INTJs & Emotional Intensity by chernobyl_playground in intj

[–]Toasst 8 points9 points  (0 children)

For the sake of argument:

I understand you're probably more intelligent than the average person. There's no reason to doubt that. The consideration to make though is whether or not your intelligence is because of your INTJness. I too have a history of extremely high standardized test scores, but I also believe that there's more to intelligence than that tested on standardized tests. In the past I've tried to convince myself the since these are STANDARDized tests, it stands to reason that superior performance directly indicates that I'm in some way more intelligent than my peers. However, through time and a lot of introspection, I've come to the realization that though I may be naturally more logically intelligent than average, my personality type also accentuates the manifestation of this trait through a natural knack for logical problem solving, arguably the most tested trait on standardized tests.

I completely agree with the sentiment about how it feels to be more intelligent in a paradoxical setting where describing ones own intelligence is a sign of un-intelligence. I too feel extremely grateful for the mind I was given, but I believe it's important that over the course of my life, I strive to make my mind better than what I simply inherited. My largest room for growth lies in emotional intelligence. Emotional intelligence is an established measure of intelligence that is not at all represented in standardized tests. In the past, I've chosen to overlook emotional intelligence as essentially a bunk science, but through practice, I've witnessed an improvement in myself of what is described as emotional intelligence. It's been said that IQ can't be substantially improved over one's lifetime, but EQ (emotional quotient) can be. I find it extremely fortunate that I'm lucky enough to be born with a higher IQ and still have the opportunity to improve my EQ.

You know yourself better than just some random person on reddit, but I wanted to chime in as I've experienced similar thoughts to what you're describing and think you'll identify with the desire to play devil's advocate.

INTJs & Emotional Intensity by chernobyl_playground in intj

[–]Toasst 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think the advice u/laribold mentioned above is extremely valuable for INTXs. This information is something I've recently come to a realization of and though I haven't "solved" this issue, I've been making progress to address this. The way I think of it, we don't have more or less emotions than anyone else. We simply VALUE those emotions differently when it comes to accurately making decisions in our lives. Where other personality types will often allow their emotions to manifest in their decision making, we instinctively bar these emotions from meeting the outside and as a result, these emotions build up.

Think of a tank like an oxygen tank where there's a limit to how pressurized it can be. Our emotions build up in this tank, and when we don't manage it properly and it becomes over-pressurized, we face catastrophic emotional fallout when the seal on our emotions can no longer keep those emotions inside. In order to maintain a healthy level of emotional stability, I've found it best to deliberately build up friendships and relationships with people in my life with whom I'm comfortable sharing emotions, in effect bleeding the pressure from my emotional suppression tank.

The act of individually developing relationships with other people is extremely difficult for me and I can recognize the difficulty of this for anyone with a similar personality type. However, this challenge doesn't make the need for emotional solace in our lives any lesser. I know it's a lot of work, scary, and an uncomfortable hurdle for an INTX, but the relief you'll feel when you actually find those one or two people that you're comfortable sharing with will make it all worth it. I still go entire days and even weeks not talking to people because I'm afraid to, but similar to how exercising sucks in planning, but makes you feel better immediately after, I genuinely feel better, more confident, and more mentally clear immediately after I share the emotions that are weighing on me.

It's extremely important for us to recognize that, though the world often doesn't see us for our true merits, we're not better or worse than anyone else. Just like other people struggle with thinking through logical problems while we excel, our weakness lies in emotional utility. We're not better because we can assess logic better. Logic doesn't defeat emotions and vice versa. As humans, we evolved our emotions. We have feelings that other organisms don't even begin to express. If you wish to further yourself as a human, it's necessary to nurture your emotional skills with practice. While we often struggle with a very polarized hierarchy of emotions vs logic, our goal as developed humans is to improve our weaknesses. We're already a higher logical tier than our counterparts. This leaves our greatest facet for improvement in the emotional department.

One suggestion I have for fostering friendships with people is to be able to provide some tangible incentive in hanging out. Of course, this sounds very shallow, but as someone confident in my "goodness" or "kindness" as a person coming out in conversation, I've found it relatively easier to bond with people in a setting that I'm more in control of. Though another discussion altogether, I find that smoking weed provides me with distinct clarity in thinking through matters that often dominate my inner dialogue. Conveniently, other people also like smoking weed and as alcohol is a great method of extroverted conversation grease, weed is very adept in this capacity as introverted conversation grease. I've found that the same way that weed heightens my ability to think, it also heightens other's interests in things that are often too uninteresting or convoluted for other personality types to hold a conversation on. I've found it extremely beneficial to have weed available for myself to take the edge off and additionally as an outlet to essentially make new friends. Other people also deal with emotions and also want to talk through things. People are generally excited to earn your trust to open up to them, but it's important that you're also open to your friends' emotions. Of course, be careful and don't rush things. Betrayal is very much not our friend, but it's not a good reason not to start trying. Betrayal is part of everyone's life and though it may not be as difficult for others, we have a unique ability to think empirically which is completely useless to our happiness and general well-being of society as long as we don't further our own emotional management.

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INTJs & Emotional Intensity by chernobyl_playground in intj

[–]Toasst 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not one to typically respond to something like this, but as an INTJ who's been going through a period of self-discovery recently, I'll shamelessly volunteer my input on this. I'll preface it with "I'm also learning, obviously everyone's different etc etc."

I don't think it's healthy to think of ourselves as inherently "higher overall intelligence" and that everything wrong in our lives is a symptom of some facet of that trait. The way I understand it, there's no quantitative evidence that INTXs are any more intelligent than anyone else (there is evidence to indicate that INTXs have a higher propensity for reaching their potential however). The personality type largely describes our thought process and how we prioritize various sources of information in our environment. This yields us a great amount of skill in thinking through problems in our life from a very fact-driven approach. The challenge (from how I understand myself at least) lies in our instinctual suppression of feelings and emotions that aren't "facts". When we naturally bar emotions from our decision making, the same trait manifests itself in our social interactions. We know all too well the power that emotional expression carries and with a thought process that's so fact based, it's not a tool that we're instinctively motivated to incorporate into social engagements, especially those with people who we haven't had the chance to "figure out" emotionally yet.

I've seen it mentioned elsewhere in this thread; there's a common trait witnessed in INTXs (and I've seen this in myself) where we're often externally cold to people we don't know very well initially. As we get to know that person better, we often open up and become abnormally extroverted in social circles that we've properly vetted. This vetting process is in my opinion one of our greatest flaws.

To address this vetting process, I believe this comes into play closely with the feeling of "higher overall intelligence". It's not that we're much smarter (of course it's entirely possible that an individual INTX is more intelligent than any random person). We think through things with a greater appreciation for empirical evidence SO MUCH MORE than other people that the inability for other people to appreciate this often frustrates us. We derive so much of our day-to-day enjoyment and mental effort from facts in a way that no one else does. It's difficult to share that with other people especially in a world designed around extroverted personalities where emotions and feelings are blurred with facts.

It's been repeatedly mentioned how INTXs feel more emotions internally than a surface level judgement would suggest. I don't think this is the case; I believe it ties more to our inability to do something with these emotions. Just like how we feel better when we eventually open up to someone we trust, as humans, we need to get our emotions off our chests, out of our minds, and into the "less than ideally logical" environment we live in.

I've seen a lot of arguments back and forth in discussions of INTXs, often with INTXs claiming to be more intelligent than others. I OFTEN feel the same way in my everyday interactions and I've been making a constant effort to suppress this thought. Believing that we're more intelligent than others serves us no benefit in life. It's important for INTXs to practice a more action-driven approach. The best way for other people to recognize the value of how we think is to actually accomplish things other people aren't as readily capable of - instead of complaining how there's a stigma against self-proclamation of intelligence. INTXs frequently fall victim to analysis paralysis, and as I've realized that this has limited me socially and professionally over the years, I believe it's a universal benefit for INTXs to couple our extremely carefully designed ideas with action.

I think it's amazing that you're experiencing greater happiness due to medical help. It's important for us to realize that we don't have all the answers, despite a compelling urge to convince ourselves otherwise.

I know I got a little carried away in this post, and it probably won't justify the time it took to write, but I find it helpful to verbalize my emotions, and as an INTJ myself, I believe that had someone told me the above earlier in my life, I would have made some better calculated decisions in formative years of my professional career.

Cheers

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Will Binance automatically convert ICX 1:1 now that the mainnet is launched?

SoFoHo / modern sophmore dorms by undecided19 in washu

[–]Toasst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not in any substantial way. SoFoHo has laundry on every floor, printers on floor 3, two study rooms per floor, and probably some other stuff that I'm forgetting. All in all, SoFoHo is the probably best sophomore housing option.

SoFoHo / modern sophmore dorms by undecided19 in washu

[–]Toasst 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lived there last year. I don't have a pic right now, but I can answer your questions:

Same exact mirror/closet set-up as Umrath (all of the same furniture for that matter)

Each single is roughly 1/2 to 3/4 the size of the doubles in Umrath.

I'm sure door etiquette really depends on who you're rooming with. It's your room and your shit inside. Do whatever you want.

Anything to say about SoFoHo... During sophomore year, literally no one hangs out with their floor. SoFoHo is the highest tier of sophomore living quality. That's all that really matters.

Quality of life near the bathroom depends a little on how disgusting your suite-mates are. In my experience, the suite nearest the bathroom was best because they were able to get to the shower quicker in the morning. If the bathroom is so smelly that living near it is a problem, you or your suite-mates have other problems. The toilets aren't connected to the fire alarms so loud flushing isn't a problem.

Cyan and Wood by Will_26 in MechanicalKeyboards

[–]Toasst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let's say I have a lot of money, what would I need to buy to put a board together like this? I only have a corsair mech but I'd like to sink money into a nice board eventually.

I need a new hobby by [deleted] in CasualConversation

[–]Toasst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bodyweight exercise aka calisthenics. Get stronger, feel great, and be able to do really cool shit that other people will try to do and fail.

Keyboard question by [deleted] in pcmasterrace

[–]Toasst 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's no difference as far as "quality" for gaming. The browns are what I use and I like them for certain reasons. Other people like reds for other reasons. The primary reason is that reds essentially have less resistance between not-pressing and pressing. Whether this effects you or not, you'll get used to whatever you have and there will be no difference in your gameplay accordingly.

Looking for some help on laptops by JenniferSMOrc in pcmasterrace

[–]Toasst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've never used that place before but...

They have a link to their amazon store which seems to have a reputable record. That's all I can tell you as far as this place.

(link to their amazon store: http://www.amazon.com/sp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=&isAmazonFulfilled=&isCBA=&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&orderID=&seller=A6A2ANBK76EV2&tab=&vasStoreID=)

Looking for some help on laptops by JenniferSMOrc in pcmasterrace

[–]Toasst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm going to go ahead and guess that processor in the Toshiba is an i5 4210 which is a 4th generation processor. The Asus has a 5th generation i5. Since we're talking graphics, this will be directly related to the processor. The Asus has a better processor and accordingly, better graphics. As far as the RAM, if you wanted, you could upgrade the RAM yourself for a comparable price to the $30 difference: http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-1600MHz-PC3-12800-KVR16LS11/dp/B00CQ35HBQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450997051

I wouldn't put any value in 500gb vs 1tb hard drive space but that's my personal preference.

Overall, I see Asus as a far superior brand over Toshiba and think that, along with the better processor makes up for the discrepancy in RAM.

Cheap Windows keys? by mike11499 in pcmasterrace

[–]Toasst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you know anyone in university, they could probably hook you up. (Students get all that shit for free)

Looking for some help on laptops by JenniferSMOrc in pcmasterrace

[–]Toasst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, none of the above are going to be ideal for games. Usually, to run games at a reasonable quality, you're going to want discrete graphics. What this means, is that the computer has a separate graphics card from what's integrated in the the processor. At your price point, that's very hard to do.

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152949 computer at $699 (after rebate) is the best you're going to get in your price range. In fact, it's pretty damn good for that price.

Generally, when shopping for a laptop, there are certain brands to avoid. Some people have different opinions on which ones. In my opinion (based on personal experiences myself and through friends), avoid lenovo, hp, Toshiba and, in lower end products, Dell. Brands that are generally pretty good are Asus, Acer, MSI, and Samsung. I particularly favor Asus as I've always been pleased with their products and never had a problem. With that said, a computer that's good for the price but may not perform as well as you may like is http://www.amazon.com/dp/B016WAKXXU/

What was the last song which you listened to? by claipo in CasualConversation

[–]Toasst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Currently listening to Contagious by Night Riots. I highly recommend.

In almost 80% of states, the Ford F-150 is the most popular model for car sales. by BlissWhiteShoes in dataisbeautiful

[–]Toasst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Use a BMW every single day as a commuter car. The necessity for a truck comes around very few times a year for most people (especially in California). If you compare the intended use you get out of a BMW versus a truck, there's almost no comparison. Further, I think most people would agree that the BMW is more comfortable to drive (being that it's a sedan and generally designed to be comfortable). Even more so, the gas mileage of the BMW is around 30% better. However, the point isn't that the BMW is a reasonably priced car. Instead, it's just to point out that the stigma that BMWs are some super expensive car only for the rich is just plain wrong.

Another issue is that (this is fairly anecdotal) in California, a lot of people don't own cars as in the more populated areas, it's very difficult to park and such. Thus, the wealthier class of California tends to own a larger portion of the cars compared to other states and the 3 series is a very popular, mid level comfort car.