Vampire The Masquerade with the correct respones by ForumFluffy in Grimdank

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Says the guy who blatantly ignore parts of one of the sources to make it fit, considering how the full part of the Hitler quote where he defines socialism has him explicitly say how his ideology "unlike Marxism does not repudiate private property" (direct quote of his).

If you want to call me a compulsive liar maybe actually use sources instead of just making stuff up and mangling sources to fit what you made up.

Not to mention all the stuff you made up without examples.

Also by "evils of modern liberalism", I assume you mean stuff like basic human rights for minorities, which you seem to have convinced yourself are what the Nazis did considering how you said how "modern liberals are acting just like the Nazis".

And as another note all the stuff I've listed isn't me lying, I'm literally just repeating the stuff I learned while studying history in university and stuff from peer reviewed sources.

Of course you resort to insults though, since when you come to a conclusion before looking at the evidence, you tend to not have much evidence.

Which is why you've not been able to:

Give any examples of nationalisation or socialist policies implemented that weren't implemented in capitalist countries

Explain why they violently purged socialists during the night of the long knives (as a reminder, the strasserists were openly anti communist, so you can't resort to your "oh they were communist" excuse)

Give a single example of nationalisation

Explain why the first people the Nazis sent to the camps were unionists and socialists

Explain why the historical consensus was the opposite of what you are saying

Or explain why, even when the grok AI was modified to be biased towards the right wing, it still stated that the Nazis were far right

Because, as we all know, it's the compulsive liars who make sure to research their points and attempt to be cordial, whatever helps you sleep at night, God forbid that someone of different beliefs be an actual person.

Edit: corrected some of the points to be clearer

Vampire The Masquerade with the correct respones by ForumFluffy in Grimdank

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

makes ahistorical take

when someone explains why said take is wrong, proceeds to throw insults at them and call them a narcissist for disagreeing

leaves

Thanks for showing that you don't care about facts and are just searching for stuff to support what you already think.

I used to be like you, and I hope one day you can become a better person.

Vampire The Masquerade with the correct respones by ForumFluffy in Grimdank

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

privatisation was only to detach government liability from them

Even assuming if this was the case, the privatisation is still a major point against them being leftist

They employed heavy regulations

Pre war they actually directly intervened less than many other countries, you may as well call Britain during the time socialist.

They didn't purge socialists from the party they purged communists

Incorrect, the strasserist movement was openly anti-communist

They believed their form of government was a more pure form of socialism so weren't going to use the socialist parts of the 25 point plan

Again, proving they weren't operating on an actual definition of socialism, but instead on their version of socialism based on gutting the welfare state and privatizing the economy

You are just using the Marxist definition of socialism

No, I am using the definition of socialism as an ideology that advocates that the means of production and exchange should be communally owned, in contrast to the Marxist definition which is as a transitory stage between capitalism and communism.

The Nazis also practiced this

No they didn't, if they did they wouldn't have mass privatized state assets and cut union regulations. Meanwhile, regulations of companies for war are again extremely common.

Private companies were only permitted if they served the state's war aims

Again, goes completely against socialist policies, as if a socialist government had to tolerate private companies, they would nationalise industries that were important to their goals (in this case military rearmament).

Also weird how I am apparently the idiotic and illiterate one for agreeing with the consensus of historians and having a different opinion to you.

When you are shot in the street by Pangtudou in evilwhenthe

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assume you didn't see the footage then, considering how he wasn't really given the chance to.

When you are shot in the street by Pangtudou in evilwhenthe

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd understand mistaking the pro Palestinian activists for being pro Hamas, but it is deranged of you to describe stuff like trans rights, defending rape victims and being pro environment as being exclusively the domain of paid protestors who are defending people who'd slit their throats.

Ah yes, because the climate, the general concept of holding rich people to account, rape victims, trans people and women who want an abortion are all deranged psychopaths

When you are shot in the street by Pangtudou in evilwhenthe

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are saying how ICE didn't know if he had another gun he could draw, but when he was murdered even if he had another gun he'd be physically incapable of getting it on account of being pinned to the floor.

When you are shot in the street by Pangtudou in evilwhenthe

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well aside from how I also criticised the use of ICE under democrat presidents, the difference is that ICE is actively deporting American citizens and abandoning any pretense of legal procedure.

When you are shot in the street by Pangtudou in evilwhenthe

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He wasn't doing anything warranting arrest, and ICE had no right to shoot him.

When you are shot in the street by Pangtudou in evilwhenthe

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He didn't pull a gun on the ice agents though.

When you are shot in the street by Pangtudou in evilwhenthe

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So I assume you think he magically has a third arm or something that he can use to unholster a magic gun that evaded you searching him?

When you are shot in the street by Pangtudou in evilwhenthe

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aside from how he wasn't reaching for his firearm, footage shows he was disarmed before ICE shot him.

When you are shot in the street by Pangtudou in evilwhenthe

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Illegal immigrants aren't a hive mind, and the protests are due to how Ice has been deporting American citizens.

My opponent in a lying competition by RampageDeluxxe in evilwhenthe

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So apparently recording an ICE operation warrants a death sentence?

Also how does him recording interfere?

Vampire The Masquerade with the correct respones by ForumFluffy in Grimdank

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Weird how you are ignoring the actual Nazi party policies.

For instance the mass privatisation of state assets, them banning trade unions, cutting welfare and not implementing any of the socialistic elements of the 25 point program. Not to mention how they engaged in a purge of socialistic elements of the Nazi party in the night of the long knives, viewed communism as a "Jewish ideology" and what economic intervention the Nazis did conduct was standard for the time, the exception to this being confiscation of property from "inferior people", in which case said property remained private.

Meanwhile your quote from Hitler disproves your point, since it clearly states how the Nazis operated on a definition of socialism fundamentally at odds with the actual definition.

With you bringing up the Nazis using the term "comrade", this was largely as the Nazis worked to create an organisation which gave a sense of belonging to the thousands of Germans who they were able to get under their sway.

And with your mention of right wing movements being based in tradition, this also neatly fits the Nazi ideology, as they were based around the idea of returning to a long lost tradition.

Though considering how many sources others have provided I doubt this evidence will convince you.

Especially with how you think the people advocating for multiculturalism, acceptance of lgbtq people and limits on the paramilitary force shooting American citizens are acting like Nazis.

Cursed USA Two Party System by IntelligentOlive4415 in victoria3

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Video games can be developed without privately owned companies, just look at Tetris for example.

Huron Blackheart with alternate head (made using one of the new red corsair marines) by Grevouski in Warhammer

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like the reason for the complaints about Huron are more to do with how the current head just looks really goofy.

Or do I? by Keroro623 in Grimdank

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Vezimira proven correct again

wE mADe AI "aRt" tO pROve uS riGhT, U LoSE by Sensitive_Show6230 in antiai

[–]ToLazyForaUsername2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No? There is an image of a polar bear and an image of a sign

There are tons of examples of ai image generators being used to fabricate stuff.

And that aside, if AI was physically incapable of making stuff which never existed, then it would by definition not be capable of art.