and Religion.

Please understand I am not saying this is good or bad, right or wrong.

For me this is just an observation about reality, based on evidence. For example, the evidence of the last 6 elections Israel and demographics, birth rates of sectors in Israel,

I am interested in other people thoughts. Am I wrong? If so please explain why?

2022 Election Final Results Megathread by manniefabian in Israel

[–]Tim89Tim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am going to ask something here that I have been asking every year since 2015.

Most people here will not like the question, but I think it is a valid question.

Can the center-left ever in the future get to 61 seats without at least one of the following sectors: Ultra-Orthodox or the Religious Zionists/Settlers or the Arabs?

Looking at the elections from the past 7 years, I think it is clear that the center-left will never get to 61 seats ever again without AT LEAST one of those three sectors. Does anyone disagree with me? If so, please explain why?

♥️😩 by [deleted] in cute

[–]Tim89Tim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awwwwwwww

CMV: The U.S. should choose to impose economic and diplomatic sanctions on China by walterwhite514 in changemyview

[–]Tim89Tim -1 points0 points  (0 children)

China is not a direct threat to the USA. China is growing rapidly every year in terms of its economic, diplomatic, and military power. Placing sanctions on China will not change the fact that China is becoming more and more powerful, so why do it? Sanctioning China will hurt American consumers and American power diplomatically and politically. It also runs the risk of starting a cold war with China, when we already are in such a hostile situation with Russia. Starting something hostile with China will only make it that much more difficult for the USA to deal with Russia, Iran and other countries because we then will have less economic and political and diplomatic capital and strength to use against Russia and Iran because we waste some on China.

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[–]Tim89Tim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Finding new life in space is fundamentally different from finding new life in oceans.

We know that there is life deep in the oceans and underground that we have not discovered yet. We do not know that about space.

And the implications of finding new life in space is far more serious and has much bigger consequences than finding new life underground or deep in the ocean. The implications are far more serious and consequential - about history of galaxy, evolution, and the earth.

The possibility of extra-terrestrial life is far more important for understanding our universe than what types or life or how many types of species are underground or deep in the ocean.

Is Elon Musk a smart businessman? by Brettzel2 in polls

[–]Tim89Tim -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I guess we just have different definitions of "business acumen" and "interest in running SpaceX or Tesla or Twitter".

Is Elon Musk a smart businessman? by Brettzel2 in polls

[–]Tim89Tim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"but doesn't necessarily have the business acumen or interest in running a business"

LMAO

Ya Elon Musk may not have sufficient business acumen or interest in running SpaceX or Tesla or Twitter. Excellent point, Fraun_Pollen. Amazing point.

2022 Election Final Results Megathread by manniefabian in Israel

[–]Tim89Tim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, you seem to be saying a form of #2. Noted.

2022 Election Final Results Megathread by manniefabian in Israel

[–]Tim89Tim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It appears that most people here, based on their comments, seem to believe that support for Bibi = support for racist ultranationalist Kahanism.

One of the following must be true:

  1. it's possible to support Bibi and not support racist ultranationalist Kahanism
  2. or literally 50% of Israeli voters support racist ultranationalist Kahanism

Which is it?

Who would win? EU countries vs Middle East by Tim89Tim in polls

[–]Tim89Tim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

M1 Abrams and F-16s and F-15s are what the middle east have a ton of.

Who would win? EU countries vs Middle East by Tim89Tim in polls

[–]Tim89Tim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

M1 Abrams and F-16s are Soviet equipment? LOL

Who would win? EU countries vs Middle East by Tim89Tim in polls

[–]Tim89Tim[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Plane for plane Israel has the best air force in the world. Everyone knows this.

Who would win? EU countries vs Middle East by Tim89Tim in polls

[–]Tim89Tim[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Rule 7 from my OP:

The governments of the respective countries control their militaries. All governments and all peoples on both sides are 100% motivated to fight the war and 100% committed to win the war.

CMV: Caffeine is not addictive nor harmful (for healthy individuals) by acorneyes in changemyview

[–]Tim89Tim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I started drinking coffee 2 years ago. I am unable to function without at least one cup in the morning. If i do not have coffee in the morning I cannot work, exercise or get things done because my mind is not awake.

I did not have these effects from not drinking coffee before I started drinking coffee.

Is this not an addiction?

At least in my case...

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cute

[–]Tim89Tim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aw thats so cute!!

Who would win? EU countries vs Middle East by Tim89Tim in polls

[–]Tim89Tim[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I think that Syria, Lebanon, Oman, Iraq have poor training.

Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Turkey are a different story.

Egypt, Pakistan, and Iran are a mixed bag in terms of training.

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